(Update)Incels and redpillers finally got a win.Captain Marvel 2:The Marvels opened to 47 million over the weekend.Making it MCU worst opening ever.

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They have planted seeds for Xmen......spoiler.

I know you’re talking about…
The post-credits scene with Beast, right?

Not gonna lie I just watched that mess on YouTube, saved 20 bucks, and kept it moving.

If they get X-men right, they’ll eat good for another 15 years no problem.

Just bring in the fan favorite characters and keep all the best elements that worked from the Claremont comic books and the 90s cartoon series and they’ll be straight.
 

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What you mean misinterpreted? My only point is, and I’m standing on it, more people have at least heard of Cap, Thor, BP etc than Captain Marvel or any of these rogue gallery B list comic heroes marvel trying to push. The animated shows did a lot for saving Marvel back in the day when comic sales plummeted.

Blade had more clout than BP? :dwillhuh:

Y’all bugging the fukk out. Anyone with a pulse knows or at least has heard about these characters. I’m not saying they know he wears a vibranium suit and gets his powers from a mystical plant but audiences were 100% aware of Black Panther and his place in Marvel. It matters, my whole point is people are more likely to see a movie about say Cyclops because they’ve heard of him than these characters Marvel has been trotting out. You’re not going to convince me no one’s heard of certain characters they could be using.
:mjlol: Yes…and no one is rushing out to see a solo Cyclops movie lol. If it’s not a Wolverine or X-men movie.
 

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:mjlol: Yes…and no one is rushing out to see a solo Cyclops movie lol. If it’s not a Wolverine or X-men movie.
You’re wrong and I think most people would agree. And yes a Cyclops Marvel movie 100% would wash a Captain Marvel movie. That’s my point, any of the XMen would bc they are official. We just saw Deadpool, who again has notoriety outside of comics, prove people wrong with success (not to mention just a very well made movie). Agree to disagree.
 

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Guardians yeah but Captain America are 80 and 60 year old characters that have been in all kinds of videogames, tv shows, tv movies, movies, cartoons and that's not even getting into their actual comic books. Y'all can't seriously compare them to Captain Marvel a character that was basically created 15 years ago.
nikkas wylin. Really trying to say Cap, Thor, BP…characters that printed Marvel money before they parents even nutted them out weren’t well known to the general public

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They should've changed their game plan once the Fox deal was finalized in 2019. No disrespect to Jonathan Majors (great actor,) but I have never given a ____ about Kang the Conqueror. He wouldn't even be in my top 15 Marvel villains if we're being honest.

Yeah, Doom would be a way better fit as an overarching villain. It’s a shame he’s not in the MCU yet.

Kang could have been alright if Phases 4 and 5 were planned better. This is why they should have kept Reed Richard’s around… he would have broken down how the multiverse works so that the audience could understand it, then there would be some actual stakes.

On top of that, let’s keep it 100… if Kang is catching L’s against Ant-man and the Wasp, then he is not credible as an Avengers-level threat (No disrespect to Jonathan Majors, he’s an excellent actor).
:mjlol: Yes…and no one is rushing out to see a solo Cyclops movie lol. If it’s not a Wolverine or X-men movie.

Cyclops ain’t built for a solo movie but he’s still a more legit character than people think. He puts in work in the comics (Proteus, Dark Phoenix, God Loves Man Kills, Astonishing X-men, etc). Cyclops stayed sonning Wolverine on the regular.

A lot of people tend to write Cyclops off as a one-note teachers pet and a cop because they never read the books and they ONLY know Scott as the dude who got punched for leaving Morph in the cartoon series.
 
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nikkas wylin. Really trying to say Cap, Thor, BP…characters that printed Marvel money before they parents even nutted them out weren’t well known to the general public

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It's that condescending, "everyone ain't nerds like y'all" attitude you see prevalent on here but the irony is that it shows that they are more out of touch with the masses than we are.

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Ghostface Killa aka "Tony Stark".
 

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It's that condescending, "everyone ain't nerds like y'all" attitude you see prevalent on here but the irony is that it shows that they are more out of touch with the masses than we are.

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Ghostface Killa aka "Tony Stark".
Talk to these nikkas man :wow:

Like I feel like I’m for real in an alternate reality in here sometimes.
 

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You’re wrong and I think most people would agree. And yes a Cyclops move 100% would wash a Captain Marvel move. That’s my point. We just saw Deadpool, who again has notoriety outside of comics, prove people wrong with success. Agree to disagree.
You was arguing that the ip/character matters when it doesn’t that’s my point. The mcu created household names out of b-d list characters. They made audiences care more about a talking racc00n and tree than Superman. The entire mcu was started off the back of a lesser known character lol.
 

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Yeah, Doom would be a way better fit as an overarching villain. It’s a shame he’s not in the MCU yet.

Kang could have been alright if Phases 4 and 5 were planned better. This is why they should have kept Reed Richard’s around… he would have broken down how the multiverse works so that the audience could understand it, then there would be some actual stakes.

On top of that, let’s keep it 100… if Kang is catching L’s against Ant-man and the Wasp, then he is not credible as an Avengers-level threat (No disrespect to Jonathan Majors, he’s an excellent actor).


Cyclops ain’t built for a solo movie but he’s still a more legit character than people think. He puts in work in the comics (Proteus, Dark Phoenix, God Loves Man Kills, Astonishing X-men, etc). Cyclops stayed sonning Wolverine on the regular.

A lot of people tend to write Cyclops off as a one-note teachers pet and a cop because they never read the books and they ONLY know Scott as the dude who got punched for leaving Morph in the cartoon series.
:mjlol: You just proved my point
 

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It's that condescending, "everyone ain't nerds like y'all" attitude you see prevalent on here but the irony is that it shows that they are more out of touch with the masses than we are.

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Ghostface Killa aka "Tony Stark".
These dudes were all over saturday morning cartoons, Kids used to beg for lunch boxes. and stuff back in the 70s and 80s.

Carol Danvers was dead in marvel comics for most of the 80s and wasn't really given that push as a main character in the comics until 2012.
Nobody grew up a captain marvel fan. The studio is trying to push that themselves.

My dad was a comics fan in the 70s. he knows all about the x-men and avengers and stuff. But Ms Marvel was a complete unknown for him.
 

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You was arguing that the ip/character matters when it doesn’t that’s my point. The mcu created household names out of b-d list characters. They made audiences care more about a talking racc00n and tree than Superman. The entire mcu was started off the back of a lesser known character lol.
No. My entire point was the formulas was to ride your well known characters, which leaves space for the lesser well known to shine. Marvel has NOT done that since EndGame ended. No Cap, No IronMan, No TChalla, No Hulk, no success. Those are not lesser known characters :wtf:

They have so many other heavy hitters they could use and aren’t, yet. They need to go back to the winning formula
 

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Talk to these nikkas man :wow:

Like I feel like I’m for real in an alternate reality in here sometimes.

I've had more than one poster try to argue that I'm "mentally disturbed" for liking comics in my adult life. (Who do you think makes them? Kids?)
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Same nikkas who probably listen to MF DOOM, Ghostface Killah, and Kendrick Lamar unironically. :mjlol:
 
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Guardians yeah but Captain America are 80 and 60 year old characters that have been in all kinds of videogames, tv shows, tv movies, movies, cartoons and that's not even getting into their actual comic books. Y'all can't seriously compare them to Captain Marvel a character that was basically created 15 years ago.

To be fair, the character of Carol Danvers was created in the 60s-70s; she went by Ms Marvel then.
 

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Moviegoers instantly had reason to see them on film bc they cared about those characters and they knew of them. Character recognition important. Marvel didn’t take in money catering only to hardcore fans. Use your recognizable IP, not whatever the fukk they doing now
No one was playing Captain America in class
Iron Man, yeah, but he wasn't Xmen popping
 
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