Verzuz Present: SWV vs Xscape | 5/8 8PM ET

[Wacky D]

 

[spliz]

its revenge for the mannie fresh fiasco. i wouldnt even battle a southern artist if i was from the east coast, after that debacle.
i can understand it from that standpoint.

on the other hand, atlanta been trying to be the NEW new york for the longest. basically turning into everything they used to hate about new yorkers, even at the expense of low-balling other southern cities.
it will never work because they think they have way more clout/influence than they actually do, and arent respected like that.

their r&b is up there tho, but theyre gonna drag it down with the foolery.

Son that Mannie Fresh debacle ain’t have shyt to do with south vs East tho. That nikka Scott Storch was playing shyt from all over. Mannie was playing majority literally ONE group bruh. It’s a fukkin SHAME that Mannie didn’t get to step out and do more shyt for other people as dope as he is but it is what it is. And to add insult to injury the nikka was SUPER disrespectful during the battle. That was disgusting on Mannie’s part. And I 100% feel u on that ATL shyt. My issue ain’t with the South at all it’s SPECIFICALLY with how ATL been moving for years now.

 

[Budda]

This.

People underestimate Total because they weren't exactly known for vocal prowess. They have a lot of classic songs ranging from features to their own work. They have like continuous flow of classics from 1995 through 1998:

Can't You See

No One Else

Kissing You (and the remix which is like a whole other song)

What About Us

Trippin

Sitting Home

Features:

Juicy

One More Chance (original)

Loungin

Hypnotize

They should go against 702

 

[Jplaya2023]

Nah.....I've listened to podcasts where producers and writers have openly said they couldn't sing worth a shyt. Lot of post production done to make them albums sound good

In VZ song quality >>>> Singer quality

 

[Jplaya2023]

They should go against 702

Lol what thats an insult to total

702 can vs blaque or some shyt

 

[BmoreGorilla]

This.

People underestimate Total because they weren't exactly known for vocal prowess. They have a lot of classic songs ranging from features to their own work. They have like continuous flow of classics from 1995 through 1998:

Can't You See

No One Else

Kissing You (and the remix which is like a whole other song)

What About Us

Trippin

Sitting Home

Features:

Juicy

One More Chance (original)

Loungin

Hypnotize

Those songs you named is all they got tho. Total can give you a strong 30 minutes and it’s show over

 

[Woodwerkz]

They should go against 702

I think it's time for team vs... for those that can't get to 11 or 12 songs themselves but had some heat.

Get on some Midnight Express vs Road Warriors shyt.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

this is false.

youre speaking from a hometown standpoint, which i understand.

but when you talk about putting something on the map, JD was the main face of atlanta to your average hip-hop fan.
people also thought da brat was from atlanta because of JD.

when people thought atlanta hip-hop, the first thing that came to mind was so so def. JD put it on the map.





quality-wise, its up there for debate.

some of the biggest '90s semi-underground slow jams are on there.
and the rest of the album bangs str8 thru.

its certainly better than some of the mainstream albums that are propped up as classics.

plus, in a versus, they stole the show on keith sweat's two biggest mainstream hits.

You right. JD was absolutely the face of ATL. Kriss Kross was a big deal and so was their story about how a young JD discovered them in the mall and how he used to be a dancer for Whodini and his father was in the industry. Only other group who made any noise from that city was ABC but that was Michael Bivins group

 

[JustCKing]

You right. JD was absolutely the face of ATL. Kriss Kross was a big deal and so was their story about how a young JD discovered them in the mall and how he used to be a dancer for Whodini and his father was in the industry. Only other group who made any noise from that city was ABC but that was Michael Bivins group

See this is the history rewrite because ya'll know full well JD was NEVER the face of ATL. JD has spent his a lot of his career being underrated because he stood in the shadows of other ATL artists even some of the artists he helped put on. Nobody ever looked at Jermaine Dupri as the face of Atlanta the way they look at OutKast, Lil' Jon, Usher, T.I., Jeezy or even a Gucci Mane.

Yes, the story of how Kriss Kross being discovered was something that was widely talked about, but it wasn't BECAUSE of JD, it was because THEY WERE DISCOVERED AT A MALL. The fact that you don't even note that it was Greenbriar Mall further pushes my point home. In 1992, who really cared that it was JD or a Greenbriar Mall. Kriss Kross was the reason JD became known. Yes, he produced the group, but JD wasn't the household name, Kriss Kross was. JD wasn't guesting on A Different World, Kriss Kross was. JD wasn't in the video for Michael Jackson's "Jam", Kriss Kross was.

And while we're at it, with all this talk about JD putting Atlanta, he wasn't even the biggest producer in the city at that point. Ya'll completely overlook Dallas Austin when he produced the bulk of TLC's debut. While Boyz II Men definitely isn't Atlanta, Dallas helmed their debut as well. Dallas Austin also produced Another Bad Creation, which as mentioned is an Atlanta group. They blew before Kriss Kross came out. I'm not saying Dallas Austin put Atlanta on either, but if you're gonna say Jermaine Dupri, you might as well throw Dallas in there too.

Point of it all, is that I'm willing to bet most of you NEVER associated Jermaine Dupri with Atlanta until '94/'95 ish, which by then Kast had taken off and they were unmistakably ATL. You didn't have to read a press release, interview, or research where they were from. Their videos were shot in Atlanta. Their slang was Atlanta. They wore the Braves jerseys and caps. If you'd never set foot in Atlanta, one listen to Southernplayalistic gave you a tour of the different hoods and night spots in Atlanta and the whole culture and feel of the city.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I think it's time for team vs... for those that can't get to 11 or 12 songs themselves but had some heat.

Get on some Midnight Express vs Road Warriors shyt.

There are still tons of vz with people who can get to 20, even if regionally. Not everyone who had 3 hot singles and two albums needs to be on vz

 

[BmoreGorilla]

See this is the history rewrite because ya'll know full well JD was NEVER the face of ATL. JD has spent his a lot of his career being underrated because he stood in the shadows of other ATL artists even some of the artists he helped put on. Nobody ever looked at Jermaine Dupri as the face of Atlanta the way they look at OutKast, Lil' Jon, Usher, T.I., Jeezy or even a Gucci Mane.

Yes, the story of how Kriss Kross being discovered was something that was widely talked about, but it wasn't BECAUSE of JD, it was because THEY WERE DISCOVERED AT A MALL. The fact that you don't even note that it was Greenbriar Mall further pushes my point home. In 1992, who really cared that it was JD or a Greenbriar Mall. Kriss Kross was the reason JD became known. Yes, he produced the group, but JD wasn't the household name, Kriss Kross was. JD wasn't guesting on A Different World, Kriss Kross was. JD wasn't in the video for Michael Jackson's "Jam", Kriss Kross was.

And while we're at it, with all this talk about JD putting Atlanta, he wasn't even the biggest producer in the city at that point. Ya'll completely overlook Dallas Austin when he produced the bulk of TLC's debut. While Boyz II Men definitely isn't Atlanta, Dallas helmed their debut as well. Dallas Austin also produced Another Bad Creation, which as mentioned is an Atlanta group. They blew before Kriss Kross came out. I'm not saying Dallas Austin put Atlanta on either, but if you're gonna say Jermaine Dupri, you might as well throw Dallas in there too.

Point of it all, is that I'm willing to bet most of you NEVER associated Jermaine Dupri with Atlanta until '94/'95 ish, which by then Kast had taken off and they were unmistakably ATL. You didn't have to read a press release, interview, or research where they were from. Their videos were shot in Atlanta. Their slang was Atlanta. They wore the Braves jerseys and caps. If you'd never set foot in Atlanta, one listen to Southernplayalistic gave you a tour of the different hoods and night spots in Atlanta and the whole culture and feel of the city.

Kriss Kross is absolutely the reason JD got known but it went hand in hand. The magazines like Word Up stayed talking about JD. Matter fact he’d be in the pics all with them like he was the third member

 

[BmoreGorilla]

They need to get a Mary and Mariah matchup going on some queens of R&B shyt. I woulda loved to see Mary and Kells but that ain’t happening for obvious reasons

 

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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Coco > Xscape as a group

 

[Jplaya2023]

They need to get a Mary and Mariah matchup going on some queens of R&B shyt. I woulda loved to see Mary and Kells but that ain’t happening for obvious reasons

Kellz playing the songs he wrote and produced for mary against mary. Lol!