The white man getting blacks to call each other *****...

[mbewane]

Obviously how can it be "just a word", and then some are offended if non-black people use it? There's got to be some kind of contradiction there, or else you mean it's just a word among black people, and then it becomes strange that you/we refuse to let others used it based on their color...but are ok to use it amongst ourselves for that same reason. and that's not even the case, because you wouldn't use "n***a" in certain contexts with other black people, even though "it's just a word".

And how many other cultures have words that they say is ok for them to use, but not for others? I can't think of one (it might exist though). Do Chinese people call themselves "c***ks"? Do Italians call themselves "w*ps"? I've travelled a bit and I've never heard something similar among other minorities. I might hear arab people call themselves the derogatory french term, but that's almost only when one is making a joke specifically about race, not on some everyday "what up my n***a" to say hi.

But obviously it's much more than a word, term of endearment, "real recognize real" and all that...but one must wonder why is precisely THAT word that has been chosen? Why not "brother", "homie", "my man" etc. Not "strong" enough? But then what makes "n***a" strong, is it not...the fact that it was used by whites to insult black men? So in a sense, is using "n***a" not, again, using the white man's "weapon" instead of creating/using a term of endearment that would come from within the black community? I can understand the logic: making something positive out of something negative, but the point is, it's not really positive since we refrain from using it in certain contexts and don't allow others to use. This thread wouldn't exist if it was "just a word" and all good...So somewhere, we know that even us using it is not really a positive...

 

[MeachTheMonster]

its a negative word no matter which way you slice it, the word nikka is part of an overall anti academic culture that infects black culture, it should definitely be eliminated and not because of white people, it has to do with transforming black culture

IMO the reason why people say it doesnt matter is becuase they are convinced that the white man is the devil and that all the bad things that happen to black people derive from the devilish white man, when you are convinced another power is responsible for your situation than you dont see any need to improve yourself, and black people dont really see any need to change their our language and culture, they think its fine

nikka i think is equivalent to soul food, in that its bad for you, period, but people will continue eating it because its their culture and dont see any reason to change their culture when the real problem with black health is the "devil", that logic is bad imo

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Before I respond to this, are you black?

 

[Tommy Knocks]

i dont say nikka a tenth as much irl as i do on here. but these coli nikkas...

this.

I only say it around my peoples. I dont feel comfortable dropping around 'others' might give them the wrong idea. its hard to explain why I feel its an in club word, I just do. its almost a version of mocking 'the man' or something, I dont know .

hip hop def brought the cat out the bag tho, on top of the age of information that shyt is common language now.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

its not what you say its how you say it

 

[mbewane]

its not what you say its how you say it

I agree to a certain extent, because wouldn't that then mean that ANYONE can say it, if with the right tone/context? I don't think that's the case?

And (not directed at you) is there ANY other ethnic group/minority that has a way of calling themselves that is OK for them in certain contexts, but not for others or in other contexts? That's what I find the strangest...Native Americans, Asians, Arabs, Jews, Muslims, Caucasians...? Seems to me that it is an afro-american specificity, so I guess it is about "sticking it to the man"...but is it really sticking it to him when he's probably laughing while we call ourselves what he called us to insult us?

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

I agree to a certain extent, because wouldn't that then mean that ANYONE can say it, if with the right tone/context? I don't think that's the case?

And (not directed at you) is there ANY other ethnic group/minority that has a way of calling themselves that is OK for them in certain contexts, but not for others or in other contexts? That's what I find the strangest...Native Americans, Asians, Arabs, Jews, Muslims, Caucasians...? Seems to me that it is an afro-american specificity, so I guess it is about "sticking it to the man"...but is it really sticking it to him when he's probably laughing while we call ourselves what he called us to insult us?

it would mean that anyone can say it but what business does everyone have saying it in the first place? i say as well

(just an example)sort of like a group of women can call themselves bytches all day long but the context and/or intent behind it is known within this specific group to be closely related to saying sister amongst eachother

a group of men can take that saying and use it to their own desires with eachother but in the company of those same women they would be calling eachother sister which is something they could never really be so they have no REAL reason to call eachother that no matter how they say it

but bring it back to these same women and really they have no business calling themselves bytches either because its real meaning is a female dog in english so they shouldnt even be using it to describe or address themselves the same as the men shouldnt


replace women with black people and men with any other race/ethnicity of people and bytch with nikka

 

[mbewane]

it would mean that anyone can say it but what business does everyone have saying it in the first place? i say as well

(just an example)sort of like a group of women can call themselves bytches all day long but the context and/or intent behind it is known within this specific group to be closely related to saying sister amongst eachother

a group of men can take that saying and use it to their own desires with eachother but in the company of those same women they would be calling eachother sister which is something they could never really be so they have no REAL reason to call eachother that no matter how they say it

but bring it back to these same women and really they have no business calling themselves bytches either because its real meaning is a female dog in english so they shouldnt even be using it to describe or address themselves the same as the men shouldnt


replace women with black people and men with any other race/ethnicity of people and bytch with nikka

But isn't that somewhat different though? Aren't there some men who DO call women "bytch" as a term of endearment? "Me and my bytch"...you won't see a white man come out with a "Me and my n***as" track PLUS b*tches is widely used by men, in a "good" or bad way, whereas "n*ggas" isn't that widely used by non-Black people.

I see what you're saying, I just feel there's some fundamental difference somewhere there, also historically, women were deemed "inferior" in retarded ages, but they were not enslave/killed BECAUSE they were women. I don't know, can't really put my finger on it.

 

[emoney]

I'm tired of these types of discussions.

There are other more important things Black people could and should be talking about such as

1. building strong defined Black communities
2. strengthening African diaspora-continental relations (important to sovereignty)
3. building back up a Black manufacturing base (important to employment)
4. emphasizing food and water independence (important to ALL of our freedom)
5. promoted math and science to young Black kids (important when it comes to technological innovation and advances)

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I'm tired of these types of discussions.

There are other more important things Black people could and should be talking about such as

1. building strong defined Black communities
2. strengthening African diaspora-continental relations (important to sovereignty)
3. building back up a Black manufacturing base (important to employment)
4. emphasizing food and water independence (important to ALL of our freedom)
5. promoted math and science to young Black kids (important when it comes to technological innovation and advances)

I agree with all this, but we're talking about nikkas here

 

[theworldismine13]

Before I respond to this, are you black?

Yeah, are you?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Yeah, are you?

Definitely, but I don't feel anything like you described in that paragraph. If you were not black i woulda told you that you couldn't speak on how black people feel. But since you are black I'll just accept that we feel differently about the word.

 

[theworldismine13]

it would mean that anyone can say it but what business does everyone have saying it in the first place? i say as well

(just an example)sort of like a group of women can call themselves bytches all day long but the context and/or intent behind it is known within this specific group to be closely related to saying sister amongst eachother

a group of men can take that saying and use it to their own desires with eachother but in the company of those same women they would be calling eachother sister which is something they could never really be so they have no REAL reason to call eachother that no matter how they say it

but bring it back to these same women and really they have no business calling themselves bytches either because its real meaning is a female dog in english so they shouldnt even be using it to describe or address themselves the same as the men shouldnt


replace women with black people and men with any other race/ethnicity of people and bytch with nikka

Unless you live under a rock you would know it isn't just black people saying nikka, everybody says nikka and also it's the whole movement where black people use nikka in every sentence

What is the purpose of all that?

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

But isn't that somewhat different though? Aren't there some men who DO call women "bytch" as a term of endearment? "Me and my bytch"...you won't see a white man come out with a "Me and my n***as" track PLUS b*tches is widely used by men, in a "good" or bad way, whereas "n*ggas" isn't that widely used by non-Black people.

I see what you're saying, I just feel there's some fundamental difference somewhere there, also historically, women were deemed "inferior" in retarded ages, but they were not enslave/killed BECAUSE they were women. I don't know, can't really put my finger on it.

it is different but white men might not call themselves or make tracks like me and my nikkas but they make tracks like this















the main difference to me though between the bytches&nikkas thing though is ****** is literally a b*stardized version of negro created by white people


check out the definition they added to it though in the dictionary


3.
a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised.

 

[theworldismine13]

Definitely, but I don't feel anything like you described in that paragraph. If you were not black i woulda told you that you couldn't speak on how black people feel. But since you are black I'll just accept that we feel differently about the word.

Yeah I remember, you believe strongly in calling your kid nikka, and you are proud about being a nikka, which I I'm against, I think black people are doing something wrong with all that

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

Unless you live under a rock you would know it isn't just black people saying nikka, everybody says nikka and also it's the whole movement where black people use nikka in every sentence

What is the purpose of all that?

i think your missing the point here friend like butter knives