Trump lets his nuts hang: Tarrifs on Canada Mexico and China day one. UPDATE: MEXICO PRES SONS TRUMP

[richaveli83]

That's the point of the tariffs. I think Trump is a fascist and a moron and I don't think his plan is going to work, but what he promises to do with these tariffs is get manufacturing jobs back to the US.

It will take a long as time to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States. I'm in favor of bringing manufacturing jobs back to this country but not like this.

 

[Wargames]

He doesn't want to replicate the cheap labour. He wants to make foreign goods so expensive, that the competitive advantage of cheaper labour is nullified. His plan is basically an Import Substitution Industrialization scheme for the US. Again, I'm not saying it's going to work. I'm just telling you what his thinking is.

Once again that plan could work if he was being selective regarding sectors and there was a developed industry locally to take its place BUT these are across the board tariff gains against NAFTA and China which literally goes against the foundation of our modern consumer/service economy.

I think you can square peg in a round hole use this to justify what he is doing but unemployment is 4.1% and people are complaining about inflation. None of these actions match what the voters said they wanted.

What it does match is what his billionaire supporters want because this will force Americans to pay even more for the same items they could get cheaper now increasing company earnings.

 

[FishNGrits]

His promises to drastically increase taxes on consumer goods and reduce Americans buying power..

Honestly I’m reading all of project 25 right now and all this shyt is right out the book. Most of what he’s gonna do will happen in the first few months. It says so right in the first section. Expect a lot of fckery as soon as he hits off

 

[85 East]

This could trigger WW3

The one reason it hasn't already sparked, median ages aside, is both China and America need eachother. Different side of the same coin. China needs the production of big American companies to prop ot up. If companies divest, China has nothing holding it back, and no reason not to just say fukk it. America needs cheap labor.

 

[Mank1nd]

This might actually change hip hop.

Dem raps about drug use and gun play got yall whispering
We on food stamps and living in shelters with our children
My man's got the Ramen, I got the Chitlins,
We going out like suckas but atleast Trumps in the building

 

[Rekkapryde]

Tesla might be in more trouble than people think. Toyota has been quietly spending billions building battery plants in the US (a couple of them near their assembly plants). They wouldn't do that unless they had something ground breaking in terms of battery tech. GM has been doing the same I think.

Smartest thing Tesla did was build the infrastructure first. That is a huge advantage over everyone else.

Them third party fast chargers are TRASH.

 

[JT-Money]

Coli Economists.

It's obvious this is a negotiating tactic because of the border.

 

[Scaaar]

You don’t seem to understand basic supply and demand.

Americans especially native born americans will not work for wages that are competitive with overseas wages.

That's the part that never seems to connect to them. They want American manufacturing back here to pay everyone a decent wage with good benefits but keep prices the same or lower them...in a capitalist market in which investors are trying to squeeze every cent of profit outta people that they can lol

 

[African Peasant]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-opens-missile-base-poland-trump-presidency-looms-over-nato-2024-11-13/

You mean Biden just put a base there and Poland’s President is saying we should be ok cause Trump likes me.



You think that is going to save NATO?

NATO is not going anywhere. You cats live in an alternative world.

Poland is rearming to the max thx to the US and it's started under TRump and it won't stop!

Poland is not ditching the US to put its faith in Germany under some imaginary 'european army'.

 

[African Peasant]

He might still leave NATO, which is an institutionalized multilateral alliance, and turn towards bilateral agreements. If countries are well behaved, politically aligned and do what he wants, they get protection, if not, they are on their own.

That's already what NATO is.

NATO is a US creation, don't get fooled by the democratic/multilateral talk. The US rules NATO and always did.

If you take the US out, there is no NATO left. NATO is the US.

 

[Scaaar]

In what factories? America doesn’t have the infrastructure to take on all manufacturing domestically. Somewhere in the supply chain you got to import pieces. It goes against the economic “guns or butter” theory which means we are going to have to make things inferior and at a higher cost to compensate for the lack of trade partners.

All of this is going to lead to more inflatation and companies kissing trumps ass for tariff breaks but not going down on prices.

We truly have a education/critical thinking problem in this country. If multiple people and economists are telling these folks what's going to happen with these tariffs and they're still trying to downplay it.

 

[Wargames]

NATO is not going anywhere. You cats live in an alternative world.

Poland is rearming to the max thx to the US and it's started under TRump and it won't stop!

Poland is not ditching the US to put its faith in Germany under some imaginary 'european army'.

Lets see where things stand when Trump says the US aren't supporting Ukraine anymore and starts making those concessions to Russia for peace.

You reasoning sounds like the president of Poland’s reasoning, and the polish are not known for their smarts. Your looking at Trump like he is known for rewarding his friends and sticking to his words. When historically he consistently leaves people out to dry and makes decisions based on who spoke to him last.

A shyt storm is coming and kissing Trumps ass isn't going to stop the shyt from flowing.

 

[Hoshi_Toshi]

I don't see manufacturing jobs coming back to the US the way they think. In the infinite chase of more profits companies always look to see where they can cut costs and that always happens to be the greedy Americans wanting decent wages, benefits, insurance, and all those regulations.

 

[IIVI]

I don't see manufacturing jobs coming back to the US the way they think. In the infinite chase of more profits companies always look to see where they can cut costs and that always happens to be the greedy Americans wanting decent wages, benefits, insurance, and all those regulations.

This.

It’s just so dishonest because it won’t happen. It sounds good, but it’s a logistic nightmare to implement.

Think of all the cut corners that will happen along the way and who’ll be paying for that with their tax money.

People need to face it, those days are done.

Republicans know this. It won’t ever come to be because there are better systems out there and after they’re out of office, we’ll move onto that again.

It’s their cockamammie plan to have people believe cheap manufacturing will come back because it’s an huge opportunity to get rich quick, pump and dump then let taxpayers and citizens hold the mess longterm.

“Oh well, that didn’t work.” As they walk off counting the insane amount of money they made.

I’m graduating as an electrical engineer soon and this would theoretically create more opportunities for me in the near future. However, this is all a total shytshow that nothing real will come out of. Not to mention CEO’s will simply outsource the work they have no plan on completing so they can hold more of that money to themselves.

People don’t see the forest for the trees. It’s an enormous pump and dump. “Return manufacturing to America!” is straight MLM/Pyramid scheme vapor ware talk.

 

[FishNGrits]

I don't see manufacturing jobs coming back to the US the way they think. In the infinite chase of more profits companies always look to see where they can cut costs and that always happens to be the greedy Americans wanting decent wages, benefits, insurance, and all those regulations.

If they put tariffs on our three biggest trade partners that is their attempt on forcing industry back into our country. It says so right in the book. The problem is we don’t have the infrastructure for it yet. Musk himself said it’s gonna hurt before it gets better. They also want to cut all economic ties to China because they are a communist dictator ship that oppose traditional American values. So buy your cars, computers, w/e before those tarifffs hit.