What Quarterbacks today would you take over A Prime Mcnabb?

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Brady is the definite because he did shyt with average receivers.

Peyton could do it too.


But those are the only QBs in the league right now that can say they've made average receivers look good.

I want to say Eli too, but this strictly based upon what's actually been done. A guy like A-Rod hasn't been in that position yet.

This is bullshyt that needs to stop. All you have to do is look through the NFL postseason record books and see how many Pats WR names you see. They weren't HOFers by any means but those guys made plays. If Thrash and Co. made some of the plays that Branch, Givens, Brown and co. made McNabb would have a ring or two. If recievers aren't good they aren't good and a Qb isn't gonna be able to do shyt about it.
 

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People forget Roddy White wasn't shyt until Matt got there.

White was struggling with Vick as the QB. White's best years popped up when Ryan was a Falcon

The Falcons passing game wasn't shyt til Ryan got there. There were all about running DVD before Vick got locked up. Not a very valid comparison. Would you disagree with the notion that White is better than every reciever McNabb ever had save TO?
 

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This is bullshyt that needs to stop. All you have to do is look through the NFL postseason record books and see how many Pats WR names you see. They weren't HOFers by any means but those guys made plays. If Thrash and Co. made some of the plays that Branch, Givens, Brown and co. made McNabb would have a ring or two. If recievers aren't good they aren't good and a Qb isn't gonna be able to do shyt about it.

Really?

Givens and Branch?

What happened when Givens signed with Tennessee?

nikka was out the league soon after..

McNabb was good but not great that's the point.

You can't argue against that.
 
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The Falcons passing game wasn't shyt til Ryan got there. There were all about running DVD before Vick got locked up. Not a very valid comparison. Would you disagree with the notion that White is better than every reciever McNabb ever had save TO?

Yeah, but why are we subtracting players now?

I`d also agree that Wesbtrook is better than almost anyone Falcons have had since Ryan's been there.

People forget how many yards Westbrook used to get receiving. Brent Celek is another guy who goes way under the radar from those Philly teams
 

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Really?

Givens and Branch?

What happened when Givens signed with Tennessee?
nikka was out the league soon after..

McNabb was good but not great that's the point.

You can't argue against that.

Okay but when he was in NE he tied the record for most consecutive playoff games with a TD. I dont' give a fukk how great Brady's throw were if he doesn't catch them shyts, they don't mean shyt. Yeah Branch you know the nikka tied with Jerry Rice and Wes Welker for most SB rec in a single game. What nikkas did elsewhere is totally immaterial to what they did with Brady. Because a nikka sucked on one team doesn't mean he didn't make plays on another. Because a nikka wasn't a all-time great doens't mean he didn't make plays when his team needed it. Branch and Givens sucked when they didn't have Thomas and the Pats offensive system. Thrash, Pinkson, Curtis just plain sucked period. You see the difference?
 

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Great QBs put in work no matter who the recievers are. Brady's first full year as a starter lead the league in TDs with a recieving core of

-WR Troy Brown
-WR David Patten
-WR Deion Branch (Rookie)
-TE Christian Fauria

:stopitslime: trash.

Look at peyton with the broncos... Outside of Thomas(who really isnt elite)Who else? Eric decker?:deadrose:
 

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Daunte Culpepper during his time with the Raiders. Close Thread.
 

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Okay but when he was in NE he tied the record for most consecutive playoff games with a TD. I dont' give a fukk how great Brady's throw were if he doesn't catch them shyts, they don't mean shyt. Yeah Branch you know the nikka tied with Jerry Rice and Wes Welker for most SB rec in a single game. What nikkas did elsewhere is totally immaterial to what they did with Brady. Because a nikka sucked on one team doesn't mean he didn't make plays on another. Because a nikka wasn't a all-time great doens't mean he didn't make plays when his team needed it. Branch and Givens sucked when they didn't have Thomas and the Pats offensive system. Thrash, Pinkson, Curtis just plain sucked period. You see the difference?

I lost a lot of respect for McNabb dog and I told you why.

I feel what you're saying but McNabb really pissed me off.
 

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Yeah, but why are we subtracting players now?

I`d also agree that Wesbtrook is better than almost anyone Falcons have had since Ryan's been there.

People forget how many yards Westbrook used to get receiving. Brent Celek is another guy who goes way under the radar from those Philly teams

:wtf: Who is subtracting players? What are you even talking about?

Michael Turner had 1700 yds and 17 TDs in Ryan's first season. He has also amassed 300 carries in 3 of Ryans 4 full seasons. Westbrook never did that because Fat Andy was an idiot who didn't deem running the ball as necessary...just look at McCoy now. Westbrook was an excellent playmaker and Celek is good too however it's rather silly to try to compare them to White, Jones, Gonzalez, and Turner. Ryan has a stacked offense, why is that so hard to acknowledge? Oh yeah because it kinda shyts on your stats point. I see.
 

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This is bullshyt that needs to stop. All you have to do is look through the NFL postseason record books and see how many Pats WR names you see. They weren't HOFers by any means but those guys made plays. If Thrash and Co. made some of the plays that Branch, Givens, Brown and co. made McNabb would have a ring or two. If recievers aren't good they aren't good and a Qb isn't gonna be able to do shyt about it.

You're proving to not be very smart. What did Branch and Givens do without Brady? Didn't Branch have Matt Hassleback? You know why there names are there you genius? Because they played in so many damn playoff games. You can't be this slow. I know you don't like Brady but go sit down.

Brady's receivers were so elite that we were throwing endzone passes to linebackers :laff:
 

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I lost a lot of respect for McNabb dog and I told you why.

I feel what you're saying but McNabb really pissed me off.

So basically you are allowing emotion to override logic and fact. I respect and appreciate your honesty.
 

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So basically you are allowing emotion to override logic and fact. I respect and appreciate your honesty.

McNabb was not a great QB to sum it all up..

He was good but not great. Him and Brady both played with wack WRs and Brady did more. He was a better thrower of the football. He was more accurate then McNabb.

McNabb left plays out on the field.
 
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:wtf: Who is subtracting players? What are you even talking about?

The second someone says

"Roddy White aint better than anyone McNabb ever had, except TO"

That's subtracting players. Oh McNabb never had a threat, except the one he did.

That's silly business.
 

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So basically you are allowing emotion to override logic and fact. I respect and appreciate your honesty.

nikka you sound like an idiot. His gut feeling is right. The fact that you're trying to use WRs as an argument to put McNabb anywhere near the same sentence as Tom Brady deserves you being put on mute.

Good players make plays no matter who their QB is. Garcon and Reggie Wayne still put up numbers without Peyton.

There has not been a single Patriots WR that put up numbers without Brady besides Moss. But your biased ass is somehow trying to use the argument that because they caught the ball when Brady read the defense and threw it to them that shows that Brady had more help than McNabb. Do you know how dumb that sounds? If two guys suck but one guy has a QB that is more accurate and reads the defense faster and puts the ball right into his hands, does that prove that he is now a better receiver?

Go sit down. Bad WRs do not make plays when a great QB is no longer throwing them the ball. McNabb made due with average receivers but he was just as mistake prone at times as they were.
 
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