(Update)Incels and redpillers finally got a win.Captain Marvel 2:The Marvels opened to 47 million over the weekend.Making it MCU worst opening ever.

[Formerly Black Trash]

They play the games and watch the kid friendly versions of them on YouTube. It’s for kids. Why shouldn’t it be? Why cater to adults like there’s a lack of adult oriented fantasy? Not everything has to be ceded to millennials and GenZ

What the dude you replied to said didn't have to do much with kids, it was just hemophilia and racism

I don't think things need to be lesser quality because it's for kids

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

A lot of talking in here but essentially Marvel is making movies for characters no one gives a fukk about except hardcore comic fans. Captain Marvel is not a fukking draw. Shang Chi, Morbius

Like the formula was make movies with your big hitters. Fill in the rest with some lesser knowns. Making this shyt difficult for no reason.

Neither was Captain America, the Guardians, or Iron Man

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

I don't think things need to be lesser quality because it's for kids

Exactly.

 

[MalaKai]

They should have gone straight into Fantastic Four after Endgame.

Recast T’challa, bring Blade into the picture earlier, and start planting the seeds for X-men.

Also, Love and Thunder never should have happened. That joint should have been a Thor versus Beta Ray Bill movie.

They have planted seeds for Xmen......spoiler.

 

[OneManGang]

Neither was Captain America, the Guardians, or Iron Man

These were very recognizable characters to even the layman. You can’t say Iron Man and Cap weren’t well known. Maybe in the comic world they fell off but they’re two of Marvels biggest IPs ever. I’ll give you Guardians but they fit the formula…lesser knowns in between your stars to fit a narrative. They fit the cosmic roles.

 

[Apollo Creed]

The problem is

Avengers story BEEN OVER.

Since Endgame.

They fukced up when they tried to keep running with it like it was a money tree that they could shake endlessly.

Not superhero movies in general, but kept pushing Avengers like they been doing Star Wars. With similar, shytty results.

After Endgame.. maybe flesh out the Spiderman series while they had the opportunity. Even go all the way in with Venom and these other Spider villains they tryna make movies for (the difference, include Spiderman).. but let the overall Avengers shyt rest.

Guardians 3 was legit. No Way Home was tight. In retrospect, every other series or flick was the middle of mid, at best.

Just like the Infinity Saga, their next move should have been starting from the beginning with a different group. X Men, for instance. I know the timing was tricky but they could have even froze EVERYTHING once they got the Fox properties and worked on the new series.

If they could have stopped Avengers and restarted with X Men. Even a couple years later that shyt would have killed the game AGAIN.

If they didn't have the X-Men issues with legacy contracts

I woulda had one group of movies/shows lead to an x men flick and the other group lead to avengers and then an avengers vs x men movie

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

These were very recognizable characters to even the layman. You can’t say Iron Man and Cap weren’t well known. Maybe in the comic world they fell off but they’re two of Marvels biggest IPs ever. I’ll give you Guardians but they fit the formula…lesser knowns in between your stars to fit a narrative. They fit the cosmic roles.

These dudes were not popping

Recognizable but not popping

 

[Roid Jones]

61% male even tho disney has been shoving strong forced female leads down our throats (pause) we still show up unlike the audience they pander for.

When will these execs get it through their heads that scoring good point on twitter means nothing for their bottom line. Make a good story and it wont matter if it's a female or male lead.

ALL WE WANT IS A GOOD STORY.

they fukked it up themselves

Exactly it's like the execs have forgotten that people go to the cinema to be entertained

 

[Roid Jones]

A lot of talking in here but essentially Marvel is making movies for characters no one gives a fukk about except hardcore comic fans. Captain Marvel is not a fukking draw. Shang Chi, Morbius

Like the formula was make movies with your big hitters. Fill in the rest with some lesser knowns. Making this shyt difficult for no reason.

The characters selected is not the problem it's the poor product they're placed in

 

[The Pledge]

I aint watched any MCU content after endgame

This is the problem with MCU.

Majority of the fan base is in this camp, myself included outside of the final Spider-Man.

They should have slow stroked endgame

 

[OneManGang]

These dudes were not popping

Recognizable but not popping

These were very recognizable characters to even the layman. You can’t say Iron Man and Cap weren’t well known. Maybe in the comic world they fell off but they’re two of Marvels biggest IPs ever. I’ll give you Guardians but they fit the formula…lesser knowns in between your stars to fit a narrative. They fit the cosmic roles.

Moviegoers instantly had reason to see them on film bc they cared about those characters and they knew of them. Character recognition important. Marvel didn’t take in money catering only to hardcore fans. Use your recognizable IP, not whatever the fukk they doing now

 

[the elastic]

At this point, I'd rather read an actual comic book than watch a movie about one.

The Boys and Invincible are the only Comic to Screen contents I'm interested in watching these days.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

At some point, people gotta stop harping on the narrative that bringing in the X-Men the previous few years would have solved Marvel's problems as they would have ran in to the same issues that the current iteration is. Disney would have made the same mistake in oversaturating the product like some of mentioned years ago in spreading the content between movies and TV shows and already shytty CGI would have been even worse. The narrative would have then shifted as to how could Disney have fumbled the X-Men.

This flop was the best thing that could have happened to them as now they can fix the issues currently plaguing them before bringing in the X-Men.

 

[Roid Jones]

Oppenheimer making close to a billion was a game changer

And Barbie, those were event movies and had a must see aura, Marvel films no longer feel that way and people now know to wait for films to hit D+

 

[Roid Jones]

Neither was Captain America, the Guardians, or Iron Man

Exactly, people love to spin history but those characters were always B/C level up until recent times