"Weights make you big calisthenics make you strong "- kali muscle

[Counter Racist Male]

I see calisthenics crew in here bullshytting but never come through with actual receipts.


And what's worse they got dumb nikkas believing their . Calisthenics burn more fat than weights cause my body magically knows I'm moving it differently in space?

Or do muscles really only understand resistance/tension (combined with the fact that these muhfukkas eat like birds and be doing a shyt-ton of reps thus burning more calories. )


Brb nikkas can't chin or pull-up heavy weights.
Brb nikkas can do 1000 push ups a day but can't bench 2 plates.
Brb nikkas not even in the 1000 pound club, let alone 12 or 14 hundo.
Brb these the nikkas that be starring in these gym fail videos.



Let weak nikkas like @Swagnificent that weigh as much as the average American female lead you non-lifting brehs down the path of frailty, femininity, and futility.



The fewer swole nikkas running around, the more impressive #WeightGang's gains seem to these hoes.

They are tons of guys that I haven’t lift the weights before but do calisthenics and bodyweight workouts they have oppressive physiques. Just go on those bar stars IG’s or some of those Calesthenics Instagram pages to see what I’m talking about.

 

[Counter Racist Male]

Those dude aren't really jacked IMO, they're all moderately muscular athletes with very low body fat.

Compare an Oly gymnast to an NFL RB of the same height. The gymnast in his man leotard looks more ripped but is smaller than the NFLer. Low body fat makes you look bigger in pics/video than you actually are IRL, it's an optical illusion. That same gymnast will prolly look like a DYEL redditor in normal street clothes.

That depends on the person. Are you going to sit here and tell me that Mike Tyson wasn’t jacked? How much heavy weight training did you see him doing? The answer is none most of his training was on the heavy bag sparring and bodyweight. Don’t get me started on MMA fighters

 

[Swagnificent]

Thank you,

Calisthenics is this new age thinking much like veganism, CrossFit and other new age nonsense. Nothing gets you jacked, builds muscle, makes you as strong as high rep weight lifting. With strict form and time under tension training not only will you have bigger muscles, you will also have better CNS response time, more anaerobic and more strength. It is a training system they cannot be beaten in the athletic aspect and arena. The “only issue” with weight training is you train muscle for short explosive movement thus you lose some aerobic capability. But who cares, humans were designed to be lean muscular cheetah built like creatures. Sometimes the answer is so simple but humans always want to complicate things. Ramp up the protein and fat and get under that bar.

If you never felt a real bodybuilding/high rep pump, you never have lived life

High reps?

Do you even lift? The most effective way to build muscle is low reps and heavy weights. All high reps do is help you build up endurance with minimal muscle growth. Optimal muscle growth occurs based on lifting heavy weights and causing your muscles to have to grow to lift that weight more efficiently.

 

[Counter Racist Male]

High reps?

Do you even lift? The most effective way to build muscle is low reps and heavy weights. All high reps do is help you build up endurance with minimal muscle growth. Optimal muscle growth occurs based on lifting heavy weights and causing your muscles to have to grow to lift that weight more efficiently.

Precisely what I’m trying to say. Between four and seven reps is optimal for gaining muscle. High reps do very little for gaining muscle.

 

[Counter Racist Male]

Each approach has its pros and cons.

Bodyweight exercises are far better in terms of recruiting the entire physical chain which has massive benefits for the mind body connectivity/proprioception plus you become acutely aware of any impingements/weaknesses in the tendons/connective tissue/secondary muscles as these will tire way before your mains do. Only as strong as your weakest link.

Freeweights on the other hand allow for isolation which facilitates higher weights = more hypertrophy. Down sides are the weaknesses are masked thus ignored (which is why people who can bench more than their bodyweight with perfect form often can't do 20 proper push ups) and the extra stress it puts on your joints due to the nature of the lifts.

Ultimately it all depends on your goal, genetics and various other aspects as there isn't a one size fits all approach to this so get in where you fit in as any kind of training is better than none so hop to.

This is a perfect breakdown!

 

[Swagnificent]

Precisely what I’m trying to say. Between four and seven reps is optimal for gaining muscle. High reps do very little for gaining muscle.

Yup. I don't even know what my max pullup or dips number is when it comes to reps. Some guys on here bragging about doing 30 pullups in a row. shyt doesn't do as much for you when it comes to building muscle as weighted pullups.

I increase weight every time I start to get past 6 reps with proper form. And I increase the weight to the point where I can barely do 3 reps. I work in that rep range until my strength increases to the point I'm back to doing 6 reps with proper form. Then I rinse and repeat.

Progressive overload (even when doing calisthenics) is how you build muscle in the most effective manner.

 

[ShenJingPoQi]

High reps?

Do you even lift? The most effective way to build muscle is low reps and heavy weights. All high reps do is help you build up endurance with minimal muscle growth. Optimal muscle growth occurs based on lifting heavy weights and causing your muscles to have to grow to lift that weight more efficiently.

Bodybuilders are the biggest and most muscular sub group of the fitness world (Yes, they use AAS but so does everyone else). They train for the PUMP, and use the training method of time under tension. Low reps heavy weights don’t recruit enough muscle fibres nor stimulate enough damage to maximum muscular growth.

High reps, strict form with TUT will build the most muscle. This is how most bodybuilders train, EVER few train using the heavy duty method. That is powerlifting methodology.

 

[ShenJingPoQi]

WRONG! Soldiers have doing Calisthenics since ancient times. Fighters have using employing floor work since before steel was invented. Weight lifting is not superior to calisthenics.

Soldiers are NOT the biggest nor are they the strongest so why do I care what they did or do. We are talking about building the most muscles. High rep training/Bodybuilding training induces the most amount of muscle growth hence why we call this training hypertrophy training.

As I stated Calisthenics is the veganism of the bodybuilding world. It has it purposes but there is a superior more efficient methodology. Nothing builds chest like bench press (All variations). Tell me a hippie new age Calisthenics movement that can match the bench press. I’ll wait for the answer whilst finish making your kale smoothie.

 

[Counter Racist Male]

Soldiers are NOT the biggest nor are they the strongest so why do I care what they did or do. We are talking about building the most muscles. High rep training/Bodybuilding training induces the most amount of muscle growth hence why we call this training hypertrophy training.

As I stated Calisthenics is the veganism of the bodybuilding world. It has it purposes but there is a superior more efficient methodology. Nothing builds chest like bench press (All variations). Tell me a hippie new age Calisthenics movement that can match the bench press. I’ll wait for the answer whilst finish making your kale smoothie.

I’ll put money on it that a Navy seal would be anybody build in a test of fitness. And definitely in the Of life or death battle. Bodyweight training is not veganism. It is all as working out is it self. And overall it may be superior to weightlifting. Weightlifting has only been with us for about 120 years or so. Bodybuilding coach it is barely 70 years old.

Do you know the reason why many fighters don’t do bench presses? Because they can destroy your rotator cuff’s and they tend to cause things like tennis elbow.

 

[ShenJingPoQi]

I’ll put money on it that a Navy seal would be anybody build in a test of fitness. And definitely in the Of life or death battle. Bodyweight training is not veganism. It is all as working out is it self. And overall it may be superior to weightlifting. Weightlifting has only been with us for about 120 years or so. Bodybuilding coach it is barely 70 years old.

Do you know the reason why many fighters don’t do bench presses? Because they can destroy your rotator cuff’s and they tend to cause things like tennis elbow.

Did I say anything about fitness? I’m talking about building muscle tissues. Bodybuilding training aka hypertrophy training or High reps with TUT will build the most muscle tissue. When you consider the considerable size in muscle growth along with strength that comes with it, it is easily the most optimal source of training. You need to get over this obsession with fitness and movement, we live in a modern world, EVER limited are your exposure to arenas where speed and agility are tested. Outside sports, you will do rare feats of physical exertion in the real world.

Any form of exercise comes with a risk if done improperly. Even playing ball, you can destroy your ACL with a simple wrong movement but that doesn’t negate the benefits of basketball. If you use the correct weights, high reps with TUT where the muscle is under tension all the time, you should not risk your rotator cuff.

No one won Mr Olympia doing calisthenics or ever win doing that form of training. Why? Because it doesn’t build muscle like hypertrophy training. It’s a tool, much like veganism. It’s the cleanse of the fitness world.

 

[truth2you]

High reps?

Do you even lift? The most effective way to build muscle is low reps and heavy weights. All high reps do is help you build up endurance with minimal muscle growth. Optimal muscle growth occurs based on lifting heavy weights and causing your muscles to have to grow to lift that weight more efficiently.

That's some what true, but it's not about weight, it's about exertion. It doesn't matter the weight as long as you do it to the point that you have to push yourself to get those last few reps

Heavy weights do it quicker then light weights, but the bennefit of high rep is you train the muscle to hold more blood, the blood will be rich in oxygen, and you have less of a chance to hurt yourself. As long as you increase the weight over time, you will still build muscle

 

[360dagod]

Might as well start the low carb thread to make the cipher complete

 

[King]

Wrong.

Calisthenics will make you more coordinated and work stabilization muscles that weights don’t hit as well. It alone won’t make you stronger beyond being able to do more reps with good form.

But strictly speaking, training weighted movements will make you stronger at those movements. Calisthenics can help you break plateaus as a supplement, otherwise not at all.

 

[MoveForward]

Bodyweight training have been used for thousands of years. Proper weight training is probably about 120 years old. Ancient armies have use calisthenics since time is been recorded to condition fighters so please tell me how this is New Age stuff?

Meaning, you have alot of new Youtubers that are swole and lying saying they got that way using BW exercises only. We all know BW exercises aren't new...

 

[Son Goku]

why you catching feelings?

I'm here to just pass on knowledge to those that want it. You can keep catching feelings. Just know I could care less. I'm not here to try and prove myself to you. So go ahead and post your workouts. I'll just be sitting back laughing at how desperate you are for internet clout.

Dude straight calls you out and asks you to post receipts and breh immediate hits the backpedal like a DB before he gets burned.

That depends on the person. Are you going to sit here and tell me that Mike Tyson wasn’t jacked? How much heavy weight training did you see him doing? The answer is none most of his training was on the heavy bag sparring and bodyweight. Don’t get me started on MMA fighters

Mike Tyson a gymnast? Cause ole buddy was talking about gymnasts being jacked (they aren't).

Again, boxer and MMA fighters aren't the strongest or most aesthetic dudes (no homo), so bringing them up isn't really relevant unless anyone ITT is tryna be one.

Wrong.

Calisthenics will make you more coordinated and work stabilization muscles that weights don’t hit as well. It alone won’t make you stronger beyond being able to do more reps with good form.

What stabilizers are calisthenics hitting that heavy squats, deads, cleans, jerks don't hit?

Do you even lift?

Do you?

 

[Son Goku]

Non-lifting ass coli cats talmbout combat (most ain't ever enlisted or been commissioned) and armies.

Those armies used calisthenics because weights were invented and it's much easier to have someone do some push-ups and sit-ups in a large group training environment than taking everyone to the gym (nowadays).



7th SFG cats train with weights like a mug. AF PJs, TACP and CCT cats have their own gym in the squadron.


But keep bushing weights and eating multiple meals a day calis crew. The fewer nikkas I have to fight for the squat rack, the better.