Thought bron was gaining on the goat but it’s not close

[#1 pick]

Nike thought he and his 60 plus wins teams were favorites in 09-10 though. That’s why they ran commercials. Kobe & The Lakers made it…the other team did not

Nike ain't Vegas

 

[Braman]

Ya'll delusional af. No one cares if you think MJ is the goat and someone else thinks someone else is the goat. You do and you make it a mission to try to say no one is close when several have a better case for being goat than MJ and some who aren't have a claim that they could have had a better career.

MJ is elite. Definetly deserving of someone with the claim of that title but it's not this goofy thing his stupid stans think where he's above and beyond. He has never been anywhere near as good as his stans would like to believe he is

Fam I don’t think you understand. You’re using ‘Jordan Stans’ as if it’s some new age bron vs Kobe thing. It ain’t. ‘Jordan Stans’ refers to like 70% of adult male basketball fans

Like how old are you to refer to people as ‘Jordan Stans’. Again, it’s like if people said ‘Ali stans’ or ‘look at these Pele stans’

Now if you want to have a legit GOAT argument for Bron—-who i’d also be categorized as a ‘stan’, which further underlines how dumb your argument is—-or KAJ, sure let’s do that and Mike would win in any non-emotional, pure basketball debate. Easily. But I can’t take anyone who uses the term ‘Jordan Stans’ seriously. You might be young enough to be my son

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Nike ain't Vegas

They dropping money so it’s even worse lmaooooooooo

 

[viktordoomsecretwars]

This shyt is allowed to go on and on but someone with no informative facts or data provided just opinion but my thread gets blasted out of existence ?

@CHICAGO

 

[#1 pick]

Fam I don’t think you understand. You’re using ‘Jordan Stans’ as if it’s some new age bron vs Kobe thing. It ain’t. ‘Jordan Stans’ refers to like 70% of adult male basketball fans

Like how old are you to refer to people as ‘Jordan Stans’. Again, it’s like if people said ‘Ali stans’ or ‘look at these Pele stans’

Now if you want to have a legit GOAT argument for Bron—-who i’d also be categorized as a ‘stan’, which further underlines how dumb your argument is—-or KAJ, sure let’s do that and Mike would win in any non-emotional, pure basketball debate. Easily. But I can’t take anyone who uses the term ‘Jordan Stans’ seriously. You might be young enough to be my son

There goes the MJ stan thinking people who are just casuals thinking they are stans when they aren't, they just think MJ is goat. A MJ stan is a nikka like you. All up on MJ dikk. Any thread, you running in to idol worship and defend your guy. Any slight to MJ, you coming in here defending his honor like a servant. Do better bro

 

[fifth column]

I'll give MJ credit, for doing something Bron didn't do and that's win every final when favorite. Bron didn't get it done against Dallas and we all can agree on that. That said, he got it done when he didn't have clearly the best team whereas MJ never got it done when he didn't have the best team or wasn't the favorite. MJ is a front runner. LeBron is the ultimate put the team on his back guy. That said, MJ was favorite against Orlando and lost to them in 95. MJ fans will make a million excuses but he didn't get it done against Orlando as favorites.

To me, MJ has a very strong case but Bron case is much stronger. He beat teams he had no business beating. I can't say the same for Jordan.

Any team with MJ is going to be favored in the finals, that’s actually a point for MJ’s dominance over his competition. Lebron formed super teams and still lost more finals than he won.

 

[#1 pick]

Any team with MJ is going to be favored in the finals, that’s actually a point for MJ’s dominance over his competition. Lebron formed super teams and still lost more finals than he won.

Plenty of MJ teams weren't favored and got stopped exactly where Vegas said they would get stopped. So what you saying is, as long as MJ has the best team, he will win titles, right?

Bron did that and carried his team when Vegas said he had no shot multiple times. MJ can't claim that even once.

This whole super team rubbish is what it is. Rubbish. MJ stans, you had seven straight years of 1 or 2 top 11 draft picks in the draft which led to Pippen, Grant, Oakley, and others.

How many top 10 picks did Bron teams get when he played from his rookie year to even his LA years? I'll wait?

 

[viktordoomsecretwars]

First of all, congratulations to Lebron and Lebron fans on getting the all time record, As predicted, bron fans came out in full force to make the case for their man, seeing as this is the last significant achievement Lebron could realistically has that could in their minds move the needle in some way.

These are the facts though.

Michael Jordan (667 games)

1984-1993
3 Rings (6 career)
3 NBA MVPs (5 career)
3 Finals MVPs (6 career)
7 scoring titles (10 career)
3 steals titles
DPOTY


Lebron James Career

(1408 games) 2003 - till date
4 Rings
4 NBA MVPs
4 Finals MVPs
1 scoring title
1 assist title


The gap between them is still a Hall of Fame Career:

Playing for a long ass time and being far less successful than another player does not make you the greatest. The longer Lebron plays and the fewer rings, MVP's and FInals MVP's he wins , the more inept he looks compared to MJ.

There's a reason why they were talking about Jordan like he was Jesus in 1993 when he retired.

Imagine if a player came today and in 8 healthy seasons did this :

3 Rings
3 NBA MVPs
3 Finals MVPs
7 scoring titles
3 steals titles
Defensive Player of the Year

Imagine what the conversations will be like around that player










Also, throw this in for good measure. As dessert.

His last 3 years

 

[#1 pick]

First of all, congratulations to Lebron and Lebron fans on getting the all time record, As predicted, bron fans came out in full force to make the case for their man, seeing as this is the last significant achievement Lebron could realistically has that could in their minds move the needle in some way.

These are the facts though.

Michael Jordan (667 games)

1984-1993
3 Rings (6 career)
3 NBA MVPs (5 career)
3 Finals MVPs (6 career)
7 scoring titles (10 career)
3 steals titles
DPOTY


Lebron James Career

(1408 games) 2003 - till date
4 Rings
4 NBA MVPs
4 Finals MVPs
1 scoring title
1 assist title


The gap between them is still a Hall of Fame Career:

Playing for a long ass time and being far less successful than another player does not make you the greatest. The longer Lebron plays and the fewer rings, MVP's and FInals MVP's he wins , the more inept he looks compared to MJ.

There's a reason why they were talking about Jordan like he was Jesus in 1993 when he retire





Imagine if a player came today and in 8 healthy seasons did this :

3 Rings
3 NBA MVPs
3 Finals MVPs
7 scoring titles
3 steals titles
Defensive Player of the Year

Imagine what the conversations will be like around that player










Also, throw this in for good measure. As dessert.

His last 3 years

Forgot these facts.
MJ played 15 seasons.
6 finals appearances
9 seasons without finals appearances
No playoff series wins without Pippen. In fact, MJ only has one playoff win without Pippen.
Is this your goat?
57-25 with MJ, next year, 55-27 without MJ replaced by Pete Myers from the CBA.

Opinion:

Awards that the media votes for are useless. Hakeem was the DPOY by a mile over MJ that year. The media fukked that one up badly.
Bron should have been MVP most years as well as MJ when he played. If you look at some of his 80s defensive metrics which I previously shared, he was a negative defender impact wise. Bron outside of his return to Cleveland was never a negative defender.

Celebrating shyt like steals is awful when you break contain as much as MJ did.

MJ is the goat front runner.

 

[Braman]

There goes the MJ stan thinking people who are just casuals thinking they are stans when they aren't, they just think MJ is goat. A MJ stan is a nikka like you. All up on MJ dikk. Any thread, you running in to idol worship and defend your guy. Any slight to MJ, you coming in here defending his honor like a servant. Do better bro

Fam I’m not even trying to be funny I have no idea what this means

But I just scrolled up and saw you’re so far gone you’re trying to discredit accolades, DPOYs and MVPS once people do that it’s not a real debate. I cannot take you serious

The irony is if you’re a Bron fan, WE—-I say we bc again you’re silly to assume MJ fan = not Bron a fan——We have to deal with irrational emotion-based arguments from ‘Kobe fans’. Yet you’re doing the same thing. Just a clusterfukk of a conversation let me be out

 

[#1 pick]

Fam I’m not even trying to be funny I have no idea what this means

But I just scrolled up and saw you’re so far gone you’re trying to discredit accolades, DPOYs and MVPS once people do that it’s not a real debate. I cannot take you serious

The irony is if you’re a Bron fan, WE—-I say we bc again you’re silly to assume MJ fan = not Bron a fan——We have to deal with irrational emotion-based arguments from ‘Kobe fans’. Yet you’re doing the same thing. Just a clusterfukk of a conversation let me be out

You literally said 70% of men who care about which is a reach but let's just stick to your basic point that casual think MJ is goat. Even if many do, they aren't the stans. The MJ stans are nikkas like you. The idol worshippers

 

[fifth column]

Plenty of MJ teams weren't favored and got stopped exactly where Vegas said they would get stopped. So what you saying is, as long as MJ has the best team, he will win titles, right?

Bron did that and carried his team when Vegas said he had no shot multiple times. MJ can't claim that even once.

This whole super team rubbish is what it is. Rubbish. MJ stans, you had seven straight years of 1 or 2 top 11 draft picks in the draft which led to Pippen, Grant, Oakley, and others.

How many top 10 picks did Bron teams get when he played from his rookie year to even his LA years? I'll wait?

Gotta win on the highest level when you get there, MJ handled his business while Bron came up short more times than he won. This is the goat debate not the participation trophies debate

 

[#1 pick]

Gotta win on the highest level when you get there, MJ handled his business while Bron came up short more times than he won. This is the goat debate not the participation trophies debate

In that case, Hondo and Bill Russell have the best GOAT case but we all know there is a lot more, and in that a lot more, Bron has a better case than MJ.

 

[fifth column]

In that case, Hondo and Bill Russell have the best GOAT case but we all know there is a lot more, and in that a lot more, Bron has a better case than MJ.

Bron is your goat and that’s all that matters in the end. The popular opinion and basketball crowd says it’s MJ. I think Bron is the solidified #2 of all time when he passed Kareem for the scoring record. When the authentic challenger to surpass Mike for goat comes along we will all know it.

 

[#1 pick]

Bron is your goat and that’s all that matters in the end. The popular opinion and basketball crowd says it’s MJ. I think Bron is the solidified #2 of all time when he passed Kareem for the scoring record. When the authentic challenger to surpass Mike for goat comes along we will all know it.

Bro, there you go again trying to force your perception on someone who's much smarter than you. Why can't you accept that I know Bron is the best player the same why you know MJ is the best player? We don't have to agree my dawg. I think Pac is the greatest rapper but many got others.