We have eyes too
Can you believe this dumb Fukk? He thought he was being smart too.
We have eyes too
Bad year, my ass. The dude was playing with a great coach, an all time great defender, a GOAT shooter, and one of the best SFs of the decade. He was the 4th fukking option for most of the season and, for all of his assists, the offense got WORSE the more he was involved.
Every year that Rondo got more control of the offense, it got WORSE. It was exactly average his first year as an all-star and plummeted to 27 his 3rd year.
Simply put, Rondo isn't as good as most people thought. He has a few good games in the playoffs but look at his overall playoff stats. They're not near the likes of CP3.
The game has evolved. PGs can't get away with being bad shooters because defenses are becoming more complicated and analytics is showing more about players than we thought.
It's no surprise that the best teams in the NBA have huge offensive threats as their primary playmakers. Curry, Kyrie (Or Lebron),Westbrook, etc.
If the guy who controls the offense isn't a scoring threat, it makes it much easier to stifle passes and play to deny rather than play to contain.
Yall keep going by numbers,go by the eye test,and no breh Rondo has had way more than just a FEW good playoff games,nikka damn near averages a double double in EVERY series in the playoffs and almost a triple double in a few,and he's won way more than he's lost in the playoff's.
Im going to continue to feel Rondo is a top PG,now if this play goes on then yeah I'll admit he's been exposed,but Im not about to say a player is trash after ONE bad season when he's accomplished:
NBA Champ
4th all time assist leader in Celtics history
3rd all time steals leader in Celtics history
1st all time APG average in Celtics history
1st all time SPG average in Celtics history
And he's played less games than all the legends before him
4x NBA all-star
2x assist leader
1x steals leader
2x first team all defensive
Triple double king
No breh it dont work like that,to call him overrated based off what has been shown this season is cool,but to say he weak,not a top 15 pg,etc,yall losing yall minds,no matter what his shortcomings are,a weak player will never have a resume like that ever
I'd take a healthy Rondo over a healthy CP3.
Rondo's playoff performances > CP3's playoff performances
CP3 can't even lead a stacked team past the 2nd round of the playoffs. Dude's soft. The Peyton Manning of the NBA. But even Peyton won a ring...
EDIT:
Rondo- 47% career FG
Paul-47.2% career FG
The narrative about CP3 being a better shooter than Rondo needs to stop.
Lmao
The numbers show that he's not that great but just use your eyes!
All-stats don't really matter to me. Kobe was voted as an all-star this year and he played fukking awful.
Rondo was able to gamble in the lanes like crazy because he's a great defender but he had KG to anchor that defense and allowed him to take more chances.
You bring up assists and triple doubles but don't realize that Rondo did those things at the expense of being a good offense. He's a good passer and a good defender but you act like that makes him impact elite.
Rondo is a great passer and a great defender but he's below average offensively. Stats show that the more responsibility he got on offense, the worse the Celtivs got offensively.
But the Celtics still were a very good team,they finished atop of the East most those years and declined due to the big 3 getting older,I really have a hard time agreeing with the things being said about Rondo,dude put up great numbers,got a ring,made the playoffs every year,league leader in assists and steals or top 3,if we go by those numbers yall want to go by then CP3 is the best PG in the league every year,but we all kmow that is not true,Ive never been a numbers guy,I go by what I see,which is why I always felt Cp3 was a great PG but also very overrated.
They were a great team because they had a top tier defense which Rondo certainly contributed to.
He got a ring as the 4th or 5th option on offense and I remember it vividly. Paul Pierce was who the offense ran through, not Rondo. Pierce as the most important offensive piece with KG anchoring the defense. Rondo just needed to protect the ball, make the right passes, and play defense which he did.
Yeah, I'd argue that CP3 is almost always a top 2-3 PG and there isn't a team in the league that wouldn't improve with him on it but it's not because of his stats.
I don't think Westbrook is a better PG than CP3 but I do think that Westbrook has the advantage on CP3 and its not because of stats.
CP3's biggest defensive strength is his ability to predict dribbling moves and tendecies or exploit offenses because of his ability to read ahead.
The Thunder use a very simple offense of isolation with their best players and Westbrook attacks very simply which is explode past you and CP3 simply lacks the athletic ability needed to consistently stop Westbrook.
Westbrook is too physically dominant a matchup for 6'0 Paul with bad knees.
On defense, Westbrook is great at being an on-ball defender but he lacks good awareness and court vision because he's such a ball-hawk which is why teams like GS, Hawks, Spurs, and take advantage of him because they can turn their PG to an off-ball player to take advantage of those lapses. And even if they can take advantage of it, you still got The likes of Barnes guarding Durant which is still a nightmare.
CP3 is the only person the Clippers have who can consistently run an offense so it's hard for them to take advantage of Russ's weaknesses.
It's a matchup issue. The Wizards would be better stated to battle the Thunder than the Clippers but the Clippers would eat the Wizards for breakfast. The Pacers gave the Lebron Heat fits due to size, just like the Grizzlies would have, but a team like Golden State or the Thunder would have gotten destroyed.
Contrary to what you think, I'm not all about stats and I'm a big believer of putting stats into context of watching them play, watching how the offense is run, and comparing the context in how the points were made.
Again, I posted the stats. Are you honestly sitting here and saying that you don't think CP3 wins a ring with the Celtics? You don't think he makes the playoffs in a weak East with a team as good as the Celtics? How do you think any of CP3 teams do if they're playing the likes of the Hawks, Knicks, and so forth instead of the Grizzlies, Spurs, Lakers, and Thunder?
Come on.