The thing is: is this Year 7 for Mahomes. Do you believe that at this time, January 30 2005 Mahomes is anywhere near a shot at a 3 peat or 4 total rings?
Do you also believe if Peyton was born 20 years later he couldn't do this with what KC has built?
Cam at 22 is still dirty lol
Oh I think a bunch of All-Timers could flip careers with Mahomes and be champions. Do I think they'd all have 3, potentially 4 rings in 8 years the way he's working on? No, but there are a bunch of quarterbacks who'd win there, and that's why when analyzing Mahomes' career, you have to give transparent context...
Andy Reid right now is one of the greatest QB coaches, OC's, play designers we've ever seen, on that side of the ball. He's right there with Bill Walsh at this point...
Andy Reid has won his division with everybody he's ever had. McNabb. Vick. Smith. Mahomes. And that's a helluva gradient of quarterbacks. So I think it's safe to say, that give Andy Reid a league-average starter, he could win his division, and potentially a playoff game with---->he win the division with Smith and Vick, and won a playoff game with Smith in 2015...
Give Andy Reid a better than league-average QB, like just simply a Top 10 QB, you can be an annual Super Bowl contender. McNabb was a Top 10 guy the duration of his prime, Reid with that, got a SB run and 5 conference championship runs. In the context of today's QBs, he'd have a similar success rate if he had Hurts or Goff, for example. And if everything broke right and he didn't run into the dynasty of his era, he could steal a Lombardi, but there's no doubt in my mind that if he had any annual Top 10 guy, any era (00s, 10s, 20s, since those are the eras he's coached), he'd be an annual Super Bowl contender with said Top 10 quarterback!
Give Reid a legitimate, iconic, All-Time quarterback talent? He's winning championships. For today's QBs, there's no doubt in my mind that if Reid had Lamar or Burrow or Allen, all three of those guys would have a Super Bowl. Would they have more than one? Who knows, but it's the same game, would Mahomes have a single one if he was drafted into Burrow's Bengals with Zac Taylor as his coach? I do think Mahomes would have one with Lamar's Ravens or Allen's Bills, but he wouldn't have 3. The coaching impact of Andy has to be declared here...
For historic greats, if Manning had Reid there's zero doubt that Manning has more than the two championships he ended up with. Absolutely zero doubt. Those two together would be the dynasty of their day. Imagine Manning instead of McNabb with Reid's 00s Eagles, or Reid instead of Mora/Dungy/Caldwell/Fox/Kubiak with Manning's Colts and Broncos. He'd be doing exactly what Mahomes is doing, except he was actually a more dominant passer, so he'd be obliterating Stat records even more than he actually did...
If you replace Manning with Mahomes to the Colts, Mahomes eventually wins one in Indy. Probably plays better in playoff L's than Manning ever did. But he's not winning more than 2 max in Indy with those teams, and while clearly a very cerebral player, he's not the QB computer Manning was...