The UFO/UAP disclosure thread

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these recent incidents seem contrived to me. could be a foreign gov or some rogue agency trolling. now they got us wasting a milli in jet fuel and ordinance shooting down bs.


I think it's mostly just innocuous shyt, but you're right on the military waste. US gov looks really incompetent here - every step from the initial slow reaction followed by the rash overreactions without thought followed by terrible PR from beginning to end.


Looks pretty likely that the 2nd of the three unidentified objects shot down was a $12 hobbyist balloon from Illinois that was being tracked doing circumnavigations:

 

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I think it's mostly just innocuous shyt, but you're right on the military waste. US gov looks really incompetent here - every step from the initial slow reaction followed by the rash overreactions without thought followed by terrible PR from beginning to end.


Looks pretty likely that the 2nd of the three unidentified objects shot down was a $12 hobbyist balloon from Illinois that was being tracked doing circumnavigations:


The U.S. should have nuked all of them out of the sky.
 

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Funny how ufo sightings increased once humans started testing nuclear bombs back in the 50, and 60s… that ain’t no coincidence

Um, it was also the time that people started flying lots of things in the sky. :pachaha:

Sort of how another increase came the exact moment that drones began to proliferate. :patrice:
 

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im pretty sure that's the same time the alien movies got good...

Yup, they've noticed that the rash in alien attack/abduction movies pretty much perfectly predicts the rash in alien abduction stories. Before 1950 Hollywood rarely made alien stories and they were usually comic book-style stuff. Then starting in 1950 they were pumping out 5+ alien movies every year, many of which riffed off of the classic Kenneth Arnold "flying saucer" sighting of 1947. Over time the movies began to coalesce around certain themes and images, and, unsurprisingly, the alien abduction stories began to match just afterwards.


For example, while there were occasional rare claims of alien sightings before the 1960s (I'm talking actual alien beings as opposed to UFOs), their details were all over the place. These are the stories I can find before 1964 that describe the aliens themselves:


1897: H.G. Shaw claims he and his friend were harassed by three tall, slender humanoids covered in fine downy hair, but were able to fight them off

1897: Farmer in Missouri reports seeing alien that was "naked, golden hair down to her waist, most beautiful woman ever", flying a 20 foot long ship powered with 6 foot across propellers

1897: West Virginia man reports seeing eight Martians that were 11-12 feet tall and flew an illuminated craft with propellers

1951: Fred Reagan claimed his airplane was hit by a UFO, which was piloted by beings that looked like metallic stalks of asparagus

1953: George Adamski publishes a book claiming to have encountered nice-looking aliens with blond hair dressed in white robes.


Note - none of those previous stories involve anyone being abducted by the aliens.



In 1953, the film "Invaders from Mars" comes out. In it, aliens kidnap small-town Americans, do strange experiments on them, and implant mind-control devices in the back of their necks. Then in 1955, the film "This Island Earth" has aliens kidnapping American scientists in order to save their home planet.

Within a couple years, stories involving not just seeing aliens but being abducted by them suddenly appear, though the details are still all over the map:


1957: Antônio Vilas-Boas claimed he was seized by a 5' tall being with small blue eyes that communicated by barking. After being taken to the ship, he was forced to impregnant a very attractive naked humanoid alien that had a small pointed chin and blue catlike eyes, long platinum blonde hair on her head but bright red underarm and pubic hair.

1961: Barney Hill originally says he saw numerous humanoid aliens wearing glossy black uniforms and black caps that were "somehow not quite human", but doesn't say they abducted them. Months later, Betty Hill reported that the aliens abducted them and performed experiments. She describes them as short and nearly human-like with black hair, dark eyes, prominent noses, bluish lips, and grayish skin. They wore matching blue uniforms, with caps similar to those worn by military cadets, and were "not frightening" in appearance.


Neither of those stories were widely reported at the time. But the next three years continued to have many alien TV shows and movies, several with abduction themes, including these two TV episodes in particular: "Hocus Pocus and Frisby" from The Twilight Zone and "The Bellero Shield" from The Outer Limits


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Notice they look nothing like the Betty/Barney Hill aliens or any others that had been reported by real people. They're not very human-like, they have no hair, they have virtually no noses, their lips aren't colored, they're not wearing caps, and their eyes are odd and far larger than in the previous stories.


On April 22, 1964, Barney Hill changed his story under hypnosis and now reported that the aliens who abducted them had "pear-shaped heads and large wrap-around eyes." That's the first time those features were mentioned, and they bear interesting similarities to the Outer Limits alien that had been televised just 12 days earlier.

The Betty and Barney Hill stories, which had been little known before then, first became widely publicized in 1965 and 1966, though front-page news stories, TV shows such as "To Tell the Truth", the first major book on alien abduction in 1966, then a major movie in 1975. Soon after that reports of aliens looking like "Grays" became commonplace, matching the 1964 Barney Hill description which seems to in many respects be a fanciful interpretation of the Outer Limits alien.
 

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This is scary as shyt
The rabbithole goes much deeper and it can start to get pretty wacky if you go far enough. I've been studying UFOs for a few years now and I've come to the conclusion that there is definitely a presence here. And they've probably been interacting with this planet longer than we've been here. Outside of that I have no idea what these things can be.
 

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The rabbithole goes much deeper and it can start to get pretty wacky if you go far enough. I've been studying UFOs for a few years now and I've come to the conclusion that there is definitely a presence here. And they've probably been interacting with this planet longer than we've been here. Outside of that I have no idea what these things can be.


Here’s something that concerns me. 50 years ago this documentary I posted below was made with FULL cooperation of the department of defense and Nasa. It includes statement from various government officials and nasa with documented UFO’s captured during space missions. This is coming directly from their mouth, with evidence provided.




At this point you have to be blind to disregard the testimony of all these professionals. What I believe is this, a higher intelligence is operating with impunity over our airspace. We are no longer top of the food chain. Collectively We are used to being the observers, not the observed. Admitting it doesn’t solve the issue of what to do about it. It may be repeatable in observations but not repeatable in bringing forth. A mouse in a cage realizing he’s being filmed brings no further insight other than knowing it’s being filmed. These things operate past our known capability. From the military, specifically the Air Force standpoint we don’t want to fukk with these things and stir up the hornets nest. That why I believe the Air Force has been so resistant since project blue book. They know it’s there but know there is nothing they can do about it. That why they deny until they can replicate. Admitting you don’t have air superiority now defeats the purpose of your organization existing.
 
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