that aint c00nish behaviour, it was normal at the time for africans to enslave one another just like in europe, it was normal for europeans to enslave other european rivals. Every African nation had at one point in time enslaved a neighbouring African tribe/nation. Nearly every african tribe had been both master and slave. Atleast the moors gave them a chance to be free via accepting islam unlike most slaves who were castrated and subdued for generations in Europe/Asia
Was Slavery and the Oppression of Blacks revenge for The Moors?
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Maybe that's why those Spanish señoritas tend to have dat ass and that body african sisters are wrk known for. They seem to have more booty than the average cac. 
Respect homie, I'll shoot you that PM now
What do you mean by...........Jesus is as real as santa claus and the easter bunny. The letter J didn't even always exist! For the 1st 1400 years of christianty, the god they worshipped was Iesus ( pronounced as Hey Zuess). This god of the gauls (galations) existed centuries before christianity was invented, was part of a trinity and received lynched human beings as sacrifices (according to the NT Jesus was hung from a tree). Before the letter J was invented, the bibles even wrote his name as Iesus. The church of Ephesus, mentioned in the new testament is another reference to him. And the "Esphesians," which is another book in the bible, are his followers. The concept of this pagan god turned hebrew messiah was concocted by the court of Titus, a Roman leader (Titus and Roman's were both books of the NT as well) along with a group of evil jewish priest/scribes who wanted to turn the jews away from the faith. Read Jeremiah 8:8, 11:9, Ezekial 22:25, 1 Macabees 11-15).
The true Messiah was not who we recognize today as Jesus, but he was a man out of Judah who was born with the physical curse of his people's national sin of the transgression of the everlasting laws of YHWH. That is why no one wanted to look at him despite him speaking a pure message of YHWH, albeit with a tremendously afflicted speech impediment. Don't believe me? read Isaiah 53 and you can see for yourself. I believe the true messiah was murdered at the hand of europeans who had dominion over the Israelites and their religious leaders. So in a sense complicit blacks did lead the the death the messiah.
The Jews in Israel today are a mixture of converts. According to scripture, King David annexed Idumea and the Edomites (arabs) became jews, that today are considered sephardic jews. They remained in the area for the most part when the black jews were forced into exile into Africa in 70AD. Another type of Jew sprang up around the 7th century. White people in the caucus mountains went through a national conversion to the religion of the jews (though heavily corrupted). These white jews invaded europe, and after the holocaust, invaded the middle east where they are recognized as Ashkenazic Jews. So the majority of Jews in Israel today are converts, of either Sephardic or Ashkenazim origin, and their numbers in Israel are roughly equal. Outside of Israel, the numbers of Ashkenazim to Sephardic are like 80% to 20%, but in reality all of them are liars and false jews (read revelation 2:9 and 3:9). The old testament proves blacks of slave descent are the true Jews and Israelites, and so does historical evidence outside of the bible. Like i said, the Kingdom of Judah was exiled into Africa, as evidenced by this map constructed in the 1500s. (look right above the words "slave coast")
but not only did they live in the Kingdom of Judah, they had travelled entirely across africa from the east to the west via the Sahel corridor, and they were taken as slaves throughout their journey by Arabs and Africans and sold all over the world. From India to the Americas. Their customs still remain amongst the many of the africans they came in contact with, and you can see that for yourself as well. Until we as black people realize this, as well as the reasons why, we will continue to stay cursed, and the worst part of the curse is right around the corner, so its definitely time to WAKE UP!
"The old testament proves blacks of slave descent are the true Jews and Israelites"
And how do you feel about the ancient black Muslim Kingdoms?
Tommy Knocks
retired
show me where the zulus had slaves.
You still at it in this thread??
Zulus... and especially the leader shaka... was the most notorious c00n in history . As in real c00n, not fake c00n like u try to make the moors out to be.
Pages of nikkas educating you and you still wanna go at the moors and mailians and Sudanese necks?? Whose the real c00n?
Wheres your proof???
That was because those East Indians had the same dark skin(sometimes darker) than Africans on the continent. But that doesn't dismiss what the word Moors mean, which was used exclusively for dark skinned Africans on the CONTINENT by Greeks/Romans. Who else did the Romans/Greeks mean by Moors??
And I said the word MOOR PREDATES Muslims in general. Show me proof that the label Moor is inaccurate for black Africans. You and @Sensei haven't posted squat to back up your cases. Saying that the word does not even correlate with African(to even dismiss black for that matter) is retarded. The word "Moor" comes from the Greek word Maur/mauro which not only meant black, but described the people of Mauritania(Morroco/Northern Algeria) province of Rome.
One century before the Islamic conquest of the Maghreb, Procopius' History 3.13.29 reports:
The first Moors named by the Greeks/Romans were North African Imazighen, aka "Berbers," notably darker than
the north Mediterraneans...
But heres where it gets WORSE for you and @Sensei !!!!!
Moor:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=Moor&searchmode=none
Sorry.
@isthisreallife
There isn't even any proof of the Moors even importing large volumes of slaves from Africa, but we do know about them importing large amounts of European female slaves. Which had an impact on their DNA.
But more importantly after the Moors lost and were kicked out of Iberia, how can they help Europeans enslave Africans when they too were enslaved by the Europeans???? After they were conquered...
Like I said the Moors and Malians had NOTHING on the pagan Dahomey(or Ashanti's) whose economy was solely based upon slavery and trading to the Europeans for guns and alcohol. The Dahomey imported way more African slaves than Malians or the Moors can even dream.
The Moors and Malians only get flack because they're Muslim.
Going back to this argument by @GetInTheTruck
"early arab historians described east indians as "black" as well, so what? using these silly word games to provide historical analysis is always a slippery slope."
Early Arab historians never grouped East Indians with "black Africans" like the Moors. Early Arab scholars noted this:
No where are Indians included.
"early arab historians described east indians as "black" as well, so what? using these silly word games to provide historical analysis is always a slippery slope."
Early Arab historians never grouped East Indians with "black Africans" like the Moors. Early Arab scholars noted this:
Bernard Lewis. Race and Slavery in the Middle East: An Historical Enquiry (Kindle Locations 2049-2053).
No where are Indians included.
How was Shaka Zulu a c00n? The Zulus fought cac imperialism from the 16-1900s and Shaka largely prevented cacs from completely penetrating south Africa.
After his death they flooded in and put up puppets but even they were deposed in favor of fighting the invaders
What I think his point is that the Moors, Malians or any African Muslim states should not be singled out for slavery when MANY African states Muslim, Christian, Pagan did it. Some more than others and some less than others.
IDK about Shaka being a "c00n".
GetInTheTruck
Member
Well you're half right:
India is the first nation to have cultivated the sciences, and
although black, Allah ranked them above many white and brown people. It is a powerful, wealthy and
populous nation known for the wisdom of its people and their abilities in all branches of knowledge
The Indians, as known to all nations for many centuries, are the metal (essence) of wisdom, the source of fairness and objectivity. They are peoples of sublime pensiveness, universal apologues, and useful and rare inventions. In spite of the fact that their color is in the first stage of blackness, which puts them in the same category as the blacks, Allah, in His glory, did not give them the low characters, the poor manners, nor the inferior principles associated with this group and ranked them above a large number of white and brown peoples.
The Categories of Nations by Said Al-Andalusi
So yeah, they were "black" but considered "different,"....that's kinda the point I was making, being categorized as "black" will mean different things depending on the time and place.
These statements also prove that many muslim Arabs had negative perception of black Africans. These records are from the 11th century...if the Moors were an exclusively black African people how do you reconcile these comments about the inferiority of black Africans?
I think you need to compare color culture from 700ad to 1200 ad....
GetInTheTruck
Member
Wheres your proof???
That was because those East Indians had the same dark skin(sometimes darker) than Africans on the continent. But that doesn't dismiss what the word Moors mean, which was used exclusively for dark skinned Africans on the CONTINENT by Greeks/Romans. Who else did the Romans/Greeks mean by Moors??
And I said the word MOOR PREDATES Muslims in general. Show me proof that the label Moor is inaccurate for black Africans. You and @Sensei haven't posted squat to back up your cases. Saying that the word does not even correlate with African(to even dismiss black for that matter) is retarded. The word "Moor" comes from the Greek word Maur/mauro which not only meant black, but described the people of Mauritania(Morroco/Northern Algeria) province of Rome.
One century before the Islamic conquest of the Maghreb, Procopius' History 3.13.29 reports:
The first Moors named by the Greeks/Romans were North African Imazighen, aka "Berbers," notably darker than
the north Mediterraneans...
But heres where it gets WORSE for you and @Sensei !!!!!
Moor:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=Moor&searchmode=none
Sorry.
@isthisreallife
There isn't even any proof of the Moors even importing large volumes of slaves from Africa, but we do know about them importing large amounts of European female slaves. Which had an impact on their DNA.
But more importantly after the Moors lost and were kicked out of Iberia, how can they help Europeans enslave Africans when they too were enslaved by the Europeans???? After they were conquered...
I really don't know why you're getting so excited fam. I never said a black man couldn't be called a "moor," I said it wasn't racially exclusive. Many moors were "black," many were not. The moors were muslim and islam was introduced to africans by arabs, so common sense alone will tell you that they couldn't have been exclusively black. All these stupid word games revolving around the etymology of the word moor, black....
