Trump lets his nuts hang: Tarrifs on Canada Mexico and China day one. UPDATE: MEXICO PRES SONS TRUMP

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Using tariffs to get Mexico and Canada to ackrite isn't a bad idea at all

You got to keep them acting right.

Either Trump declares victory and backs down or the mexicans wont be able to hold back the next wave.

I mean the reason for the mass deportation threat and the demphasis on the wall is because even america can’t stop migrants at the border.

besides he also said drugs no one mentioned stopping that.

Finally no migrants are coming from Canada ( well they are but those are the “good migrants”) so how can Canada act right
 

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Europe is probably next since they have high tariffs on US goods. While the US doesn't have any on them. You either playball or get your economy wrecked.
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Cause where else you gonna sell your shyt but in the US?
The rest of the world?
 

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I hope you're right, but I've learned to not underestimate the docility, cruelty and stupidity of white Americans. 74 Million people didn't want this, but 76 million did. The majority in the country didn't care enough to vote. Those people may be the ones who upon finding out what some of their fellow citizens did, might be furious and want to tear this shyt down.

This man has essentially declared a world trade war. I don't know how this will work unless he's expecting CEOs from around the world to come to him and kiss his ring and beg for an exception. This is purely about flexing on others and forcing them to give America preferential treatment.

But if they refuse, if the world just decides to write new trade deals to stabilize prices, and put America second or third, what's the rebuttal? is he going to blame them and then declare *ACTUAL* war saying it's a global conspiracy to economically sabotage the US, despite the fact that he's the moron who put in the tariffs that triggered this? I think the American public has been dumbed down enough that they'd actually believe that retarded shyt because they themselves are every bit as stupid as him.

White america is aging and shrinking. This is them giving into a collective delusion, and they seem willing to completely crash out to protect their precious illusory social status.
They aren't shrinking but they are as stupid as ever
 

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You got to keep them acting right.

Mexico knows that they need the US more than the US needs them. If tariffs aren't enough, heavy tax on remittances from the US to Mexico should do the trick. I found that 10 percent of Mexican citizens live in the US and I'm pretty sure that's a lot higher. Collecting all that remittance money coming to Mexico would be just as devastating as levying tariffs.
 

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These countries have been making money hand over fist off the US market but offering nothing in return.

The gravy train might finally be over for them. Because China isn't letting them sell goods in their country either. The US has all the leverage.
I kind of don’t understand.

Do you think that Trump is some kind of audacious genius and no one thought of this?

That all you have to do is strongarm people?

number 1 Americans prefer European shyt. You think making a Benz or Bentely 30K more is gonna get americans to stop buying them?


let’s keep it a buck before the US stopped making things they started making a lot of junk planned obsolescence products which made foriegn shyt more valuable

Who the fukk buys a Ford? Remember the Found on (the side of) the road daily?

They used to call japanese cars “Jap Crap”. till they got better at making them now the majority of the cars in the US and everywhere are Asian.

Hell Toyota Crown was an overseas model only but they brought it to the US.

The reason for end of US manufacturing is because of decadent american culture.

No one in the US is down to be a salary man like in Japan or Asia. Americans ain’t down to make work their everything and use robots and A.I. like asians do.

This difference in culture works against Asians too They can follow simple instructions and they almost never strike. They had to put a net up at Foxconn to stop people from committing that but they just had a strike a year or so ago. nikka live not in factory towns but in small ass rooms. You think americans are going for that?

Where the US wins is in innovation. Iphones are designed in california and made in China. Same thing they convinced you to buy a new Iphone every other year at 1600 a pop and you have to rent space on the phone where a much cheaper phone that does everything an Iphone can do has SD slots.

That’s something else companies are masters of marketing to americans again the fact that everyone has a late model iphone tells you all you need to know.


Finally logically speaking at whatever time you thought the democrats where for the working class why didn’t they use these same strong arm tactics to win trade wars if they work? You think people didn’t game this out?
 

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I kind of don’t understand.

Do you think that Trump is some kind of audacious genius and no one thought of this?

That all you have to do is strongarm people?

number 1 Americans prefer European shyt. You think making a Benz or Bentely 30K more is gonna get americans to stop buying them?


let’s keep it a buck before the US stopped making things they started making a lot of junk planned obsolescence products which made foriegn shyt more valuable

Who the fukk buys a Ford? Remember the Found on (the side of) the road daily?

They used to call japanese cars “Jap Crap”. till they got better at making them now the majority of the cars in the US and everywhere are Asian.

Hell Toyota Crown was an overseas model only but they brought it to the US.

The reason for end of US manufacturing is because of decadent american culture.

No one in the US is down to be a salary man like in Japan or Asia. Americans ain’t down to make work their everything and use robots and A.I. like asians do.

This difference in culture works against Asians too They can follow simple instructions and they almost never strike. They had to put a net up at Foxconn to stop people from committing that but they just had a strike a year or so ago. nikka live not in factory towns but in small ass rooms. You think americans are going for that?

Where the US wins is in innovation. Iphones are designed in california and made in China. Same thing they convinced you to buy a new Iphone every other year at 1600 a pop and you have to rent space on the phone where a much cheaper phone that does everything an Iphone can do has SD slots.

That’s something else companies are masters of marketing to americans again the fact that everyone has a late model iphone tells you all you need to know.


Finally logically speaking at whatever time you thought the democrats where for the working class why didn’t they use these same strong arm tactics to win trade wars if they work? You think people didn’t game this out?
Why do you think Japanese automakers started building cars in the US?

The answer: tariffs
 

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Mexico knows that they need the US more than the US needs them. If tariffs aren't enough, heavy tax on remittances from the US to Mexico should do the trick. I found that 10 percent of Mexican citizens live in the US and I'm pretty sure that's a lot higher. Collecting all that remittance money coming to Mexico would be just as devastating as levying tariffs.
Whoa my guy you’re talking about fukking with the international banking system

This is what he said he would do to make Meixco pay for the wall. He quietly fell back.

Tariffs and trade wars are one thing but fukking with the international flow of capital is quite another.

There’s shyt tons of US Businesses in Mexico what if they just nationalized Walmart in Mexico?

You’d be basically going against the banks and starting an economic war with the world.

Again y’all just want easy answers the wild thing is if he said was gonna win the drug war buy whacking the cartel leaders ( which he also said he was gonna do) y’all would rightly not believe him.
 

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Without the US, Poland and others aren't staying in NATO.

there is no european army nor NATO without the US.

There is no NATO going on its own.
You do know there was and always been military alliances right? World Wars 1 &2 was started by miltary alliances that didn’t include america.

The one thing I’d grant you is that based on the performance of the Russian Army The european armies don’t need NATO to defeat Russia.

You do realize that coalition warfare has been the name of the game for 150 years.

No way the US is going to war unilaterally

The days of 500 people dying in a single battle are over.

Finally you don’t need NATO just let everyone including the Uke’s get nukes. Think massive proliferation won’t get someone to press the button?

You think if Zelensky still had the bomb that he wouldn’t have used it by now?

Couldve saved the US several hundred billion or started nuclear armagodon
 

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Whoa my guy you’re talking about fukking with the international banking system

We are talking about taxing money that flows from the US to Mexico from Mexican nationals

This is what he said he would do to make Meixco pay for the wall. He quietly fell back

Trump threatened tariffs and implemented "Remain in Mexico" in 2019 which Biden reversed in 2021. Cheaper and more effective than a wall
 

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Why do you think Japanese automakers started building cars in the US?

The answer: tariffs
The money goes back to Japan

also they build a tiny amount of cars here

By that logic why was my Toyata built in Canada?

I bought it in Mississippi

Again the problem is it seems y’all think one guy has all the answers simply because he has the balls to make decisions.

You said you were or are a military contractor you sat throgh a million tediious meetings, Im sure you thought most of them where boring and uneeded but the meetings are there to collaborate.

To game out courses of action to have trade offs.

If you were in the military and dealt with staffs and the Military decision making process you’d know how much they game out things are are concerned with tradeoffs.

You could say the OODA loop is better and quicker but you’d have to orient to the threat meaning you’d have to focus on what you’re trying to do.

No nikka with a million things on his plate can get down in the weeds to all the problems so that’s why one of the guardrails of politics is telling a President why something he wants to do won’t work out the way that they want to.
 
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