This Whole Women in Their Prime Thing seems like some 1960s B.S

[kevm3]

It's funny that you can quote this post but not answer the other post where I directly asked you a question. Typical.

These studies are on Jstor, Proquest, PschyInfo, and etc. If you don't have access to those databases then you can simply go to Google Scholar. Those are the places where you typically find studies. Two studies are below. The second is more on topic than the first, but the first also addresses the things I mentioned.

http://law.bepress.com/cgi/viewcont...dox declining female happiness married women"

You can just about use the whole reference list from this study to read all the studies you want about martial satisfactions and the factors that affect it:
http://www.terapiafamiliar.cl/intranet/archivos/Equity and domestic labor.pdf

If the second 2001 article is too old for you:
Type "Working Hard and Hardly Working: Domestic Labor and Marital Satisfaction Among Dual‐Earner Couples" into Google Scholar. It will be the first article that comes up. You will see that it has been cited by 112 other studies since it was published. If you are that interested in reading up on the topic you can sift through those addition studies your damn self.

Happy Reading!

Funny thing about those studies... women have way more freedom than they used to in the past and men overall are less 'domineering' and 'masculine'... and are headed more into that adrogynous 50/50 territory, but for some odd reason, women's happiness is going down. Why is that?

 

[Remote]

@Colicat
Covering up what?

Goodness, the condescension and arrogance of your post is through the roof.
Even called me "boo".
So you're one of those women. All passive-aggressive, claiming things about my post that aren't even there just to suit your style.




Aint nobody speaking for your opinion.

I've never claimed to know what women think or feel in this thread.
In fact, I've gone out of my way TWICE to state the opposite.

But imma let you cook tho.

 

[kevm3]

Since we're bringing up 'studies', here's a fun little one for you:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/03/28/guys_who_do_housework_get_less_sex.html



It may be gratifying for women to see their husbands loading the dishwasher or folding laundry, but is it sexy? Yes, according to many media stories. “Men: Want More Sex? Do the Laundry” was headline of a 2009 report from CBS News. According to Naomi Wolf, “research has shown that the most erotic thing a man can do for a woman is the dishes.” Sheryl Sandberg, the author of Lean In, agrees. “Nothing is sexier” she says, than a man who wants to do his share of the housework. “It may be counterintuitive,” writes Sandberg, “but the best way for a man to make a pass at his wife is to do the dishes.” Sandberg urges readers to check out a “fabulous little book” called Porn for Women produced by the Cambridge Women’s Pornography Cooperative. It is full of images of hunky guys vacuuming, dusting, and cleaning the kitty litter.

But now a new study in the American Sociological Review casts doubt on the truth of this happy feminist idyll. Men routinely doing “female” chores appear to have less—not more—sex. According to the authors, Sabino Kornrich (Center for Advanced Studies in the Social Sciences, Madrid), Julie Brines (University of Washington), and Katrina Leupp (University of Washington):

Couples in which men participate more in housework typically done by women report having sex less frequently. Similarly, couples in which men participate more in traditionally masculine tasks—such as yard work, paying bills, and auto maintenance—report higher sexual frequency.

The three researchers looked at data from a nationally representative sample of 4,500 heterosexual married couples from the U.S. National Survey of Families and Households, 1992–1994—the most recent large-scale study measuring household chores, sexual frequency, and marital satisfaction.

Men in the study reported having had sex an average of 5.2 times in the month prior to the survey, while women reported 5.6 times on average. But both men and women in couples with more gender-traditional divisions of household labor reported having had more sex than those with more egalitarian divisions.

In marriages where women performed all the typically female tasks (cleaning, cooking, shopping—called “core work” by the researchers), couples had sex 1.6 times more per month than couples where men carried out all these traditionally female chores. In marriages where men helped out but stuck to stereotypical male tasks (“non-core” work such automobile maintenance, yard work, bill-paying, and snow shoveling), couples had sex 0.7 times more than those where women performed the traditional male tasks. But, as the researchers point out, even in marriages where men did 40 percent of the "female" chores, couples experience "substantially lower sexual frequency than households in which women perform all the core [typically female] chores." Put simply: There appears to be an inverse relationship between husbands doing traditionally female tasks and sexual frequency.

The researchers considered the possibility that traditional couples have more sex because the husband is coercive. They ruled this out because wives in conventional marriages report similar levels of sexual satisfaction as those in more egalitarian marriages. As lead author Sabino Kornrich notes, “Had satisfaction with sex been low, but frequency high, it might have suggested coercion. However, we didn't find that.” They also controlled for variables such as religion, age, gender ideology, income, and participation in paid labor. “If anything surprised us,” author Julie Brines told reporters, “it was how robust the connection was between traditional division of labor and sexual frequency.”

Critics of the study point out that it is based on data from the early 1990s. Husbands and wives are different today, they say. As Montclair State University sociologist told Live Science, today’s younger generation is more comfortable with fluid definitions of gender. “Gender roles around housework and child care have been slow to change, but I think it's naïve to think they haven't changed in the last 20 years," But the latest research shows little change in husband’s participation in core housework in the past two decades: Sociologists refer to this lack of change as the “stalled revolution.” What is most striking about today’s younger generation is not that men are adopting more "fluid definitions of gender" and becoming more engaged in core housework—it is that millions of fathers are not in the home at all.

Where did the myth originate about husbands who do laundry getting more sex ?The authors explain that the misleading media accounts are based on research that failed to take into account how couples divide household chores. While it may be true that men helping around the house increases sexual frequency—how men help makes a difference. Maintaining the car, mowing the lawn or shoveling snow seem to be more arousing than ironing or shopping for dust ruffles. According to the authors, among heterosexual couples, expressions of sexual difference create sexual desire. Gender-linked tasks are far more sexually charged than prominent egalitarians like Naomi Wolf and Sheryl Sandberg would have us believe.

Does this mean husbands can behave like slobs and let their wives do all the washing, cleaning, cooking, and shopping? Definitely not. The authors warn that a man who refuses to help out with core chores is likely to create strife and conflict in the marriage. And with so many women working full-time, what might be best for a couple’s romantic life may be unworkable and unfair in real life.” Each couple will have to work it out for themselves. Not an easy task. Egalitarian “peer marriages” where couples share all domestic tasks equally can be quite happy, report the authors—though they tend to take on a “sibling-like” tonality that “undermines sexual desire.”

What’s a couple to do? This new article is part of the solution. It is a helpful reminder that the sexes are not interchangeable. Couples need to know this. The authors don’t say so, but men and women, taken as a group, don’t merely find conventional sex roles exciting—many seem to like those traditional roles as well. Cheryl Mendelson, author ofHome Comforts: The Art and Science of Keeping House, has a Ph.D. in philosophy and a J.D from Harvard Law, but she confesses to leading a “secret life” as an old-fashioned “housewife.” She adds that the pleasure and comfort of homemaking is “central to my character.” Few men view homemaking as central to their character—but millions of women do. Males are not the market for Family Circle, Better Homes and Gardens, orMarthaStewart.com. A few months ago I found myself at Calico Corners—a fabric store outside DC. The shop was full of purposeful, engaged women busily looking for materials for window treatments and cushion fabrics. In the middle of the store there were some easy chairs filled with a few dazed men waiting patiently to be released. Men have a far more tenuous relationship with housecraft than women.

Some will read these generalizations and cry, “Sexism!” or “Essentialism!” So let’s be clear about what these group comparisons mean. I am talking about statistical averages, not absolutes. Clearly, not all men and women embody the stereotypes of their sex. Though they are not typical, there are women who dislike homemaking and would far prefer reading Popular Mechanics over Traditional Home; and there are men who enjoy many aspects of homemaking. No doubt, there are women for whom nothing is sexier than the sight of their husbands doing the dishes. But, as the new article in the American Sociological Review reminds us, they are a distinct minority. In our search for a solution to the work/life balance conundrum, it is best to begin by telling the truth about who we are.

 

[semtex]

This thread is rife with potent ether. My feelings are hurt and I'm a 22 (and a half ) year old man.

 

[Ashley Banks]

Too young to get married
Get your body count up baby girl

Even the cat is like "what the fukk did I sign up for?", brehs.

That cat is huge. wtf is she feeding it.

 

[Youseenmywork]

Funny thing about those studies... women have way more freedom than they used to in the past and men overall are less 'domineering' and 'masculine'... and are headed more into that adrogynous 50/50 territory, but for some odd reason, women's happiness is going down. Why is that?

Maann kevm they dont get it happy women is a miserable man . A happy man is a happy kindom.
Good post

 

[Ashley Banks]

Well I hope to be married by 27 so

Good luck, babe. Make sure he's a nice guy that worships you.

Does this not speak to a fundamental problem. A woman is simply settling in this situation and does not have the pick of the litter. A woman in her mid 20's aka "prime years" will have no problem getting any man in any age range. But as she gets older that age range closes and in fact shifts all the way to the right of the spectrum.

Wait, how do you know she's settling? Because the guy is older? So any woman that dates you when you're 35+ is settling? Because men over 35 can't be good men, they can't have money and won't be able to take care of you, you can't be friends with a man over 35? The only men that can be good men are under 35?

You do know you can find a good man in any age range, right? According to the coli, men get better with age, so wouldn't that mean the woman that's getting a man that's 35+ is getting the best she can get? Or no?

 

[L&HH]

Good luck, babe. Make sure he's a nice guy that worships you.



Wait, how do you know she's settling? Because the guy is older? So any woman that dates you when you're 35+ is settling? Because men over 35 can't be good men, they can't have money and won't be able to take care of you, you can't be friends with a man over 35? The only men that can be good men are under 35?

You do know you can find a good man in any age range, right? According to the coli, men get better with age, so wouldn't that mean the woman that's getting a man that's 35+ is getting the best she can get? Or no?

No the mere fact that she has a floor in the age-range in which she can choose from, says enough.

 

[KenyaDoll]

Funny thing about those studies... women have way more freedom than they used to in the past and men overall are less 'domineering' and 'masculine'... and are headed more into that adrogynous 50/50 territory, but for some odd reason, women's happiness is going down. Why is that?

Maybe you should do an academic study and find out.

 

[Ashley Banks]

No the mere fact that she has a floor in the age-range in which she can choose from, says enough.

Breh Most women have a floor in the age range they date, I'm 21 and I have one, @KenyaDoll is 28 and she has one. I'm sure that 32 year old can date guys younger than her but since women usually date guys their age or older, I doubt she would want to. You guys say all the time that women prefer older guys but now, it's a bad thing. Men get better with age but now preferring/dating older men is "simply settling".

 

[mamba]

Since we're bringing up 'studies', here's a fun little one for you:

Good article, @kevm3 . Despite all the feminist garbage, women will always desire manly men. They don't want some soft ass dude.

 

[L&HH]

Breh . I'm sure that 32 year old can date guys younger than her but since women usually date guys their age or older, I doubt she would want to.

We both know why she wouldn't want to

 

[Ashley Banks]

We both know why she wouldn't want to

Because most women prefer men that are older.

 

[mamba]

Breh Most women have a floor in the age range they date, I'm 21 and I have one, @KenyaDoll is 28 and she has one. I'm sure that 32 year old can date guys younger than her but since women usually date guys their age or older, I doubt she would want to. You guys say all the time that women prefer older guys but now, it's a bad thing. Men get better with age but now preferring/dating older men is "simply settling".

Yes. Because you aren't getting the cream of the crop among older men when you try to marry at 32 as a woman. The cream of the crop in that age range (and above) of men wife up and seriously date younger. So, in that sense, you are settling. The men you'd actually want are looking elsewhere when you're ready to settle.

Best you can typically do at 32 (unless you're a certified dime with money and status) is the 40 year old dude who's already been divorced and has kids.

Most women in their 30s relax the "I won't date a guys with kids" shyt. Why? It's not because all men have kids. It's because the men paying them serious attention are those older dudes with kids!

Men can stay on their "I won't date a woman with kids" shyt, because they have a wider net they can cast in terms of age range.

 

[Jone2three45]

It's a lot of butt hurt and bitter feelings in this thread