Trump orders USAID to be put under the U.S. Department of State (DOS) amidst foreign aid freeze

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You are correct. The only issue is if they don’t take the money, America will just sent the money to “rebels” or “independent agencies” or “rappers” who they will ask to topple the government.


Remember when Trump sent that dumbass to Venezuela to claim her was the president? That’s what USAID money does.
USAID is much more varied than cherry picked examples. But carry on :pachaha:
 

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USAID is much more varied than cherry picked examples. But carry on :pachaha:


Nothing I’m saying is cherry picked. You only saying cherry picked due to Trump going after it. This is how I know 90% of thecoli doesn’t follow politics or understand it. Only repeat headlines.
 

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Nothing I’m saying is cherry picked. You only saying cherry picked due to Trump going after it. This is how I know 90% of thecoli doesn’t follow politics or understand it. Only repeat headlines.
You are cherry picking. USAID does a lot more than provide cover for intel operations. Trump is going after it so he can eliminate any independence and bring it under his direct control.
 

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You are cherry picking. USAID does a lot more than provide cover for intel operations. Trump is going after it so he can eliminate any independence and bring it under his direct control.

I’m not cherry picking. I’m not defending and that’s what you’re all doing. The only reason y’all hate this is because Trump did it. I ask you all to do your own research OFF Google. Go search for yourself.
 

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I’m not cherry picking. I’m not defending and that’s what you’re all doing. The only reason y’all hate this is because Trump did it. I ask you all to do your own research OFF Google. Go search for yourself.
Typical copout response. You have nothing to prove your statements. People have proven itt that USAID does more than intel ops. And yes, Trump is not doing this to stop waste or stop foreign intel ops, he's doing it to bring it under his direct control, as he is doing for all government agencies.
 

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Someone tell me why Liberal states are still sending in federal taxes.
 

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Whether USAID is a good program or not is irrelevant here. Personally I think they do some good things but are ultimately a tool of the American empire.

Whats far more relevant and pressing is whether we as citizens will allow a two bit wannabe dictator like Trump and an unelected Boer with zero authority to kill a government program on a whim.

If they want to get rid of congressional approved departments or programs, they need to go through the proper channels.
 

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Whether USAID is a good program or not is irrelevant here. Personally I think they do some good things but are ultimately a tool of the American empire.

Whats far more relevant and pressing is whether we as citizens will allow a two bit wannabe dictator like Trump and an unelected Boer with zero authority to kill a government program on a whim.

If they want to get rid of congressional approved departments or programs, they need to go through the proper channels.
This should be the actual take, USAID being good or bad isn't part of the actual discussion that needs to be had. We have an unelected bureaucrat deciding what government programs should be defunded based on lining his own wealth and pockets. What's to stop him from using this same logic for social security next ?
 

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Unless we’re talking about Trump
You know republicans have conned folks into believing that because they pay taxes it’s okay for Elon musk to “audit” the government and decide what we shouldn’t pay for.

What they don’t tell them is that they’ll be receiving a tax break or better services with their money.

But that’s really lying.

Those folks are just obsessed with machismo
 

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There’s a fair bit of ignorance on aid in this thread. I can’t comment on long term development programmes which do have much more political aims and strings attached but humanitarian aid is a different thing entirely. And the idea American humanitarian funding isn’t beneficial or liked in places it’s spent is ridiculous

The US are the biggest donors in emergencies and it is spent/ used by organisations USAID give it to with the humanitarian mandate in use (neutrality, impartiality and independence). Now the US will be selective in where money goes to a degree (see Ukraine) but the US spends millions keeping people alive from DRC, Mali and north east Nigeria to Gaza, Yemen and Syria. Now we can always dig deep and say ‘well America is the source of the problem’ but the humanitarian mandate doesn’t give a shyt about that. Its role is to help people stay alive and hopefully move back to normality. And this isn’t a sort of nice to have. I’ve worked my entire adult life in the humanitarian sector and when money dries up people die. So yeh US not providing UN funds to provide food in South Sudan or give money to an INGO to keep clean water running in Gaza, that has massive impact on families ability to live.

At the macro level sure there’s political reasons for the purpose of USAID but although it’s a fukked up system where western states keep refugees and displaced people alive, currently in the present system if the money stops, the clean water stops, the food stops. Shutting down USAID will have major repercussions.
 
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