WSJ: Patrick Mahomes has kept an entire generation of Quarterbacks from winning a Superbowl.

[Regular_P]

I haven't seen anyone mention that this exact same garbage could have been written about Brady heading into the 2005 playoffs. Brad Johnson was the only QB to win a Super Bowl in that time period and he was drafted in 1992.

 

[Spliff]

They're trying to jinx the hell outa KC aint they?

 

[Copy Ninja]

i was just selecting the dates based on when they were winning super bowls, i agree that the teams up through 2007 were more like the 01-04 teams. they still had a lot of the core defensive players like bruschi, vrabel, richard seymour, rodney harrison, wilfork, and some of the guys on the o line. then by 2011 theyve got gronk and some of the other guys who would be there for their second dynasty

I remember this! And then Von and them destroyed Brady in the AFC Championship. I think that game, is the most I ever saw Brady get hit. He got peppered but he also proved his toughness in that game...

I think if you're gonna split the Patriot dynasty you gotta go from 2001 thru 2007. The line of demarcation was Brady getting hurt W1 2008, and the Patriots going on a 4-year drought to get back to the Super Bowl...

I think you can start the second leg of their dynasty in 2011 when they went back to the Super Bowl, 2011 thru 2018. Most people don't remember the 4-year drought, so it's easy to combine both stretches as one dynasty. I get it...

Its kinda like how the Spurs are often credited as a 15-year dynasty, even though they themselves went 7 years between winning championships once...

Their actual dynasty was 1998-2008, '08 being last appearance in WCF for 4 years, 1998-99 season being their first championship. The Comeback Spurs of 2012-14 only won one title, so they weren't a dynasty, but that era gets included in the "Spurs dynasty"....

Great QBs do have an outsized impact, though. Agree with all else you said...

You can basically split the Pats run by their defensive core. The first run we had guys like McGinest, Seymour, Harrison, Law, Vrabel, Colvin, Bruschi. Then those guys left and we didn't have a lot of guys on D outside of Wilfork and Mayo.

Our second run started when we got players like Hightower, McCourty, Ninkovich, Chung, Jones, Collins, Flowers, Gilmore. The offense with Brady was always great, but like the old adage 'defense wins championships'.

As great as Mahomes is, it's going to be the defense that's going to help him catch Brady.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Exactly.

All it takes is one play as well. The Chiefs being offside, the whistle being blown on the Jaguars fumble recovery in the playoffs, the Troy Brown play against the Chargers, and other helped the Patriots win big games.


The tuck rule too..


@Trojan 24 @2Quik4UHoes .

 

[skyrunner1]

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Jordan dream killer status

 

[murksiderock]

The only player he's beaten more than once is Allen...

 

[Ozymandeas]

Damn. I get why Jordan hates Isiah and the Pistons now

And he only lost three times.

Allen done got his ass whooped four times.

IDK if he's ever gonna get past him. It's gonna be in his head now that he can't.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

The only player he's beaten more than once is Allen...

In two weeks it'll be hurts twice too

 

[Roid Jones]

And I dream broken dreams
I make them come true
I make them for you

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

It's like when Bron kept getting his ass beat by the warriors, but at least he got the one.

ole 1-3 ass nikka

 

[KidJSoul]

Mahomes and Reid

 

[STAN JONES]

meh

its obvious they’re getting carried by the refs

they aren’t scary anymore like they were when they had Tyreek

 

[jmegamar]

That’s what dynasties do.

 

[the next guy]

Not so fast