Things in hip hop that are so forgotten they feel retconned

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"Ghetto Techno" being a leaked track. The narrative now is that this is a song that was on BP3. Truthfully, Timbaland played this song around the time BP3 was released teasing it as a song for Shock Value 2 (Timbaland's own album that dropped a few months after BP3). "Ghetto Techno" never made that album either and it remains a leaked song that isn't even HQ.

Lil' Kim and Foxy Brown being on the same song together. They were on Total's "No One Else" remix as was Da Brat. That song is forgotten and the narrative is that Foxy and Kim never got along and Foxy never played nice with other female rappers.

The original Blueprint 3. It is forgotten that a Timbaland produced "Ain't I" leaked in early 2008 with Clue yelling BP3 all over it. Shortly thereafter, a HQ version of the song leaked and Timbaland offered to produce the whole album. Jay's response was that "whoever gives him 10 dope songs does the album". Months later, "Swagger Like Us" leaks as T.I. song featuring Jay Z, Wayne, and Kanye. Well, that song was originally a BP3 song. We got "History", "BK We Go Hard" featuring Santigold, and "Jockin Jay Z", but all those songs flopped and Jay redid the album.

"Crack A Bottle" being a Detox single before becoming an Eminem comeback record.

T.I. dissing Ludacris on Rap City's The Basement

Cee Lo Green being the most featured member of Dungeon Family. Before Andre 3000 was a popular guest rapper or even before Big Boi was popping up seemingly everywhere. Cee Lo was featured on songs with Common, Black Rob, Puff Daddy, and Lil Kim. Most of these were rap features.

Big Boi being the more prominent member of Kast. He was on singles (Missy's "All N My Grill", Trick Daddy's "Dro In The Wind" and Youngloodz "85") and album cuts with artists ranging from Jay Z ("Poppin Tags") to Beyonce ("Hip Hop Star")
 

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swagger like us mixtape version feat : royce.joe budden.charles hamilton and crooked i... no joel ortiz ... both royce and joey havee referenced it.

joe budden ft Eminem black cloud... people say mal or rory just renamed a file to that and posted it...

people forgetting bout clues dessert storm and the potential they had ..

remember paul caine.. he was benny before benny.

justblaze submitted ushers i want u back to detox.

in the club was originally a d12 beat.

kanyes beat on that d12 album.. no em verse though

yg almost signing to jeezy.. freddie actually signing.

wales first single wit lady gaga.

lady gaga being an akons artist.

game being stuck on aftermath years before 50 involvement.
.. he even comes out in 50s in da club video.

ti potentially being signed to bad boy south.

rick ross in the boyz in the hood... and puffs next idea of the groupname being 4 diff southern artist for every release.

ll cool j almost signing to aftermath.

2 chainz almost signing to goodmusic.

that andree 3000 fonzeworth and kanye group.. maybe had cons too..

lupe and. stack.
 

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- Drake, Phonte and J Cole having a song produced by 9th Wonder that never saw the light of day.

- Mark Ronson initially being a hip-hop producer and signing Wale. Attention Deficit was released under his imprint alongside Interscope.

- Roc Marciano being a part of Flipmode

- Blu being poised to go mainstream when he signed to Warner after Below the Heavens.

- Jay Rock being the first member of TDE to release an album on a major label.
 

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Crack A Bottle was originally a Detox single? :dwillhuh:

Yes. It got leaked and it was initially billed as Dr. Dre featuring Eminem and 50. The entire roll out for those albums was Detox, Relapse, Before I Self Destruct. It didn't pan out that way and they even had another Dr. Dre and Eminem song ready that they tied into commercials for the big Mayweather fight that year. Only a snippet of that song exists.
 
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Yes. It got leaked and it was initially billed as Dr. Dre featuring Eminem and 50. The entire roll out for those albums was Detox, Relapse, Before I Self Destruct. It didn't pan out that way and they even had another Dr. Dre and Eminem song ready that they tied into commercials for the big Mayweather fight that year. Only a snippet of that song exists.

:ohhh:
 

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I hope that Mos/Mannie album was actually recorded. Then we have some hope it might one day get released in some form.
As far as I know, I’ve seen separate interviews from both saying it’s done. No idea why it never dropped. There’s a Mystikal album produced by Mannie that never came out either
 

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Nas's original God's Son is something that gets lost in the shuffle. The version that was released was a more "peaceful" album than the one he was going to release. Nas was about to Makaveli the game, but decided near the last minute to change the direction of the album. He was letting everybody have it. Some of the titles were:

F Hot (getting at Hot 97)

Grimey Ways

Crabs In A Barrel

My Will (part of this leaked as "Honeymoon Over")

There was an alternate version of "Hey Nas" produced by The Tracmasters featuring XO. "Ridin' Broke" was the Braveheart joint instead of "Zone Out". The album was 12 songs as the tracklist was up on Amazon.
 

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- Drake, Phonte and J Cole having a song produced by 9th Wonder that never saw the light of day.

- Mark Ronson initially being a hip-hop producer and signing Wale. Attention Deficit was released under his imprint alongside Interscope.

- Roc Marciano being a part of Flipmode

- Blu being poised to go mainstream when he signed to Warner after Below the Heavens.

- Jay Rock being the first member of TDE to release an album on a major label.
Never heard of the Phonte, Cole and Drake track
 

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Collabs that exist that never came out:

Gucci Mane feat Lloyd Banks

the Kendrick/J Cole album



Swizz Beatz feat Jay Z, Nas, DMX and Jadakiss

Nas produced by Just Blaze

Meek Mill feat Lloyd Banks

lloyd banks feat Lil durk

nelly and Dr Dre detox sessions Nelly Hits the Studio with Dr. Dre

Jadakiss feat Ludacris - knock yourself out remix... during Luda vs nelly Verzuz battle Luda claims it’s his best feature verse and it never came out

Lil Wayne feat DaBaby and Lil Wayne feat Young Thug for The Funeral sessions https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hotnewhiphop.com/lil-waynes-funeral-had-young-thug-dababy-features-news.104369.html?_amp

T-Pain originally on the hook to Twista make a movie instead of chris brown

the original verse T.I. did on swagger like us leaked years ago but I can’t find a link at the moment

also Daz and Kurupt were originally on Jagged Edge where the party at instead of nelly. It leaked years ago but I can’t find it online anywhere. You can still hear some of their ad libs on the nelly version

Daz and Kurupt don’t stop originally had Nas instead of 2pac

Lupe feat Chris Brown

Migos feat Lupe
big krit feat lupe
Schoolboy q feat lupe


 
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