The white man getting blacks to call each other *****...

[MeachTheMonster]

it only makes sense we adopt new sayings and ways of living(eating the scraps of an animal)

I'd like to address this since I've seen plenty of people saying it and it couldn't be further from the truth. If anything white folks gave us the idea that animal innards are bad. Our ancestors and most ethnic people accross the world consume animal innards because they are in some ways more nutritious than the more popular cuts of meat. Back when we all had to work hard to make a living (farming, hunting, etc) it was beneficial to eat the cuts of meat that contained more fat and calories and iron, protein, etc. it's once the white man made it to America and started siting in his ass the he came up with the idea that animal innards were not fit for consumption.

Another thing, I always see people on this site dissing soul food, as if blacks are unique in eating this way. Most cultures traditional foods are considered unhealthy today. For the same reasons as above, cooking with full fats , and hearty foods was beneficial to people back in the day. It holds true for almost all cultures, traditional Italian food is bad for you, same with French, Spanish, or any other culture you can speak of.

Since our lifestyles have changed, we should enjoy our traditional foods in moderation. But this idea that the white man is who made us eat this way couldn't be further from the truth.

 

[theworldismine13]

I dont get why people are throwing so many problems behind this word

Its a symptom, not a cause

a symptom of what? i thought yall were saying there is nothing wrong with saying nicca, isnt a symptom a bad thing?

 

[theworldismine13]

I agree with you, but the word nikka is not the problem. It's not just black people but America in general applauds ignorance and shuns affluence. Everywhere from the smallest ghetto in Chicago to our presidential elections, being educated is views as a bad thing. The problem comes from the fact that there are way more "have-nots" than "havs" in America so the majority shuns the minority mainly out of jealousy. This dynamic is exaggerated in the black community because our wealth gap is even larger.

nah, one thing i agree with the "pro nikka" people is that white people are irrelevant to the conversation

the general ignorance of american culture ie white people is a different subject

lets keep the discussion strictly on black people, if white people jump off a bridge are we gonna jump in with them?

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

I'd like to address this since I've seen plenty of people saying it and it couldn't be further from the truth. If anything white folks gave us the idea that animal innards are bad. Our ancestors and most ethnic people accross the world consume animal innards because they are in some ways more nutritious than the more popular cuts of meat. Back when we all had to work hard to make a living (farming, hunting, etc) it was beneficial to eat the cuts of meat that contained more fat and calories and iron, protein, etc. it's once the white man made it to America and started siting in his ass the he came up with the idea that animal innards were not fit for consumption.

Another thing, I always see people on this site dissing soul food, as if blacks are unique in eating this way. Most cultures traditional foods are considered unhealthy today. For the same reasons as above, cooking with full fats , and hearty foods was beneficial to people back in the day. It holds true for almost all cultures, traditional Italian food is bad for you, same with French, Spanish, or any other culture you can speak of.

Since our lifestyles have changed, we should enjoy our traditional foods in moderation. But this idea that the white man is who made us eat this way couldn't be further from the truth.

breh there is nothing nutritious and healthy about eating a pig infested with diseases innards or eating chicken feet that walk in shyt all day there is a huge difference between the farmer man who raises and breeds all his animals that he may consume or use for milk and a plantation slave with a spiked collar on his neck eating food cooked only so we survive to keep working and make more kids

edit: and the reason "soul food" is bad is mostly how its made as well not what it is being made

 

[MeachTheMonster]

nah, one thing i agree with the "pro nikka" people is that white people are irrelevant to the conversation

the general ignorance of american culture ie white people is a different subject

lets keep the discussion strictly on black people, if white people jump off a bridge are we gonna jump in with them?

You can't keep the discussion just on black people because at the end of the day we are all Americans and we all subscribe to American culture. We fought to not be separate now we have somewhat achieved that goal and you want to separate us again.

Any analysis of black people in America has to start with AMERICA.

 

[theworldismine13]

I'd like to address this since I've seen plenty of people saying it and it couldn't be further from the truth. If anything white folks gave us the idea that animal innards are bad. Our ancestors and most ethnic people accross the world consume animal innards because they are in some ways more nutritious than the more popular cuts of meat. Back when we all had to work hard to make a living (farming, hunting, etc) it was beneficial to eat the cuts of meat that contained more fat and calories and iron, protein, etc. it's once the white man made it to America and started siting in his ass the he came up with the idea that animal innards were not fit for consumption.

Another thing, I always see people on this site dissing soul food, as if blacks are unique in eating this way. Most cultures traditional foods are considered unhealthy today. For the same reasons as above, cooking with full fats , and hearty foods was beneficial to people back in the day. It holds true for almost all cultures, traditional Italian food is bad for you, same with French, Spanish, or any other culture you can speak of.

Since our lifestyles have changed, we should enjoy our traditional foods in moderation. But this idea that the white man is who made us eat this way couldn't be further from the truth.

i havent seen it but this doc deals with the issue



but regardless of where it came from, i think we have to do an audit of our culture and move ahead with the things that help us and get rid of the things that are not helping us or are hurting us

thats really where im coming from, in my audit of black culture, nikka stands out as a useless, harmful habit that we have, i dont see how nikka goes along with a healthy prosperous black race

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

when people that arent black are saying it, when its used in every single rap song and when black people can't create a sentence without using it

if there was a strategy behind this then I would love to hear it but i think whats going on is that people are just letting things happen because "that's what nikkaz do"

Its not in every rap song, and most black people don't use it in every sentence. Why the hyperbole?

And the word was invented by racist white people... there always have been, are, and will be racist white people and thus always a group of non-blacks who use the word. Why/how is it black people's responsibility to change that? Black people can't even control what other black people do

a symptom of what? i thought yall were saying there is nothing wrong with saying nicca, isnt a symptom a bad thing?

When did I say that?

And extensive use of epithets and expletives is a symptom of a weak vocabulary, often indicative of a lack of education. Again though, just because one uses the word doesn't mean they are uneducated or whatever. Its cultural too

You are just trying to shyt on black people, as always

 

[MeachTheMonster]

breh there is nothing nutritious and healthy about eating a pig infested with diseases innards or eating chicken feet that walk in shyt all day there is a huge difference between the farmer man who raises and breeds all his animals that he may consume or use for milk and a plantation slave with a spiked collar on his neck eating food cooked only so we survive to keep working and make more kids

edit: and the reason "soul food" is bad is mostly how its made as well not what it is being made

Who said anything about diseased meat, that's not black people culture. As for chicken feat they hold a lot of protien, what wrong with that? There is a difference between a farmer eating his own meat and a slave being served. But the idea that innards are bad came from the rich white folks, not our ancestors.

It's ironic that you wanna blame white folks for this part of our culture, when its actually the white folks who planted the idea that it was bad in the first place.

What do you mean by "the way would food is cooked"?

 

[theworldismine13]

You can't keep the discussion just on black people because at the end of the day we are all Americans and we all subscribe to American culture. We fought to not be separate now we have somewhat achieved that goal and you want to separate us again.

Any analysis of black people in America has to start with AMERICA.

you can discuss it anyway you want, both discussions of ignorance (amongst black people or amongst americans in general) are legit

I think that's a fine discussion to have, but the discussion of the word nikka is mostly a black thing, just like the discussion of soul food, you can insert white people into it if you want, but i dont really see a need

 

[MeachTheMonster]

i havent seen it but this doc deals with the issue

"Soul Food Junkies" Teaser by Byron Hurt - YouTube

but regardless of where it came from, i think we have to do an audit of our culture and move ahead with the things that help us and get rid of the things that are not helping us or are hurting us

thats really where im coming from, in my audit of black culture, nikka stands out as a useless, harmful habit that we have, i dont see how nikka goes along with a healthy prosperous black race

Like I said we should enjoy our traditional foods in moderation. But the idea that the white man caused us to eat this way is a total fallacy.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

America in general has some pretty awful eating habits, but of course TWISM only takes issue with black people's eating habits and refuses to talk about how the broader context might affect us.

"We gotta do better"

 

[MeachTheMonster]

you can discuss it anyway you want, both discussions of ignorance (amongst black people or amongst americans in general) are legit

I think that's a fine discussion to have, but the discussion of the word nikka is mostly a black thing, just like the discussion of soul food, you can insert white people into it if you want, but i dont really see a need

The word nikka is a black thing just as soul food is. But the events and ideals that got us there are worldwide and shared by plenty of cultures. You can't put us in a box with only ourselves, because our culture wasn't shaped in a box with only ourselves

 

[theworldismine13]

Its not in every rap song, and most black people don't use it in every sentence. Why the hyperbole?

its not hyperbole, i challenge you to post a recent song that doesnt use it

yeah i agree that most black people dont use it in every sentence, that isnt what i said, you asked my why i think its out of control and there are enough that do so therefore its out of control imo

And the word was invented by racist white people... there always have been, are, and will be racist white people and thus always a group of non-blacks who use the word. Why/how is it black people's responsibility to change that? Black people can't even control what other black people do

im referring to whites, hispanics and asians using it as a "term of endearment" and people saying it because its used in popular songs

but i never said its black people's repsonsibility to control what other people say, what i said is that we need to control what we say

When did I say that?

my bad, maybe it wasnt you, but i thought that was the gist of the pro nikka argument, that there is nothing wrong with saying nicca

And extensive use of epithets and expletives is a symptom of a weak vocabulary, often indicative of a lack of education. Again though, just because one uses the word doesn't mean they are uneducated or whatever. Its cultural too

but education starts with culture, if you dont correct the culture itself you cant have well educated people, thats why i think black people need to discuss black culture

You are just trying to shyt on black people, as always

mos def, i think its important to shyt on black people that are not doing things that are pushing black people forward

 

[theworldismine13]

America in general has some pretty awful eating habits, but of course TWISM only takes issue with black people's eating habits and refuses to talk about how the broader context might affect us.

"We gotta do better"

yeah that is correct, i focus on improving black people, and?

i love america but if america goes to hell in hand basket i have to make sure black people are good, cuz im black

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

Who said anything about diseased meat, that's not black people culture. As for chicken feat they hold a lot of protien, what wrong with that? There is a difference between a farmer eating his own meat and a slave being served. But the idea that innards are bad came from the rich white folks, not our ancestors.

It's ironic that you wanna blame white folks for this part of our culture, when its actually the white folks who planted the idea that it was bad in the first place.

What do you mean by "the way would food is cooked"?

exactly @ the bolded..i wasnt very specific from what i originally said but i didnt mean eating innards is what white people taught us i ment more that white people gave us the scraps as in the dog food of it all or crude food and we took that and ran with it - as in slaves eating whatever the slaver gives them(not the liver or something along those lines but fecal filled intestines) to the "free man" eating whatever the white man says is good even if its not according to modern medicine and science


when i say the way food is cooked i mean how its made of course chicken wings deep fried in pig fat genetically modified corn oil with salt and sugar sprinkled in the batter with a heap of hotsauce thrown all over top of it once its hot n ready type cooking

you could eat that same chicken wing alot healthier obviously though and could still consider it "soul food"