Until the Black Man becomes Discipline blacks gloablly will always be a joke.

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A whole lot of shyt needs to be shunned and not accepted. For example, respect for elders. Elders traditionally look out for the youth, but youth these days look down on elders like they weren't the ones on the front lines fighting the good fight. Call them old, dusty, etc when they should see them as role models. Elders also traditionally protect youth, but kids look at it as "snitching " and feel like they should mind their own business. We need a universal code everyone abides by, or they're out. We can't accept it. Just cut it off.
thats because our elders wasnt shyt

wheres the black businesses? why did they tell us to follow a system that was made to trap us?

i dont even respect baby boomer nikkas

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That's the point of the thread..
People dont know what they are arguing at this point, I'm just trying to see who is admitting to lackingn discipline and not wanting to become discipline.

Discipline is the foundation of any action/decision, if you lack the discipline to commit to a goal your actions/decisions will always be in vain, and you will continue to fail. How can you make any type of move with no focus to stick to it and take it serious? How can you get anything done if you are always willing to comprimise for lesser things that benifit nobody? I dont care what other races are doing, nor am I comparing blacks other races, so the mention of other races is a cop out to give an excuse to why one does not want to step up.
 

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Well don't attention whore for gp then. Thats a lack of discipline you keep bytching about. I assume you not doing good in life and want to come here and talk down to people like you doing better than the people you ask to be disciplined.

Making a thread = attention whoring? Ok. Have a good day and keep bumping my thread.
 

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Nope...hear me out...

Most of the members of a group of people, any group, are just fodder. They're basically intended to be slaves. Be it actual slavery, materialistic slaves, or mental slaves.

It's up to the elite of which ever group to have discipline, live by a code, and make moves for their group. It's what the other groups have.

Take whites as a group. 90% of them aren't shyt either. The elite of their group have made the necessary power moves to where the other 90% reap enough benefits to where the 90 wholeheartedly support the 10.

So our elite need to basically use the rest of us to gain power. In order for us to reap trickle down benefits. In other words we need to prop our chosen leaders high and support them regardless. We need to make our kings and queens.

That dynamic never left, it just appeared too. White people still have real royalty. It's how humans function as a species. As Meek said, there's levels to this.

So most of the ratchets out here are doing exactly what they're supposed too. Only thing is there are supposed to be a group of black elite benefiting from their careless spending. There should be a black person as the head and getting profit from any black music and entertainment.
 

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A whole lot of shyt needs to be shunned and not accepted. For example, respect for elders. Elders traditionally look out for the youth, but youth these days look down on elders like they weren't the ones on the front lines fighting the good fight. Call them old, dusty, etc when they should see them as role models. Elders also traditionally protect youth, but kids look at it as "snitching " and feel like they should mind their own business. We need a universal code everyone abides by, or they're out. We can't accept it. Just cut it off.

My thing is with a lack of discipline we will continue to entertain non factors, its time to identify weak links and cut it off ASAP, the days of debating and arguments are over. In this thread you have people arguing against a fundamental trait needed in order to accomplish any goal set. Im not sure if these dudes are simply dumb, dont comprehend well, or giving excuses .
 

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thats because our elders wasnt shyt

wheres the black businesses? why did they tell us to follow a system that was made to trap us?

i dont even respect baby boomer nikkas

@Wild self
Our elders couldn't build shyt, they were dealing with segregation, Jim Crow, lynchings, etc.

We need a code of conduct amongst us all in regards to respect tbh. That's where we start first.
 

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what about black woman though?


There are black men who are not willing to die for their woman and defend the black woman, so why do you think many are running wild and or being slaughtered. Of course we understand the system is set up to remove the black man from the home, it has mot removed all of us though, so those who are not victims of the system must protect the woman. Any black woman who feels she does not need a black man doesnt need time wasted on her, let her white daddy save her.
 

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Our elders couldn't build shyt, they were dealing with segregation, Jim Crow, lynchings, etc.

We need a code of conduct amongst us all in regards to respect tbh. That's where we start first.
no thats not true....they wanted to integrate instead of having their own shyt, blacks were better off during segregation...it forced u to hustle
 

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Our elders couldn't build shyt, they were dealing with segregation, Jim Crow, lynchings, etc.

We need a code of conduct amongst us all in regards to respect tbh. That's where we start first.
Many of the elders were given a false dream and put all of their eggs into the wrong basket. So while I know there are many whole sold out the future generations, I do acknowledge there were many who thougjt they were doing right as they had no prior blue print to know what will or will not work. With those types I respect them as humans and treat them with decency but I make sure they get out of my way and dont prevent me from doing what needs to be done.
 

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Nope...hear me out...

Most of the members of a group of people, any group, are just fodder. They're basically intended to be slaves. Be it actual slavery, materialistic slaves, or mental slaves.

It's up to the elite of which ever group to have discipline, live by a code, and make moves for their group. It's what the other groups have.

Take whites as a group. 90% of them aren't shyt either. The elite of their group have made the necessary power moves to where the other 90% reap enough benefits to where the 90 wholeheartedly support the 10.
Real shyt right here. You may or may not know this, but Hitler also had a similar belief, which was part of the reason why his party rose to supreme power. From one of his speeches: "Again it must be that all decent Germans become National Socialists. [But] Only the best National Socialists become party members." It's all about the elites doing the bulk of the work for the masses.
 

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Real shyt right here. You may or may not know this, but Hitler also had a similar belief, which was part of the reason why his party rose to supreme power. From one of his speeches: "Again it must be that all decent Germans become National Socialists. [But] Only the best National Socialists become party members." It's all about the elites doing the bulk of the work for the masses.

The issue witth the Talented 10th concept is the best and brightest blacks instead of building were offered a seat at White daddies table and said eff thr black community. The issue with the black elite of today is they didnt even try to build prominent black economic bases that were fully independent, at most they just all moved together but were still dependent on white infrastructure for the most part. So we brag about being the first black doctor at a white hospital opposed to building all black hospitals.
 

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It mattered because you not working at a youth detention center when a good percentage of the posts/threads
I had seen of yours has to do with what we are supposed to do for the youth seemed to undermine what you profess
to believe. It had nothing to do with "feelings". That's like a vegan person going to work at McDonalds. lol




Again - that doesn't necessarily mean I disagree with your past opinions and thoughts totally, but how you present them.



Like you say we don't know what anybody else is doing in real life here,
so all we have to go off of what I see here. So, if you say anything on here you best be ready to ride
for that chit, or people are gonna see you about it. Folks on here will pull your files so quick and so fast,
ask @Yup. But if it doesn't matter, then let it ride.

Naw buddy, u just arent making sense and are in your feelings. Thats obvious with your 1st couple of posts in this thread. You got a problem with my views, so me leaving for a higher paying job is your ammunition against me. Anybody else doing that would be merely common sense. My place of employment has nothing to do with my views. Im doing fine doing what im doing offline NOT working there. You should put in an application at one since evidently thats the only way to contribute to the community:yeshrug:
 

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Good thread OP , dapped and repped, most of your points are spot on. I agree with most but a couple I cant rock with...

Through history majority of the ways Blacks have been conquered were via a group who lacked discipline.
Thats a broad generalization considering Black people's history goes back futher than anyone else's on the face of the Earth. Take Taharka, the ruler of Kemet who reunified the Upper and Lower kingdoms during the 25th dynasty. He was eventually conquered by the Assyrians, not because they lacked discipline. Reuniting Upper and Lower Kemet showed what discipline can do, but they were conquered because the Assyrians had more access to iron which afforded them superior weaponary. The same with Zulu and the British. I dare someone say they werent disciplined, its just the Europeans had guns.

If there was discipline amongst black men as a whole chances are we would never have had all of the agents in our organizations in the past so the only way they could have destroyed the groups would be to literally go to war with them.

There was going to be flies in the ointment regardless when it comes to revolution. shyt look at Benedict Arnold during the American Revovlution. So you cant really say organizations like the Panthers failed because of the lack of discipline. They showed the world how great of a threat that disciplined black people could be
 

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Through history majority of the ways Blacks have been conquered were via a group who lacked discipline.

Keep in mind Im not referring to jim crow and stuff that happened after blacks were conquered.

Even till this day you have cats who brag about being God and the Original man, yet have the most trivial vices.

Dudes will argue about black feminist being a cancer not realizing that as a man if you have discipline then you do not allow those types to procreate because you would leave them be to die out. Half these women get preggo by dusty dudes thus creating their warped mentalities and sterotypes on how they assume all black men are.

If there was discipline amongst black men as a whole chances are we would never have had all of the agents in our organizations in the past so the only way they could have destroyed the groups would be to literally go to war with them.

If there was discipline one could argue the crack era and suchwould have not popped up as people wouldnt have touched the dope.

Now keep in mind this weak mentality to not be discipline was programmed into blacks, but when will we say enough is enough and break this mold?

We clown young brothers for not being sexually active as teenagers for christ sakes, as sleeping with a bunch of chicks is what makes you a man and not being productive.

Black men when will we say enough is enough?
Sounds great!
 
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