Trump orders USAID to be put under the U.S. Department of State (DOS) amidst foreign aid freeze

[mastermind]

This should be the actual take, USAID being good or bad isn't part of the actual discussion that needs to be had. We have an unelected bureaucrat deciding what government programs should be defunded based on lining his own wealth and pockets. What's to stop him from using this same logic for social security next ?

Fax

There’s a fair bit of ignorance on aid in this thread. I can’t comment on long term development programmes which do have much more political aims and strings attached but humanitarian aid is a different thing entirely. And the idea American humanitarian funding isn’t beneficial or liked in places it’s spent is ridiculous

The US are the biggest donors in emergencies and it is spent/ used by organisations USAID give it to with the humanitarian mandate in use (neutrality, impartiality and independence). Now the US will be selective in where money goes to a degree (see Ukraine) but the US spends millions keeping people alive from DRC, Mali and north east Nigeria to Gaza, Yemen and Syria. Now we can always dig deep and say ‘well America is the source of the problem’ but the humanitarian mandate doesn’t give a shyt about that. Its role is to help people stay alive and hopefully move back to normality. And this isn’t a sort of nice to have. I’ve worked my entire adult life in the humanitarian sector and when money dries up people die. So yeh US not providing UN funds to provide food in South Sudan or give money to an INGO to keep clean water running in Gaza, that has massive impact on families ability to live.

At the macro level sure there’s political reasons for the purpose of USAID but although it’s a fukked up system where western states keep refugees and displaced people alive, currently in the present system if the money stops, the clean water stops, the food stops. Shutting down USAID will have major repercussions.

Also fax

 

[Pressure]

There’s a fair bit of ignorance on aid in this thread. I can’t comment on long term development programmes which do have much more political aims and strings attached but humanitarian aid is a different thing entirely. And the idea American humanitarian funding isn’t beneficial or liked in places it’s spent is ridiculous

The US are the biggest donors in emergencies and it is spent/ used by organisations USAID give it to with the humanitarian mandate in use (neutrality, impartiality and independence). Now the US will be selective in where money goes to a degree (see Ukraine) but the US spends millions keeping people alive from DRC, Mali and north east Nigeria to Gaza, Yemen and Syria. Now we can always dig deep and say ‘well America is the source of the problem’ but the humanitarian mandate doesn’t give a shyt about that. Its role is to help people stay alive and hopefully move back to normality. And this isn’t a sort of nice to have. I’ve worked my entire adult life in the humanitarian sector and when money dries up people die. So yeh US not providing UN funds to provide food in South Sudan or give money to an INGO to keep clean water running in Gaza, that has massive impact on families ability to live.

At the macro level sure there’s political reasons for the purpose of USAID but although it’s a fukked up system where western states keep refugees and displaced people alive, currently in the present system if the money stops, the clean water stops, the food stops. Shutting down USAID will have major repercussions.

@FAH1223 alias

 

[FAH1223]

Too hypothetical? Contractors and NGO partners are bankrupt

 

[88m3]

you bozos are going to get heaved in to an oven shouting both sides

what a disgrace

 

[88m3]

Too hypothetical? Contractors and NGO partners are bankrupt

I would imagine some organizations/people can run shoestring budgets temporarily because everyone is invested, the issue will be the material when it is gone and it can't be replaced if it's required...


I know people who have relocated their whole families to support missions like USAID(not anymore we're all old now)


makes me sick

 

[altruicsense]

doesn't matter which side you're on, but if it doesn't bother u how these nikkaz r movin then i don't know what to say. it's like the cold war when u just say your neighbor is a commie and they shut him down in the middle of the night. the dems created a monster. the people got the government they deserve. this timeline is wild. and this south african nikka elon playing game of thrones. what?

 

[choc_cardigan]

doesn't matter which side you're on, but if it doesn't bother u how these nikkaz r movin then i don't know what to say. it's like the cold war when u just say your neighbor is a commie and they shut him down in the middle of the night. the dems created a monster. the people got the government they deserve. this timeline is wild. and this south african nikka elon playing game of thrones. what?

What do you mean the dems created a monster?

 

[wire28]

What do you mean the dems created a monster?

One day these people will blame the republicans for their actions. One day…

 

[Robbie3000]

It would seem the judicial is the only branch that is still functional. (Largely)
Thank god the judicial is spread out over thousands of judges and hundreds of jurisdictions.

 

[Loose]

It would seem the judicial is the only branch that is still functional. (Largely)
Thank god the judicial is spread out over thousands of judges and hundreds of jurisdictions.

What happens if/when trump ignores the judicial branch?

 

[NaijaProdigy Redux]

What happens if/when trump ignores the judicial branch?

That’s the first thing I thought about when I saw the judge block DOGE’s access.

DoJ / FBI aren’t going to do shyt.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

That’s the first thing I thought about when I saw the judge block DOGE’s access.

DoJ / FBI aren’t going to do shyt.

Gee if there was only laws in place that punish people who broke federal laws after judges issue orders

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Robbie3000]

We might have lucked out be that Trump and Musk are so stupid.

Imagine facing a proper villain like dikk Cheney with Trump’s cult following.

 

[FAH1223]

We might have lucked out be that Trump and Musk are so stupid.

Imagine facing a proper villain like dikk Cheney with Trump’s cult following.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/08/usaid-trump-musk-doge-00203191

Pete Marocco is the one running all this