Until the Black Man becomes Discipline blacks gloablly will always be a joke.

[mcdivit85]

Real shyt right here. You may or may not know this, but Hitler also had a similar belief, which was part of the reason why his party rose to supreme power. From one of his speeches: "Again it must be that all decent Germans become National Socialists. [But] Only the best National Socialists become party members." It's all about the elites doing the bulk of the work for the masses.

How does that work when the black elite tend to want a place at the white table? Moreso than wanting to build amongst the black masses. When being "black elite" is tied to how close you are to important white people.

The whole "elite pulling up the masses" line only works if the elite work for the betterment of their community...not for a paycheck at their oppressor's corporation.

Peace

 

[Audemar]

How does that work when the black elite tend to want a place at the white table? Moreso than wanting to build amongst the black masses. When being "black elite" is tied to how close you are to important white people.

The whole "elite pulling up the masses" line only works if the elite work for the betterment of their community...not for a paycheck at their oppressor's corporation.

Peace

That is about conditioning, which is a different subject. We first have to change the collective mentally of Black people first, an arduous task no doubt. By now, I hope you have seen the following:

 

[mcdivit85]

My problem is how can he and most others on this site start a movement when they don't have lives, achievements, etc, people would follow them for? Like Hova said you can't help the poor if you one of them.

Who, on this site, has such cache as to be followed? Are you that one? I'm seriously asking.

Peace

 

[mcdivit85]

That is about conditioning, which is a different subject. We first have to change the collective mentally of Black people first, an arduous task no doubt. By now, I hope you have seen the following:

I've seen it. And yes, we are all conditioned under racism/white supremacy.

Are you insinuating that "elite" is not tied to money. wealth or status? That it's tied to "knowledge"?

Peace

 

[Audemar]

I've seen it. And yes, we are all conditioned under racism/white supremacy.

Are you insinuating that "elite" is not tied to money. wealth or status? That it's tied to "knowledge"?

Peace

Bro, what are you talking about man? And yes, knowledge in terms of knowing how to function within a system is one example why "elite" people are "elite. " If you want to win, you won. Happy?

 

[MajorVitaman]

Because whites and other people are so much more well disciplined.

Who was killing and pillaging to gain control of the world?

fukk what cacs are doing we all know they're crazy

We have to stop comparing ourselves to our degenerate, culture lacking cave children. We must set the bar higher

 

[Apollo Creed]

Just one problem with your logic. Black people are held in high regards outside of America. Sure a few places in Spain, England, just Europe as a whole got their racist but generally American blacks are seen as the leaders of blacks around the world. We are the most influential group of people in this world.

High regard for entertainment that we dont own 100%

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yea it is very diverse. That's why I couldn't cosign you saying lack discipline is the main reason of us being conquered over millenia in the OP

Never said it was the main reason. Even stated Im not referring to the systematic laws that were created ie. jim crow. This thread is purely about what we can control, and how we get caught in traps that are avoidable. I even mention that lack of discipline has been conditioned but even then those of us who acknowledge that still make excuses on why we will not become discipline ie. Cats arguing in this thread and those saying discipline is a non factor in making progress.

You can never find a military in history that was not discipline. Im am not talking about waging physical war but more so reffering to the black man mastering himself and fuffilling his destiny as the leader/warrior class of the community.

 

[Mike Ock]

High regard for entertainment that we dont own 100%

Bingo.

Dudes thought I was bugging for not a praising a 21 yr old just graduating hs.

 

[Wild self]

I blame the lack of long term planning for wealth. Too many brehs and brehettes want to party, splurge, and live like rich black entertainers than to be modest people that open their own businesses and give them Property

 

[Doobie Doo]

High regard for entertainment that we dont own 100%

They don't give a fukk, Do you think they are in awe of Lebron James or Dan Gilbert?

 

[PoPimp84]

Never said it was the main reason. Even stated Im not referring to the systematic laws that were created ie. jim crow. This thread is purely about what we can control, and how we get caught in traps that are avoidable. I even mention that lack of discipline has been conditioned but even then those of us who acknowledge that still make excuses on why we will not become discipline ie. Cats arguing in this thread and those saying discipline is a non factor in making progress.

You can never find a military in history that was not discipline. Im am not talking about waging physical war but more so reffering to the black man mastering himself and fuffilling his destiny as the leader/warrior class of the community.

Either way if cats agree or not its good to have the discussion because its been some good points made in this thread. Props

 

[philmonroe]

Who, on this site, has such cache as to be followed? Are you that one? I'm seriously asking.

Peace

You're not seriously asking your bullshytting like a chick on some passive aggressive stuff and would be better off by being honest instead of doing that sucker shyt fam. How the fukk am I supposed to know who has cache to be followed? Let me ask you a better question why are you acting as if you're stupid and can't understand what the fukk I said in context? Also would you take advice from a bum on how to be a millionaire? My point is don't tell people to do all this stuff when you aren't even an example of that yourself. People want to see results esp when telling them the shyt they doing is wrong or "talking down" to people. When you see me with threads on how everybody should do this, that, and the other with no proof I'm using said tactics to benefit me then your question would be actually valid.

 

[PhonZhi]

That is about conditioning, which is a different subject. We first have to change the collective mentally of Black people first, an arduous task no doubt.

Thank You. Everybody seems to want to skip over this part. Place the carriage before the horse so to speak. We can list all the solutions we want, but if our collective mindstate isn't geared towards one objective then it wont matter. Not everybody of course, but enough to make a dent. Strenght is in numbers. We need a mass shift in consciousness towards "black pride" "black love" & "black unity". We need it to where black ppl ON A MASS SCALE are willing to die & sacrifice for the betterment of the future of black america. The solutions will naturally happen after we break free of these mental shackles. Our enemies know this and thats why they push ignorant propaganda on us so heavily.

 

[PhonZhi]

fukk what cacs are doing we all know they're crazy

We have to stop comparing ourselves to our degenerate, culture lacking cave children. We must set the bar higher

Yep. Cats STAY with the "well white people do it too"