"Weights make you big calisthenics make you strong "- kali muscle

[Wildhundreds]

That’s false man. You get those cuts by overloading the muscle and dieting. Not only that but the dude that could do 75 straight push-ups with correct form can get up and still punch you in your face while your arms be too sore to put somebody for the next four days.

Repping out is overloading the muscle..

And a few pages back, i said gains are made in the kitchen..

And as far as soreness is concerned.. Soreness goes away once your muscles get use to your exercise, so it's time to change up the exercise.. If your muscles aren't getting fatigued anymore, you're not building muscles.. just simply maintaining..

 

[Henny and_ HotWings]

The truth is gents, you can get big and strong from doing both....

you can do them individually or separate but to see optimal results including both weights and calisthenics with 2-3 cardio sessions a week will get you right...

ive gotten decently strong with a decent build from doing calisthenics, good for joint health, keeps you honest and Keeps you from “ego lifting” it gets your lung and core involved a bit more, it increases your work capacity from doing sooo many reps which will actually carry over to other areas of fitness such as cardio and weights should you choose to fukk with them....

getting big and strong comes down to diet.... you wanna keep calories at a range that is good for your body, as long as you keep calories at maintenance or above, and have the right rep ranges and exercise selection, YOU CAN GET BIG... just make sure to keep protein up as well as healthy/complex carbs such as brown rice, fruits, potatoes, quinoa, sweet potatoes, ORGANIC pasta, beans, oatmeal etc etc

don’t get it twisted tho



When it comes to getting strong, increasing muscle mass, boosting testosterone and speeding up metabolism, WEIGHTS ARE KING. you can manipulate the work load and rep ranges in a way that you just can’t with calisthenics (unless you’re doing WEIGHT CALISTHENICS, which are also great)

In order for you to get the same work load with calisthenics as you do with weights, you would have to either add a decent amount of weight and make them weighted calisthenics OR you would have to do sooooooooo much got damn volume. We’re talking like 500-1000 push ups, hundred of squats and hundreds of pull ups, sit ups etc etc..... And truth be told, sometimes a nikka just ain’t got that much damn time to do all that lmaooooo..why do that when you can hit the weights for bout 30 minutes and be done???

so yes calisthenics are great and they are effective but they do have a glass ceiling and on top of that the workouts would be long as fukk and have about a million reps just to match what you can do with the weights in a fraction of the time....

-hit the weights 3 times a week
-Do calisthenics 1 once or twice a week (you can add them onto one of you weight sessions too)
-cardio twice a week along with 1 HIIT session
-keep protein high, eat HEALTHY/COMPLEX carbs, healthy fats, hella water and good sleep

THATS ALL YOU NEED GENTS

 

[The ADD]

Repping out is overloading the muscle..

And a few pages back, i said gains are made in the kitchen..

And as far as soreness is concerned.. Soreness goes away once your muscles get use to your exercise, so it's time to change up the exercise.. If your muscles aren't getting fatigued anymore, you're not building muscles.. just simply maintaining..

Soreness isn’t a full indicator of workout effectiveness or muscle stimulation/growth. Neither is “fatigue”.

 

[Counter Racist Male]

Soreness isn’t a full indicator of workout effectiveness or muscle stimulation/growth.

It’s called overtraining.

 

[Wildhundreds]

Soreness isn’t a full indicator of workout effectiveness or muscle stimulation/growth.

Its definitely an indicator..

A standing bicep curl can expose bad form.. people rock with the curl bar which isnt correct. But if you haven't worked out in a while, it'll still make you sore, and give you noticeable gains.

However once you get use to working out with improper form, and someone comes along and correct you, you'll definitely feel the soreness come back.. And you'll see even more gains because you're working a muscle that wasn't worked while doing an incorrect bicep curl..

 

[The ADD]

No

It isn’t

Soreness Isn't an Indicator of How Good Your Workout Was

 

[-G$-]

@The ADD , i pointed out the pothole and you steered right into it

 

[The ADD]

@The ADD , i pointed out the pothole and you steered right into it

 

[Wildhundreds]

It isn’t

Soreness Isn't an Indicator of How Good Your Workout Was

"The amount of muscle damage, however, was considerably higher from the extension machine."

Muscle building is about tearing and healing mucles?

 

[The ADD]

Its definitely an indicator..

A standing bicep curl can expose bad form.. people rock with the curl bar which isnt correct. But if you haven't worked out in a while, it'll still make you sore, and give you noticeable gains.

However once you get use to working out with improper form, and someone comes along and correct you, you'll definitely feel the soreness come back.. And you'll see even more gains because you're working a muscle that wasn't worked while doing an incorrect bicep curl..

I said full..............as in if your muscle aren’t sore or fatigued that doesn’t mean muscle isn’t being damage or growth isn’t occuring

 

[Swagnificent]

Nothing builds chest like bench press (All variations). Tell me a hippie new age Calisthenics movement that can match the bench press. I’ll wait for the answer whilst finish making your kale smoothie.

Weighted dips and pushups are far better for building up the chest. Plus they have the added benefit of strengthing up your core as well.

 

[Hungerpain]

nikkas will not let this thread die.

 

[Swagnificent]

Dude straight calls you out and asks you to post receipts and breh immediate hits the backpedal like a DB before he gets burned.

Do you?

Look to the internet for validation brehs.

There is nothing anybody can say to me from behind a keyboard that will make me go out of my way to prove them wrong. Only the weakest most insecure people do that.

And yes I do lift if you consider barbell squats a lift. That's how I know low rep/heavy weights builds muscle more effectively than high reps/low weights. I apply the same principles to weighted calisthenics. Low reps/heavy weights and progressive overload.

 

[Son Goku]

Look to the internet for validation brehs.

There is nothing anybody can say to me from behind a keyboard that will make me go out of my way to prove them wrong. Only the weakest most insecure people do that.

And yes I do lift if you consider barbell squats a lift. That's how I know low rep/heavy weights builds muscle more effectively than high reps/low weights. I apply the same principles to weighted calisthenics. Low reps/heavy weights and progressive overload.

 

[Swagnificent]

You can go to the first dudes page and at a cursory glance see he both goes to the gym and uses weights come on breh.

Austin Dunham only uses weights for his lateral delts and barbel squats if you want to act like that ain't weighted calisthenics. Everything else he does is calisthenics. I've watched a lot of his youtube videos cause I'm trying to follow a similar progression and he had an amazing physique all the way back in 2017 before he started doing any weights.

FTR he goes to the gym to do calisthenics. In particular weighted calisthenics (i.e. weighted pullups and weighted dips). After a certain point the park is no longer suitable if you want to do big time weighted calisthenics. You will need to go to the gym and add plates.