The specter that still haunts capitalism

[Tha Sircus]

Anarcho-communism stresses egalitarianism and the abolition of social hierarchy and class distinctions arising from unequal wealth distribution, as well as the abolition of money and private property

I don't like the way this sounds tbh. I want to own stuff and buy stuff too.

Each individual and group would be free to contribute to production and to satisfy their needs based on their own choice. Systems of production and distribution would be managed by their participants.


Participants? So other people decide what I get? Nah


Anarchist communists argue that there is no valid way of measuring the value of any one person's economic contributions because all wealth is a collective product of current and preceding generations.[91]



This can't be for real right? Im gonna need some further elaboration on this.

intellectual property rights would also cease, since they are a form of private property.


Brehs this cannot be what you guys are advocating for. We gonna let China just bootleg our music and movies?



@JahFocus CS @Swavy Karl Marx

 

[Tha Sircus]

And that was just one of the links.

 

[CHL]

Use Wikipedia as a source Brehs

Huh? Wikipedia is actually a far better souce for many things than it is portrayed as, especially since it provides links throughout.

 

[CHL]

Putting the WOAT on Ignore

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@Melbournelad @Swavy Karl Marx

It's becoming a HL movement

#IgnoreWOAT

Apu wherever you are

 

[Tate]

Anarcho-communism stresses egalitarianism and the abolition of social hierarchy and class distinctions arising from unequal wealth distribution, as well as the abolition of money and private property

I don't like the way this sounds tbh. I want to own stuff and buy stuff too.

Each individual and group would be free to contribute to production and to satisfy their needs based on their own choice. Systems of production and distribution would be managed by their participants.


Participants? So other people decide what I get? Nah


Anarchist communists argue that there is no valid way of measuring the value of any one person's economic contributions because all wealth is a collective product of current and preceding generations.[91]



This can't be for real right? Im gonna need some further elaboration on this.

intellectual property rights would also cease, since they are a form of private property.


Brehs this cannot be what you guys are advocating for. We gonna let China just bootleg our music and movies?



@JahFocus CS @Swavy Karl Marx

Participants managing distribution just means you have control over what you make. Distribution is already controlled by others, here it's controlled by the people who actually make products.

China wouldn't bootleg anything because China wouldn't exist.

Personnel property is not private property, you can own personnel items. You cant own resources or the economy, those belong to everyone.

 

[Tha Sircus]

Participants managing distribution just means you have control over what you make. Distribution is already controlled by others, here it's controlled by the people who actually make products.

China wouldn't bootleg anything because China wouldn't exist.

Personnel property is not private property, you can own personnel items. You cant own resources or the economy, those belong to everyone.

What about a house? Is that personal or private?



And what you mean China dosent exist? You saying yall would nuke em?

 

[OsO]

1) Every economy in the world is a mixed economy. Nobody is pure capitalism, socialism or whatever.

2) You put corrupt, greedy people in charge of any system and it will be f*cked.

3) Can you imagine our current crop of politicians leading a mostly "socialist" system With all the wealth and resources centralized it would be like Christmas

 

[JahFocus CS]

Anarcho-communism stresses egalitarianism and the abolition of social hierarchy and class distinctions arising from unequal wealth distribution, as well as the abolition of money and private property

I don't like the way this sounds tbh. I want to own stuff and buy stuff too.

It is important to understand the distinction between private property and personal property. Personal property - your clothes, house, toothbrush, car, computer, etc. - these aren't shared by all. What becomes social property is the means of production - the machinery, apparatuses, land, etc. required and used to build those things that people take as personal property. This makes sense because the means of production is already used socially under capitalism (workers are hired to labor with these tools to produce), but the benefits it produces are privatized (the wealth produced by workers laboring with the means of production is controlled by owners of capital).

Participants? So other people decide what I get? Nah

What do you do for a living? Do you own a business that has employees? Or are you a worker? Don't other people decide what you get now?

If you are a worker, are you a member of a union? If not, why not? Does your employer have an at-will employment cause? Would you like to have a higher wage (if so, that is not directly in your boss' material interests)?

This can't be for real right? Im gonna need some further elaboration on this.

Everything non-natural thing we see around us is the product of labor either past or present, and even natural spaces have been cared for and preserved by people past and present. It is merely saying that all labor is valuable. You may think that doctors are important, but if no one prepared food or taught children, what would society amount to?

intellectual property rights would also cease, since they are a form of private property.

Yes, intellectual property rights would cease. That doesn't mean that inventors would not be acknowledged for discovering or inventing something. Intellectual property rights lead to things in our day and age such as restricting access to medicine, pushing farmers into poverty as corporations patent their crops and prevent them from growing them, etc.

Brehs this cannot be what you guys are advocating for. We gonna let China just bootleg our music and movies?

What is "our music and movies?" In a digital age, why shouldn't entertainment be freely accessible? Why should that be restricted?

You see free access as a principle already on the internet with people freely sharing movies, TV shows, and music. That's communistic. And people love it.

 

[CHL]

What is "our music and movies?" In a digital age, why shouldn't entertainment be freely accessible? Why should that be restricted?

You see free access as a principle already on the internet with people freely sharing movies, TV shows, and music. That's communistic. And people love it.

shhhhhh don't tell em

 

[JahFocus CS]

What about a house? Is that personal or private?

And what you mean China dosent exist? You saying yall would nuke em?

See my post above on personal vs. private property. This isn't a bad introductory video.

Communism is a stateless, classless society. States are instruments of class rule - i.e., they protect and defend the interests of one class (aristocrats, slaveholders, capitalists) over another. Would you like me to provide more resources on these ideas?

 

[Madvillain]

glad brehs have seen the light

 

[Madvillain]

@JahFocus CS @Swavy Karl Marx @Melbournelad ya'll have a lot more patience than me. salute

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

See my post above on personal vs. private property. This isn't a bad introductory video.

Communism is a stateless, classless society. States are instruments of class rule - i.e., they protect and defend the interests of one class (aristocrats, slaveholders, capitalists) over another. Would you like me to provide more resources on these ideas?

Your definition of communism asserts that these rigid classes actually are enforced legally.

They're not

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This dude is literally trying to shyt on intellectual property

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Dude really posted this video?



Man get the hell out of here.

talking about I can't own land or machines that enable productivity

What the hell is the point of incentivizing ANY invention or novel idea?