What Quarterbacks today would you take over A Prime Mcnabb?

[FTBS]

You're proving to not be very smart. What did Branch and Givens do without Brady? Didn't Branch have Matt Hassleback? You know why there names are there you genius? Because they played in so many damn playoff games. You can't be this slow. I know you don't like Brady but go sit down.

Brady's receivers were so elite that we were throwing endzone passes to linebackers

Actually I have nothing but respect for Thomas but I call it how it is. Were his recievers elite? No. Did they make the plays that he needed them to make? Yes. Marvin Harrison played in a lot of playoff games and is widely regarded as a HOFer and Branch numbers are better. Some guys step up and make plays in the playoffs. Some guys don't. Brady had guys like these when he won SBs. That's not a knock on him. I think Thomas has proven himself to be great on his own. No need to diminish the guys around him to try to make him look even better. If they truly sucked he wouldnt' have been able to win with them becuase they wouldn't have mad the plays that needed to be made.

 

[FTBS]

The second someone says

"Roddy White aint better than anyone McNabb ever had, except TO"

That's subtracting players. Oh McNabb never had a threat, except the one he did.

That's silly business.

I never said he didn't have a threat. My point was that Ryan has had MORE threats for longer and still has 0 playoff wins and a piss poor showing last year to show for it. Very simply if we are gonna hold McNabb's SB loss against him how the fukk are we gonna put a guy with a playoff history like Ryan's over him?

 

[Street Knowledge]

Ryan isn't better then prime Mcnabb

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Ryan isn't better then prime Mcnabb

McNabb was not accurate with the football. He stayed throwin balls in the dirt.

That alone makes Ryan a better passer then him.

 

[unit321]

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LOL, just kidding peeps.

 

[FTBS]

nikka you sound like an idiot. His gut feeling is right. The fact that you're trying to use WRs as an argument to put McNabb anywhere near the same sentence as Tom Brady deserves you being put on mute.
Good players make plays no matter who their QB is. Garcon and Reggie Wayne still put up numbers without Peyton.

There has not been a single Patriots WR that put up numbers without Brady besides Moss. But your biased ass is somehow trying to use the argument that because they caught the ball when Brady read the defense and threw it to them that shows that Brady had more help than McNabb. Do you know how dumb that sounds? If two guys suck but one guy has a QB that is more accurate and reads the defense faster and puts the ball right into his hands, does that prove that he is now a better receiver?

Go sit down. Bad WRs do not make plays when a great QB is no longer throwing them the ball. McNabb made due with average receivers but he was just as mistake prone at times as they were.

Exactly what I am talking about. If you were being logic and looking at facts you would see that I said I would take Brady over a prime McNabb and you would see that you were the one who put Brady and McNabb in the same sentence first and that I merely responded.

For the billionth time I never said those Pats reciever were great or even good I simply said they were better than Pinkston and co. and that they made the plays that Thomas needed them to make while Thras and co. did not. That is all. Not saying Donovan is better. Not saying Brady isnt' great. Just no willing to go so far to say that their recieving corps were equal. nikkas need to stop being so sensitive and insecure.

 

[FTBS]

Sanchez




























LOL, just kidding peeps.

Hey why not? He has a chance at redemption. Apparently that counts more than actual play anyway.

 

[No1]

Actually I have nothing but respect for Thomas but I call it how it is. Were his recievers elite? No. Did they make the plays that he needed them to make? Yes. Marvin Harrison played in a lot of playoff games and is widely regarded as a HOFer and Branch numbers are better. Some guys step up and make plays in the playoffs. Some guys don't. Brady had guys like these when he won SBs. That's not a knock on him. I think Thomas has proven himself to be great on his own. No need to diminish the guys around him to try to make him look even better. If they truly sucked he wouldnt' have been able to win with them becuase they wouldn't have mad the plays that needed to be made.

Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne had no problem showing up in the earlier rounds against bum sqauds and wack defenses, just like Peyton. They were just a soft finesse team that bytched up when the Patriots bullied them or when the Chargers or Steelers bullied them. The Pats receivers showed up because even without Dillon the Patriots were committed to playing about 50-50 run to pass and they called good plays and Brady hit them. The pressure wasn't on the receivers to make every play and since Brady had no favorites, it wasn't like you could key in and bully certain guys. Coming into the SB, perhaps Branch aside, those Patriots WRs weren't playing better than the Eagles WRs at all. Then Donovan got TO back which gave him a clear receiving core advantage. Nope, you can't make this comparison.

The Patriots receivers were tougher than the Eagles receivers, but they were no more talented. Guys like Pinkston may have been punks but McNabb was also inaccurate so there was always the fear of getting laid out. Brady was hitting guys in the hands in stride and giving them the chance to run after the catch and to protect themselves. That's why TO was perfect for Donovan, he wasn't scared to go across the middle and catch everything.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Brady is the definite because he did shyt with average receivers.

Peyton could do it too.


But those are the only QBs in the league right now that can say they've made average receivers look good.

I want to say Eli too, but this strictly based upon what's actually been done. A guy like A-Rod hasn't been in that position yet.

Fair enough with Brady and Manning i can't argue that.

So only 2 you would take given the core mcnabb had in his prime. That should say a lot about Mcnabb.

Gawdgers, i would take as well, his wr's keep getitng hurt and he still putting up numbers. Jennings and Nelson get hurt he still throws for 4 scores in a game. Amazing.

 

[Black Ball]

Can't believe so many people wouldn't take Big Ben over McNabb. McNabb was always shakey with the accuracy & was a headtrip over when to take off and run.

Dude is just below HOF level, he aint getting in.

 

[Rapmastermind]

TOTAL WINS IN NFL HISTORY (REGULAR SEASON + PLAYOFFS)


1 Brett Favre 186 112 0 + 13 11= 199-123
2 John Elway 148 82 1 + 14 7 = 162-89-1
3 Dan Marino 147 93 0 + 8 10 = 155-103
4 Peyton Manning 142 67 0 + 9 10 = 151-77
5 Tom Brady 124 34 0 + 16 6 = 140-40
6 Joe Montana 117 47 0 + 16 7 = 133-54
7 Fran Tarkenton 124 109 6 + 6 5 = 130-114-6
8 Johnny Unitas 118 64 4 + 6 2 = 124-66-4
9 Terry Bradshaw 107 51 0 + 14 5 =121-56
10 Jim Kelly 101 59 0 + 9 8 = 110-67
11 Donovan McNabb 98 62 1 + 9 7 =107-69-1


Men Lie, Women Lie, Numbers don't. Donovan is one of the most winningest QB EVER.

 

[Rapmastermind]

McNabb was not accurate with the football. He stayed throwin balls in the dirt.

That alone makes Ryan a better passer then him.

LOL, Ryan is not better than Donovan. Ryan can't even win a damn playoff game. And I'd take a dirt ball over all the INT's that QB's throw. Mcnabb has one of the lowest INT's ratios in NFL HISTORY.

 

[klientel]

McNabb was not accurate with the football. He stayed throwin balls in the dirt.

That alone makes Ryan a better passer then him.

When I think of McNabb thats pretty much all I think about. Them bytches be skipping in the dirt like 4 yards in front of the WR

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Luck, Tannehill, RG

 

[No1]

Fair enough with Brady and Manning i can't argue that.

So only 2 you would take given the core mcnabb had in his prime. That should say a lot about Mcnabb.

Gawdgers, i would take as well, his wr's keep getitng hurt and he still putting up numbers. Jennings and Nelson get hurt he still throws for 4 scores in a game. Amazing.

I've always vouched for Donovan. He threw for four scores in that game on a 50% completion rate, but he is beasting. Can't knock his game at all, the Cardinals do have a legit defense.

But again, I didn't give him the nod because a few games vs. an entire season of doing it. I didn't start giving that nod to Peyton until he started making guys like Tamme look nice.