The Reason that "Ali" was a boring ass mess was becuz of Will Smith

[Knights89]

I tried to watch this movie on Sat and couldn't sit through it. Ali was a lively, joyful person. Why did they play him as such a brooding character.

I personally loved the movie. As far as your post, in my opinion I think the joyous, charismatic icon you see on highlight reels and other old footage was there in he film. One of my favorite scenes in the movie is when he walked the streets of Harlem with Malcolm X and the relationship he had with fans was shown, the scenes showing his pre fight interactions with other boxers-Liston, Terrell, Foreman, his interviews with Cossell played by Voight, his court ship of women and how he was a natural around them. However the movie showed racism, the possibilities of him going to jail, going broke, the failings of several marriages, and those things show a different side of the man. A more realized, complete man is shown in my opinion

 

[filial_piety]

It's a very good movie.

And I think this is the film that set Will SMith apart from the action movie schtick and as a respected actor.

 

[Rapmastermind]

Ali's passing has people really changing their views on the film and Will is finally getting true props for the role. People gave him props back then and he was nominated for an Oscar and Golden Globe but I don't think people really gave Will the true credit for how it was to convey such a Legendary figure. It's one of those things that because this is the official bio-pic and Ali has passed away it becomes the definitive movie of his career. "When we were Kings" actually won an Oscar and was an amazing documentary but Documentaries don't travel as far as Bio-pics. Will being an Iconic International Superstar will only help film's legacy. They said Home Video sales for the movie have increased dramatically and television is already lining up showtimes to play it. Will lost to Denzel for the Oscar because they owed Denzel just as Denzel lost Malcolm X to Pacino because they owed him. I still think this was Will's best shot at an Oscar but maybe they will get him back one just as they did for Denzel and Pacino. So though some of us has issues with the film just know now it will be considered a Classic because of Ali's Legendary Life.

 

[Drew Wonder]

Way too much disrespect thrown at both Spike and Mann in this thread. They're both great directors its just that Spike would've been a better fit for this particular film

 

[TransJenner]

fukk will smith

 

[BlackMajik]

In honor of Will's latest failure becuz of his bad decision making skills

*Cough*

 

[BlackMajik]

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2000/mar/09/news.spikelee



Spike Lee Angry Over Ali Snub



Will has stated that he picks movies off of a formula that seeks mainstream success, going with someone that wouldn't make a controversial film with racial elements fit that formula.

If Spike said he would add explosions and aliens and shyt he would've been selected

The irony

 

[BlackMajik]

@StillNotSoft

 

[Still Benefited]

The irony

I personally dont think X is that great of a biopic,so im not that confident Spike wouldve blown it out of the water....Spike had his chance to show Malcolms relationship with Muhhamad Ali,instead he decided to show himself and denzel at the juke spot,and this stupid relationship Malcolm had with this white woman....left out some noteable people in Malcolms life....but bruh this was a dope scene


I had problems with Ali though,ill have to run it back too,X got worst to me over the years more than it bothered me when i first saw it.

I thought Alis wives got too much screentime too

 

[Big Boss]

Columbia bosses are reported to have been relieved by the decision, who worried that in Lee's hands the Ali project would be more racially charged and therefore less marketable. "They felt it would become a narrow, militant movie," admits an unnamed studio source. "They thought Mann could deliver a more mainstream movie."

 

[Big Boss]

25th Hour is one of the best movies of the 2000s breh. (imho)

Oldboy, inside man, 25th hour, bamboozled. But i can tell you're on that

Facts

 

[BlackMajik]

I personally dont think X is that great of a biopic,so im not that confident Spike wouldve blown it out of the water....Spike had his chance to show Malcolms relationship with Muhhamad Ali,instead he decided to show himself and denzel at the juke spot,and this stupid relationship Malcolm had with this white woman....left out some noteable people in Malcolms life....but bruh this was a dope scene


I had problems with Ali though,ill have to run it back too,X got worst to me over the years more than it bothered me when i first saw it.

I thought Alis wives got too much screentime too

Agree to disagree bruh

Buuut u may wanna read this lol

Columbia bosses are reported to have been relieved by the decision, who worried that in Lee's hands the Ali project would be more racially charged and therefore less marketable. "They felt it would become a narrow, militant movie," admits an unnamed studio source. "They thought Mann could deliver a more mainstream movie."

The movie was completely sanitized

 

[N711oir]

Hollywood doesn't promote and actively blocks any collective all "black" films or projects. Unless of course it's some big screen comedy to be laughed at.

love spike films. But recently he's been disconnected from what made him great I'm convinced a lot of them don't actually do the directing anymore just primarily in name only like ghost writing not just him along with some of the other accomplished directors.

Plus you know Hollywood would make sure a fictitious characters story is told better than a real champions




We also may be hiding the fact that will actually not that great of an actor

He's Hollywood's tofu
He's been stripped of all character and soul they love him in the caucus mountains he's not intimidating

He plays the same stale mentally vegetated role in every movie .

He explained in interview before how he picked films would do block buster action flick then do passion project riding the wave of action film. Now without those action films you're left with these uninspiring performances

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

Spike would've worked his magic on an Ali film, there shouldn't have been any other director, and i don't even like Spike like that

 

[Bootzilla]

Movies was to me felt like an indy movie and not in a good way. Will smith though he showed some signs but was so uncharismatic it felt like some little boy pretending to be muhammad ali.
But i think the stories of him c00ning are