What PG was better than Steve Nash in the last 30 years?

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I would put slightly above Thomas and barely above Stockton and slightly below Magic Johnson.
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how many MVP's does chris paul have?

Chris Paul has lot of PER and WS stats skewed because Nash was feeding Amare to tune of 26 PPG ; however, assists are a wash, ppg are a wash, efficiency is Nash, and defense we can give to Paul based on the steals. But Nash totally demoralizes Paul in efficiency and shooting stats.
Assits are a wash yet Paul averaged less turnovers?

Paul was also a better man to man defender. Even made it on the All Defensive team 5 times in his career.

Nash was a better shooter, but Paul was the better scorer.

This is not even close to me. I would even take Gary Payton over Steve Nash. Nash is a system player. When he was in Dallas no one viewed him as a superstar player.

Again the stats back it up. Nash isn't on Paul's level.
 

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how many MVP's does chris paul have?

Chris Paul has lot of PER and WS stats skewed because Nash was feeding Amare to tune of 26 PPG ; however, assists are a wash, ppg are a wash, efficiency is Nash, and defense we can give to Paul based on the steals. But Nash totally demoralizes Paul in efficiency and shooting stats.

Only the 04-05 season.

Chris Paul held Nash to a 1 point game.
 

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Try arguing against these stats.

Anyone that watched these dudes play and know basketball knows Steve Nash wasn't on 2008/2009 Chris Paul's level at any point in his career. The stats back that up.

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Yea but again the point I was really trying to make was that their primes NEVER co-existed. Nash's prime was 04-07, I would say CP3 is still in his prime starting from 08-09, even though injuries have slowed him more interestingly Nash is arguably the better playoff performer despite both of them not really being all that successful. Now could CP3 surpass Nash as a whole, maybe but as it stands, I would still give the nod to Nash.
 

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Assits are a wash yet Paul averaged less turnovers?

Paul was also a better man to man defender. Even made it on the All Defensive team 5 times in his career.

Nash was a better shooter, but Paul was the better scorer.

This is not even close to me. I would even take Gary Payton over Steve Nash. Nash is a system player. When he was in Dallas no one viewed him as a superstar player.

Again the stats back it up. Nash isn't on Paul's level.


how is Paul a better scorer to someone who scored just as much but better efficiency.


negroes making up categories just to prove their point...."Paul was a better cross over specialist"
 

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Top 5 for sure

Didnt read thread but Id guess Coli consensus is top 20 maybe, 25

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Nash is one of the worst defensive point guards of all time, especially out of those who are considered "good". BTW, Cousy didnt play in the last 30 years.

If I was starting a team, and had to pick a PG over Nash, I would pick (in no order):
KJ
Parker
Paul
Williams
Payton
Kidd
Stockton
Zeke
Magic

Some others would be in contention as well. (Not counting Iverson as a PG)
 

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Nash is one of the worst defensive point guards of all time, especially out of those who are considered "good". BTW, Cousy didnt play in the last 30 years.

If I was starting a team, and had to pick a PG over Nash, I would pick (in no order):
KJ
Parker
Paul
Williams
Payton
Kidd
Stockton
Zeke
Magic

Some others would be in contention as well. (Not counting Iverson as a PG)
never said Cousy was playing in the last 30 years, I think you missed where i said top 5 ever and made the list.
Your list is hot garbage and no one is gonna take you seriously.
 

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how is Paul a better scorer to someone who scored just as much but better efficiency.


negroes making up categories just to prove their point...."Paul was a better cross over specialist"
When did Nash ever come close to averaging 23 ppg?
 

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Nash has a piss poor career PER rating, somewhere around 20 or so. I don't think he took enough shots for the rating to consider his contribution noteworthy on a relative basis compared to PGs who take or took more shots. He was a great facilitator though.
 

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never said Cousy was playing in the last 30 years, I think you missed where i said top 5 ever and made the list.
Your list is hot garbage and no one is gonna take you seriously.

fair enough, i missed the word "ever".

my list is hot garbage but you have cousy as a top 5 pg ever? Dude dribbled with one fukkin hand. Every point guard i listed is more well rounded than nash and wouldnt need a system entirely crafted to highlight his strengths and hide his weaknesses for them to prosper. you really think nash is better than gary payton, for instance? are you fukking crazy?
 

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fair enough, i missed the word "ever".

my list is hot garbage but you have cousy as a top 5 pg ever? Dude dribbled with one fukkin hand. Every point guard i listed is more well rounded than nash and wouldnt need a system entirely crafted to highlight his strengths and hide his weaknesses for them to prosper. you really think nash is better than gary payton, for instance? are you fukking crazy?


Nash was a 2X MVP...he didn't have a system created for him, he would have succeeded anywhere...
 

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Nash has a piss poor career PER rating, somewhere around 20 or so. If he was so efficient, why doesn't the PER ratin recognize his efficiency? I think it's because he didn't take enough shots.


i think it's because you don't know hwo to calculate PER
 
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