The UFO/UAP disclosure thread
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But are we in view of them?
It's an interesting question. I definitely have no idea whether someone has detected us or not. But I spent years fukking around with relativity and astrophysics and the shape of the universe, and I'm pretty well convinced (and disappointed!) that if anyone was close enough to reach us, we'd be able to see them. Maybe they can see us from further away than we can see them, but they can't reach us unless they're close enough for us to see them. That could all be thrown out the window if there were wormholes, ways to warp space-time, etc., but all the evidence I've seen suggests that spacetime is three-dimensionally "flat" and thus there aren't any bends in the system to really exploit.
We may not be able to exploit it (yet) but we know that it can be manipulated.
The clocks on satellites need to be adjusted because of the effects of both special and general relativity.
First, special relativity predicts that time appears to run slower for objects that are moving at high speeds relative to each other. This effect, known as time dilation, means that the clocks on satellites, which are traveling at high speeds relative to observers on the ground, will appear to run slower than clocks on the Earth's surface.
Second, general relativity predicts that time appears to run slower in regions with stronger gravitational fields. This effect, known as gravitational time dilation, means that the clocks on satellites, which orbit at higher altitudes above the Earth's surface where the gravitational field is weaker, will appear to run faster than clocks on the Earth's surface.
These two effects work in opposite directions, with the time dilation due to special relativity causing the clocks on satellites to run slower, while the time dilation due to general relativity causes them to run faster. The net effect is that the clocks on satellites will gain time relative to clocks on the Earth's surface, and therefore need to be adjusted periodically to maintain synchronization with time standards on the ground.
If gravity can be manipulated or simulated on a large enough scale then all bets are off.
Breh, I was reading Einstein's book on relativity when I was 16 and doing the calculations myself when I was 17. Trust me, I've tried to explore every reasonable way to work through this. The issues are:
1) Special relativity is not a manipulation of space-time, it's simply an extremely bewildering issue of frame of reference. By definition, nothing in special relativity can alter the time or space of the spacetime in that frame (or any other), it's just that spacetime in other frames is perceived differently.
2) General relativity shows that you indeed can warp spacetime with gravity. However, the scale of that manipulation is in line with the r^2 scale of gravity, meaning that the most manipulation occurs close to the object of extreme mass and the impact dissipates rapidly the further away you are. Since 3D space appears to be basically flat, there's no way to manipulate spacetime over giant distances. If the universe were shaped differently, like with bends and such, then perhaps we'd have a chance, but all our experimentation suggests those bends do not exist. When I was a kid I used to come up with all sorts of exotic ideas to bend space in order to look back in time, but in reality pretty much none of my ideas have any merit at all.
Recently there's been a jump in interest in "warp drives", where you simultaneously shrink spacetime in front of you while expanding it behind you and somehow accelerate yourself to incredible speeds at the same time. But there are so many holes in the theories that I don't give them any credence.
fair enough. It doesn't help that so many of the witness accounts are so outlandish and WE STILL don't have solid evidence (clear photographs and videos). Are you familiar with the work of Jacques Valle? He's been studying the phenomena for decades and seems to think the phenomena cannot be easily explained to extraterrestrials and that it may be kind of control mechanism guiding humanity along a certain path.
Watch the video below. It sounds crazy but its worth a watch. I live for this stuff no matter how wacky it sounds.
There are other animals out there. 
This is some depressing scary shyt right here
Or exciting.
Extinction level events that decimate civilization is not exciting to me son
what if the animals are the aliensThere are other animals out there.
This is a good article about how aliens might be intelligent machines. It's a very interesting idea
news.yahoo.com
Have Aliens Evolved Into Intelligent Machines?
Photo Illustration by Kelly Caminero / The Daily Beast / GettyIf alien life is out there, what do you think it’s like? I was surprised how often that question led astronomers and astrobiologists to talk about machines. Not the machines aliens might use, or the machines with which we might find...
