Was Slavery and the Oppression of Blacks revenge for The Moors?

[CurrencyChase]

Jesus is as real as santa claus and the easter bunny. The letter J didn't even always exist! For the 1st 1400 years of christianty, the god they worshipped was Iesus ( pronounced as Hey Zuess). This god of the gauls (galations) existed centuries before christianity was invented, was part of a trinity and received lynched human beings as sacrifices (according to the NT Jesus was hung from a tree). Before the letter J was invented, the bibles even wrote his name as Iesus. The church of Ephesus, mentioned in the new testament is another reference to him. And the "Esphesians," which is another book in the bible, are his followers. The concept of this pagan god turned hebrew messiah was concocted by the court of Titus, a Roman leader (Titus and Roman's were both books of the NT as well) along with a group of evil jewish priest/scribes who wanted to turn the jews away from the faith. Read Jeremiah 8:8, 11:9, Ezekial 22:25, 1 Macabees 11-15).

The true Messiah was not who we recognize today as Jesus, but he was a man out of Judah who was born with the physical curse of his people's national sin of the transgression of the everlasting laws of YHWH. That is why no one wanted to look at him despite him speaking a pure message of YHWH, albeit with a tremendously afflicted speech impediment. Don't believe me? read Isaiah 53 and you can see for yourself. I believe the true messiah was murdered at the hand of europeans who had dominion over the Israelites and their religious leaders. So in a sense complicit blacks did lead the the death the messiah.

The Jews in Israel today are a mixture of converts. According to scripture, King David annexed Idumea and the Edomites (arabs) became jews, that today are considered sephardic jews. They remained in the area for the most part when the black jews were forced into exile into Africa in 70AD. Another type of Jew sprang up around the 7th century. White people in the caucus mountains went through a national conversion to the religion of the jews (though heavily corrupted). These white jews invaded europe, and after the holocaust, invaded the middle east where they are recognized as Ashkenazic Jews. So the majority of Jews in Israel today are converts, of either Sephardic or Ashkenazim origin, and their numbers in Israel are roughly equal. Outside of Israel, the numbers of Ashkenazim to Sephardic are like 80% to 20%, but in reality all of them are liars and false jews (read revelation 2:9 and 3:9). The old testament proves blacks of slave descent are the true Jews and Israelites, and so does historical evidence outside of the bible. Like i said, the Kingdom of Judah was exiled into Africa, as evidenced by this map constructed in the 1500s. (look right about the words "slave coast")

but not only did they live in the Kingdom of Judah, they had travelled across africa via the Sahel corridor, and they were taken as slaves throughout their journey by Arabs and Africans and sold all over the world. From India to the Americas. Until we as black people realize this, as well as the reasons why, we will continue to stay cursed, and the worst part of the curse is right around the corner, so its definitely time to WAKE UP!

but if blacks were the original jew and were forced out of there, where is the culture that would follow them to africa?

 

[fscballin]

but if blacks were the original jew and were forced out of there, where is the culture that would follow them to africa?

are you asking me if there are any traces of Hebrews still in Africa today? or Amongst the Jews that were brought into slavery? or something else?

 

[CurrencyChase]

are you asking me if there are any traces of Hebrews still in Africa today? or Amongst the Jews that were brought into slavery? or something else?

yes the history and culture..even if people were kick out of a land..their culture should follow?

 

[fscballin]

yes the history and culture..even if people were kick out of a land..their culture should follow?

http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17218

 

[CurrencyChase]

http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17218

you done your homework..

 

[Sensei]

Seems like youre taking this conversation very personal.

You should have coughed up at least one book by now to share with us but have instead opted to just act condescending to devolve the convo. I believe the Google scholar here is you just in whatever direction you want history to cosign your imaginatiom

I'm not familiar with any work the nation of islam has written on the moors...

What book have you read on this subject or is your next post gonna be.
Yo mama so fat. Please stop derailing

The material you quote is from the likes of Nation of Islam and Five Percenters(5%s), who are known to twist facts and come with contrived findings. Like I said not to many people accept his kind of bogus history , people have been teaching this for years but this nonsense falls on def ears of the educated. Africans come across info like this and laugh too.You nikkas are just making bambling.

 

[Mowgli]

The material you quote is from the likes of Nation of Islam and Five Percenters(5%s), who are known to twist facts and come with contrived findings. Like I said not to many people accept his kind of bogus history , people have been teaching this for years but this nonsense falls on def ears of the educated. Africans come across info like this and laugh too.You nikkas are just making bambling.

It isn't but do you have a book or a source or what? If not I think it's time you left the conversation because you're trolling now and we're not going to put up with that

 

[Mowgli]

Jesus is as real as santa claus and the easter bunny. The letter J didn't even always exist! For the 1st 1400 years of christianty, the god they worshipped was Iesus ( pronounced as Hey Zuess). This god of the gauls (galations) existed centuries before christianity was invented, was part of a trinity and received lynched human beings as sacrifices (according to the NT Jesus was hung from a tree). Before the letter J was invented, the bibles even wrote his name as Iesus. The church of Ephesus, mentioned in the new testament is another reference to him. And the "Esphesians," which is another book in the bible, are his followers. The concept of this pagan god turned hebrew messiah was concocted by the court of Titus, a Roman leader (Titus and Roman's were both books of the NT as well) along with a group of evil jewish priest/scribes who wanted to turn the jews away from the faith. Read Jeremiah 8:8, 11:9, Ezekial 22:25, 1 Macabees 11-15).

The true Messiah was not who we recognize today as Jesus, but he was a man out of Judah who was born with the physical curse of his people's national sin of the transgression of the everlasting laws of YHWH. That is why no one wanted to look at him despite him speaking a pure message of YHWH, albeit with a tremendously afflicted speech impediment. Don't believe me? read Isaiah 53 and you can see for yourself. I believe the true messiah was murdered at the hand of europeans who had dominion over the Israelites and their religious leaders. So in a sense complicit blacks did lead the the death the messiah.

The Jews in Israel today are a mixture of converts. According to scripture, King David annexed Idumea and the Edomites (arabs) became jews, that today are considered sephardic jews. They remained in the area for the most part when the black jews were forced into exile into Africa in 70AD. Another type of Jew sprang up around the 7th century. White people in the caucus mountains went through a national conversion to the religion of the jews (though heavily corrupted). These white jews invaded europe, and after the holocaust, invaded the middle east where they are recognized as Ashkenazic Jews. So the majority of Jews in Israel today are converts, of either Sephardic or Ashkenazim origin, and their numbers in Israel are roughly equal. Outside of Israel, the numbers of Ashkenazim to Sephardic are like 80% to 20%, but in reality all of them are liars and false jews (read revelation 2:9 and 3:9). The old testament proves blacks of slave descent are the true Jews and Israelites, and so does historical evidence outside of the bible. Like i said, the Kingdom of Judah was exiled into Africa, as evidenced by this map constructed in the 1500s. (look right above the words "slave coast")

but not only did they live in the Kingdom of Judah, they had travelled entirely across africa from the east to the west via the Sahel corridor, and they were taken as slaves throughout their journey by Arabs and Africans and sold all over the world. From India to the Americas. Their customs still remain amongst the many of the africans they came in contact with, and you can see that for yourself as well. Until we as black people realize this, as well as the reasons why, we will continue to stay cursed, and the worst part of the curse is right around the corner, so its definitely time to WAKE UP!

Where did the word jew come from

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Some Moors were black, some were not whats the problem? They were all muslims and islam is a non-african ideology so i never understood this obsession with the moors some people have.

 

[bouncy]

Seems like youre taking this conversation very personal.

You should have coughed up at least one book by now to share with us but have instead opted to just act condescending to devolve the convo. I believe the Google scholar here is you just in whatever direction you want history to cosign your imaginatiom

I'm not familiar with any work the nation of islam has written on the moors...

What book have you read on this subject or is your next post gonna be.
Yo mama so fat. Please stop derailing

When people do the whole dis routine of "hotep brother" or dissing any type of black thinking group, you know they will never respect the information you offer them unless it came from a white person who they respect, so you are wasting time. I'm not saying those groups are always right, but, knowledge is knowledge, and people are people, so they will either tell a lie with some truth in it, or tell the truth the way they want it to be told. Your job is to dissect what is truth, and what is nonsense. You can tell people like sensei doesn't respect anything unless it goes along with what certain people say, I doubt he actually decipher the knowledge himself. He's is repeating what he heard or what someone told him, and if you disagree, and you are a pro black person, he will never listen to you. Just let him be.

 

[Mowgli]

When people do the whole dis routine of "hotep brother" or dissing any type of black thinking group, you know they will never respect the information you offer them unless it came from a white person who they respect, so you are wasting time. I'm not saying those groups are always right, but, knowledge is knowledge, and people are people, so they will either tell a lie with some truth in it, or tell the truth the way they want it to be told. Your job is to dissect what is truth, and what is nonsense. You can tell people like sensei doesn't respect anything unless it goes along with what certain people say, I doubt he actually decipher the knowledge himself. He's is repeating what he heard or what someone told him, and if you disagree, and you are a pro black person, he will never listen to you. Just let him be.

Well worse then that he's lying. He hasn't really researched the topic beyond keyword googling which is why he has no source and if he had one is afraid to give it because he doesn't want it's credibility and or facts picked apart in a more efficient way then he's doing. He doesn't want to build and add on. He wants to insult and be right. Markings of intellectual trolling

He should really be banned from the thread if he's not going to share information.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

This is something I've thought about often actually.

I asked one of the 5% cats on here one while he was going on about how black folks created white folks in a lab and then banished them to caves and superiority this and that...and I just ask him, if that's true how in the fukk did we lose the upper hand? And when we had the upper hand, with how much certainty can you say that we were civil to our cac slaves. Is all this just revenge? He's like

It was funny but it's def interesting to think about. Seems like with everything else in the universe shyt goes in cycles. I believe humanity can get off this wheel at some point.

According to them Moses went to the caves and civilized them and gave them eenough knowledge to rule for 6,000 years - masonry - 33 degrees, etc.

 

[bouncy]

Some Moors were black, some were not whats the problem? They were all muslims and islam is a non-african ideology so i never understood this obsession with the moors some people have.

You know there are a lot of people who will disagree with that. It may have not been African but it was black. From some of the stuff I heard, I think its just like Christianity, it had good origins, and from blacks in its concepts, then as time went on, it got tainted, twisted around, then used as a way to gain power for a specific group. I think if we go by the stories we are told today, we will never get the truth because so many people had time to twist things around. You can only get a glimpse of the truth by studying the original language, and study the history of the world at the beginning of whatever religion you are dealing with, then study the world before that time because that is what made the religion come to be. I think people focus too much on things after or during the time these religions spring up. That is not how you figure out how something came to be.


Studying history will make you go crazy though, because everyone disagrees on everything. You would think you have an answer, then someone comes along, and disproves it. Then people will either ignore it because they want their way to be right or just find ways to down play it. History is good to know for self esteem, and to prevent people form doing things like the Jews did to Palestine, and to know who your enemies are but, besides that, its not that serious. It's good to know, don't get me wrong but knowing science, and other physical things that effect you now, are more important.

I don't think its a coincidence religion is used to control people, because religion is basically a form of history.

 

[Sensei]

Some Moors were black, some were not whats the problem? They were all muslims and islam is a non-african ideology so i never understood this obsession with the moors some people have.

This is what people don't understand, THIS IS BASICALLY what I have been saying but people don't get it.Some Moors were black some weren't!

 

[GetInTheTruck]

You know there are a lot of people who will disagree with that. It may have not been African but it was black. From some of the stuff I heard, I think its just like Christianity, it had good origins, and from blacks in its concepts, then as time went on, it got tainted, twisted around, then used as a way to gain power for a specific group. I think if we go by the stories we are told today, we will never get the truth because so many people had time to twist things around. You can only get a glimpse of the truth by studying the original language, and study the history of the world at the beginning of whatever religion you are dealing with, then study the world before that time because that is what made the religion come to be. I think people focus too much on things after or during the time these religions spring up. That is not how you figure out how something came to be.

Studying history will make you go crazy though, because everyone disagrees on everything. You would think you have an answer, then someone comes along, and disproves it. Then people will either ignore it because they want their way to be right or just find ways to down play it. History is good to know for self esteem, and to prevent people form doing things like the Jews did to Palestine but, besides that, its not that serious. It's good to know, don't get me wrong but knowing science, and other physical things are more important.

I've said before that the abrahamic religions seem to have mixed things from Zoroastrianism as well as Egypt.

The monotheistic concept of God in judaism however has much more in common with Zoroastrian beliefs than it does with the the monotheism proposed by akhenaten.