(Update)Incels and redpillers finally got a win.Captain Marvel 2:The Marvels opened to 47 million over the weekend.Making it MCU worst opening ever.

[VertigoKnight]

It's a new era at the box office but movies like Mario, Barbie, Oppenheimer show you can still get people in the theaters if you have something that they feel they need to see right away.

Agree. And that's the big difference. Whose rushing to see The Marvels?

Look at Barbie it could he argued that the 'incels' and 'redpillers' had major problems with that movie more than the Marvel's and the general audience didn't give a fukk what they thought as it grossed over a Billi.

Because people were excited by it and thus it pushed people towards the cinema for the opening weekend. And the weeks afterwards. It was an event. People didn't want to miss out.

The issue with the Marvel's is there is a real lack of interest in it full stop. In the age of social media there is no excuse that people don't know its coming, this is a MCU movie. People just aren't into it.

I'd say to people, remember when if you didn't get your tickets early for a MCU film you'd have to risk getting garbage seats for the first week.

I went to look at The Marvel's screenings at a couple of cinemas near me. Three different screenings per day Premium, Screen X and normal seating. And the all important evening screenings for all three are practically empty on opening night. That's crazy.

 

[O.Red]

Not really. Brie Larson is hated by a segment of the Internet. I don't remember what she said to piss them though

Honestly the Brie hate is part on Brie part on Marvel, and Marvel deserves a good chunk of the blame

When people rag on Captain Marvel it's not completely about the movie, because honestly the movie is not bad at all. It's not even a bottom 5 MCU movie. It has a few feminist tropes but it's not as overbearing as you'd assume going in

One of the main reasons Captain Marvel gets the hate it does is because Marvel baited nikkas into watching it by sandwiching it between Infinity War and Endgame knowing nikkas would flock to the theaters just for more information. This is why nikkas put an asterisk on that billy it grossed.

Put that same movie out during phase 2 and it doesn't get a quarter of the hate it does now. Marvel was wrong for doing that shyt and are still feeling the effects of it today

Also during that initial press run Brie Larson was just being annoying Larson went through a phase of being very standoffish and sour and I believe its because she had an encounter in her early Hollywood run where nikkas tried to Weinstein her because she was on a "I hate white men" rampage during those years. In recent years she's lightened up a lot so I assume she's gotten over that bitterness

From what I've seen of her overall she seems like cool people but when she's around Marvel you can tell she's going through it. She's definitely the type to read comments all night and make aliases to respond to random nikkas

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Agree. And that's the big difference. Whose rushing to see The Marvels?

Look at Barbie it could he argued that the 'incels' and 'redpillers' had major problems with that movie more than the Marvel's and the general audience didn't give a fukk what they thought as it grossed over a Billi.

Because people were excited by it and thus it pushed people towards the cinema for the opening weekend. And the weeks afterwards. It was an event. People didn't want to miss out.

The issue with the Marvel's is there is a real lack of interest in it full stop. In the age of social media there is no excuse that people don't know its coming, this is a MCU movie. People just aren't into it.

I'd say to people, remember when if you didn't get your tickets early for a MCU film you'd have to risk getting garbage seats for the first week.

I went to look at The Marvel's screenings at a couple of cinemas near me. Three different screenings per day Premium, Screen X and normal seating. And the all important evening screenings for all three are practically empty on opening night. That's crazy.

I agree and saying "well.... Ant-Man 3 was in the top ten...." that's like saying Meg Thee Stallion sold 100k in her first week so the number must be good. It doesn't work like that. Big huge Hollywood tentpoles PAY for the right to show their movies all over the place, in the most theaters and on the biggest screens. They pay for that access to IMAX and PLF screens etc...

It's almost impossible for a Hollywood tentpole to not finish somewhere in the top 20 on a given year because of how much money goes into the advertising.

But this isn't a thread about Ant-Man 3, The Marvels might actually do worse than that. We'll see..

 

[Apollo Creed]

I agree and saying "well.... Ant-Man 3 was in the top ten...." that's like saying Meg Thee Stallion sold 100k in her first week so the number must be good. It doesn't work like that. Big huge Hollywood tentpoles PAY for the right to show their movies all over the place, in the most theaters and on the biggest screens. They pay for that access to IMAX and PLF screens etc...

It's almost impossible for a Hollywood tentpole to not finish somewhere in the top 20 on a given year because of how much money goes into the advertising.

But this isn't a thread about Ant-Man 3, The Marvels might actually do worse than that. We'll see..

they saying this shyt finna flop harder than Flash. Prob gonna be on Disney + ASAP lmfao

 

[Mortal1]

It’s weird to see this kind of reaction to captain marvel who is legitimately this strong and massive part of the marvel/avengers ethos. If the problem is that the stories have sucked that’s one thing but this “feminist agenda”

Captain marvel is pound for pound one of the most powerful characters in the marvel universe this isn’t some kind of lie about what she can do to boost her abilities.

Carol Danvers is also just a boring character and neither the movies or comics ever did anything to address that.

This is mainly the problem she was never popping like that and they haven’t written her in an engaging way.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

This is mainly the problem she was never popping like that and they haven’t written her in an engaging way.

They did a good job addressing this with Thor by essentially creating a different character completely. Problem is they never took that step with Danvers who is way more in need of it than Thor was. There's good shyt out there with Thor in the comics. I can't think of a single interesting version of Carol from the comics.

Which is probably why they put her in a movie with two actual interesting characters. It's also no coincidence that best parts of the first movie involved Danvers and Fury in a like a buddy cop type situation. Maybe they give Larson more creative freedom in this one with the character? It can't hurt to do so

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

They did a good job addressing this with Thor by essentially creating a different character completely. Problem is they never took that step with Danvers who is way more in need of it than Thor was. There's good shyt out there with Thor in the comics. I can't think of a single interesting version of Carol from the comics.

Which is probably why they put her in a movie with two actual interesting characters. It's also no coincidence that best parts of the first movie involved Danvers and Fury in a like a buddy cop type situation. Maybe they give Larson my creative freedom in this one with the character? It can't hurt to do so

Best example is Miles Morales
All his comics runs were trash
Took Spider-Verse to make him cool

 

[hex]

It's been bad for some movies and great for others. It's all about the bottom line. I don't think studios have figured out the high costs vs. box office potential yet for many of these films. It's a new era at the box office but movies like Mario, Barbie, Oppenheimer show you can still get people in the theaters if you have something that they feel they need to see right away.

I agree and saying "well.... Ant-Man 3 was in the top ten...." that's like saying Meg Thee Stallion sold 100k in her first week so the number must be good. It doesn't work like that. Big huge Hollywood tentpoles PAY for the right to show their movies all over the place, in the most theaters and on the biggest screens. They pay for that access to IMAX and PLF screens etc...

It's almost impossible for a Hollywood tentpole to not finish somewhere in the top 20 on a given year because of how much money goes into the advertising.

But this isn't a thread about Ant-Man 3, The Marvels might actually do worse than that. We'll see..

No, it's like a pop star ("Antman 3") under performing, the music industry being down 20-25%....and you counter with Griselda ("The Nun 2") is doing well.

It's like....ok, I guess?

A low budget horror movie being profitable means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

"Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning" did $567 million on a $291 million budget. "The Little Mermaid" did $569 million on a $296 million budget. A lot of movies under performed this year, I don't understand your fixation with Antman.

Fred.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

No, it's like a pop star ("Antman 3") under performing, the music industry being down 20-25%....and you counter with Griselda ("The Nun 2") is doing well.

It's like....ok, I guess?

A low budget horror movie being profitable means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

"Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning" did $567 million on a $291 million budget. "The Little Mermaid" did $569 million on a $296 million budget. A lot of movies under performed this year, I don't understand your fixation with Antman.

Fred.

I don't have a fixation on it. There's more Marvel threads made here than "The Little Mermaid" which I did also call a flop and I wouldn't say a low budget horror being profitable means "nothing" because that Conjuring franchise is one of the most profitable franchises around...

They are routinely turning $10-20M projects into huge profits for the studio. Tentpoles are supposed to do that and Ant-Man 3 didn't.

 

[Roid Jones]

Marvel is on a roll of L's, long may it continue

#Scorsesewon

 

[KillerB88]

This is the change that is needed for them, imo

Another "heroine".

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Another "heroine".

Is that your issue with it? The trailer looks dope and way more harder edge than anything else Disney Marvel has produced

 

[KillerB88]

Is that your issue with it? The trailer looks dope and way more harder edge than anything else Disney Marvel has produced

It's hamfisted. Almost EVERY new character has been female. Their gender is not necessarily the issue-- but let's be real. Stop trying to give us an army of hyper-intelligent world-saving Sarah Connors. In reality, that's not the case. They're just throwing a bunch of teenage girls in the mix and making them the new face of Marvel. Why is it so hard to admit no one really wants to see that? I'll repeat. NO ONE REALLY WANTS TO SEE THAT! Well written strong female characters do best sprinkled in with strong well-written male characters. And there's a ratio that tends to work. And what makes it worse is how ridiculously they dumb down the men to make the women shine. Its like lowering the damn hoop. In the original saga we saw characters like Pepper shine even in scenes with Tony where you knew she could get shyt done. Same with when they debuted Natasha. Same with Maria Hill and the Fury dynamic. Gamora. Nebula... the list goes on. Edit: Even the way the royal guard for Wakanda was initially presented was top notch.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

It's hamfisted. Almost EVERY new character has been female. Their gender is not necessarily the issue-- but let's be real. Stop trying to give us an army of hyper-intelligent world-saving Sarah Connors. In reality, that's not the case. They're just throwing a bunch of teenage girls in the mix and making them the new face of Marvel. Why is it so hard to admit no one really wants to see that? I'll repeat. NO ONE REALLY WANTS TO SEE THAT! Well written strong female characters do best sprinkled in with strong well-written male characters. And there's a ratio that tends to work. And what makes it worse is how ridiculously they dumb down the men to make the women shine. Its like lowering the damn hoop. In the original saga we saw characters like Pepper shine even in scenes with Tony where you knew she could get shyt done. Same with when they debuted Natasha. Same with Maria Hill and the Fury dynamic. Gamora. Nebula... the list goes on. Edit: Even the way the royal guard for Wakanda was initially presented was top notch.

Sounds like ur issue is with the stories not the characters which is really what’s at the heart of the issue with marvel stuff right now not names guardians of the galaxy, Loki or spider man

 

[HipHopStan]

REPOST:

When the MCU films flop, there all kinds of juelzing. No smoke, no pushback, no vitriol.

You look at the Flash threads recently? And the Black Adam ones? All kinds of posters were shytting on their Box office flops and underperformances.

Which is first and foremost why I'm rooting for this motherfukking piece of shyt movie to flop. I know those MCU stans were all up in those threads acting like the obnoxious c*nts they are and celebrating like they had won a national championship when in reality Black Adam, Flash, and Blue Beetle flopping just hurt comic book movies in general and it was nothing to relish over. As their daddy Kevin Fiege once said, "When the (DC) movies perform well and are well received, it’s good for all of us – which is why I’m always rooting for them." But these strictly MCU stans don't want to hear that though. If this film does as bad as analysts say it is, then this will be some well-deserved karma. fukk them and fukk this movie.