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"The Originals" Season 4 (& TVD Season 8) DISCUSSION Thread
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I am not feeling that little white chick they got playing The Originals' mom.
She has no gravitas.
She has no gravitas.
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'The Originals' team seasons Season 2 at Comic-Con: Live-Blog
Julie Plec, Phoebe Tonkin and a slew of Original Vampires hit Ballroom 20
By Daniel Fienberg | Friday, Jul 25, 2014 7:17 PM
First, my confession: I'm a good chunk of episodes behind on the first season of The CW's "The Originals." I fell behind on both of my CW vampire dramas this past season, but I was able to catch up on "The Vampire Diaries" in recent weeks. I'll catch up on "The Originals" before the second season premieres, but I'm not there yet. Hopefully I won't embarrass myself with this live-blog, but if I say anything stupid, you'll know why. Apologies.
That was an intense two hours in Hall H.
I live-blogged the "Walking Dead" panel, which included a premiere date.
And I live-blogged the "Game of Thrones" panel, which included a bunch of casting for Season 5.
Now it's time for an afternoon of CW live-blogs.
Up first, The CW's Hour With Phoebe Tonkin panel, which has been mislabeled as "The Originals" in your Comic-Con program and features a lot of people who aren't Phoebe Tonkin at all.
Then it'll be time for "Arrow."
But follow along for vampire, werewolf, witch and New Orleans updates...
4:19 p.m. They're three episodes into production on Season 2 of "The Originals," so we're going to get a sizzle reel from that.
4:20 p.m. The sizzle reel begins with the bedlam that ensued at the end of last season, set as a counterpoint against fairy tale narration. Yay! It looks like it's going to be a Phoebe Tonkin-heavy start to the season. She's getting savage as she tries to protect her baby. There are gangsters and some guy named Caleb and street brawls and lots of biting and Marcel tearing somebody's arm off. "I am Mikael, the vampire who hunts vampires," says Sebastian Roche's character. I wonder if that's on his business card. Chatter about a white oak stake. And a 1000-year-old witch crafting moonlight rings. She seems to know Klaus. And Elijah facing off against their father and talk about their mother, too. "Which of our parents do we kill first?" Klaus asks.
4:24 p.m. Our panel: EP Michael Narducci, Leah Pipes, Daniel Gillies, Phoebe Tonkin, Joseph Morgan, who outdraws Gillies in the shrieking, Charles Michael Davis, Danielle Campbell and Julie Plec.
4:26 p.m. "I think we talked a lot about the sins of the past coming to haunt us in the present," Narducci says of the season's theme, including the return of departed family. Narducci says the season will have a "dark, warped fairy tale component." "This is the season where our heroes are dealing with the return of their monstrous parents and what that means to them," Narducci says.
4:27 p.m. The season premiere is titled "Rebirth." Plec says that everything has a New Orleans context and this title refers to the brass band, but it's also about people experiencing grief and how they begin again.
4:28 p.m. "He's locked himself away in the compound. He's like a caged animal waiting to make his move," Morgan says of Klaus, noting that Klaus has been doing a lot of painting, which helps him control his emotions. But he's failing. He wants "violent, bloody, merciless revenge." "That, in fact, is what has excited me most," Morgan smirks.
4:30 p.m. "I hope the characters can get back to a point where they're working together a team," says Charles Michael Davis of Marcel's ties with Klaus, but it's an unease alliance.
4:30 p.m. Phoebe! Woo. The baby bump is gone. "I was kinda wanting to burn that baby bump by the end. It got very big and uncomfortable," Tonkin says of the baby bump that she wore for nine months. "I've got nowhere to hid my phone, my glasses," she says of losing the bump, which could also hide a book. As a hybrid now, Phoebe gets to be vicious. Hayley will be looking to Klaus as a mentor, saying that Klaus is teaching Hayley about different ins-and-outs of being a vampire.
4:32 p.m. Plec says that when we met Hayley on "Vampire Diaries," she just wanted answers about her family and she got those answers, but after all of that, she lost all of it. "What do you do? You're a mother without your child, you're a Mikaelson and you can't really accept where you fit with that family, you're a prideful hybrid," Plec says of Hayley's arc this season.
4:33 p.m. Last season we liked the Hayley/Elijah bond, but have we moved beyond the idea of a love triangle? "I think that Elijah would observe a degree of distance to give Hayley her dignity," Gillies says. He wants to see what emerges and blossoms. He loves working with Tonkin. As you would.
4:35 p.m. Leah Pipes time. Cami spent a lot of time learning and forgetting last season, but she's on vervain this season and she wants to leave, but she keeps being drawn back. "She's really attracted to great bone structure, unfortunately," Pipes laments. "I really want to see her be the person she always has been," Pipes says confusingly. "I'm excited to see her be more comfortable in her environment, or just aware of her environment," Pipes says. Leah Pipes also makes a YouPorn reference, which is a bit awesome.
4:37 p.m. What excites Danielle Campbell about Davina? "She's not really taking it from everyone now. She's dishing it out now," Campbell says. "She's lost way too many people that she cares about... her biggest strength is the people she cares about and loves and at the same time, that's her biggest weakness," Campbell says.
4:38 p.m. Klaus will be dealing with lots of daddy issues this season. Gillies says it's about the definition of family and what that means to Klaus and Elijah, rather than just a blind quest for family.
4:40 p.m. Bringing Mikael and Esther back "explodes" the show, Plec says. Knocking down The Other Side on "Vampire Diaries" let them do this. Narducci says that being a vampire and treating humans as food strips away your connection to humanity. The Originals are bound together by familial love, but now their mother is about to tear everything apart. "This person is coming back to judge them as abominations," Narducci teases. "The people that should love you the most, your mom and your dad, want to destroy you," he says, which is especially bad when you're already a bit nutty, as Klaus is.
4:43 p.m. Rebecca/Claire **** will be back at least once in the first three episodes. Plec says that the writers are dying to see Hayley and Klaus hold their child again, but they're still working to build to that moment.
4:44 p.m. The crowd likes Daniel Sharman, who plays Caleb. And talking about him makes Campbell giggle. She says that Davina is smitten with Caleb, but also has trouble trusting people, as you do.
4:45 p.m. "There's definitely some romance I think carried over from Season 1," Davis says. "The doors also open for any additional shipping and romance," Davis says, but mostly Marcel is going to be working on rebuilding his vampire community with Josh. Plec says that she originally wanted to kill Josh, but that the writers refused to let her kill Josh. Killing the people fans love is something Plec learned from Kevin Williamson. "He's Josh. You can't quite give that guy the boot," Plec says. Narducci says that there's a chance of love for Josh this season.
4:48 p.m. When is it approach to "Vampire Diaries"/"Originals" crossovers? There are two sides: reative and logistic. Plec says that the story has to require being told in the world of "The Originals" and that they have a story on the table that could work. But actually getting actors from one show to another is a logistical challenge. So it's unclear if that will happen.
4:49 p.m. Joseph Morgan has a story about a prank war in which Daniel Gillies dented his car. The total damage? $600.
4:51 p.m. Fan Questions! But first? We're singing "Happy Birthday" to Paul Wesley. I can't tell if he's actually in the room right now and... He is! He runs on the stage in a t-shirt with a backwards hat and announces, "Daniel Gillies, I love you!" and Paul Wesley leaves.
4:52 p.m. The first question is about choosing music and whatnot. They have a team of editors who are dialed into their musical voice.
4:54 p.m. A mention of the show's Emmy nomination. Plec points out that it was a flashback episode and that the episode also featured one character with 10 hair styles in a minute, so Plec figures it was well-earned.
4:55 p.m. Will Klaus be able to be redeemed after Season 2? "I like to hope there's a chance of redemption for him. I like the idea that the series ultimately could be that journey for him," Morgan says. "I don't know, but I would like to hope," he adds. "Their standards of morality are far different," Gillies says of the way The Originals function. "I don't really think of these guys in terms of good and evil. I do think they admire humanity," Gillies says, or at least aspects of humanity.
4:57 p.m. A questioner wants to know their favorite moments from Season 1. Pipes' favorite moment was Cami saying good-bye to her uncle for the last time. Gillies liked watching Klaus' farewell to his child. Tonkin loves the flashbacks and says she's jealous of the styles and makeup they get to go through. "I can't pick one!" Morgan says. He chooses two, but I miss them because people were parading into my row at the back of Ballroom 20. Oh well. Davis liked Episode 11 in the aftermath of Davina's death. Davis also likes a scene in which Morgan cries a single tear. "I was like, 'Denzel!'" Davis says to a pleased Morgan. Campbell liked the moment before Davina died. Plec liked a line between Rebecca and Klaus, a line that Narducci wrote. And Narducci liked a different Rebecca scene that Plec wrote. We cheer for Claire ****.
5:04 p.m. The next questioner is rooting for Hayley and Elijah. How will Hope impact the supernatural world in "Vampire Diaries" and Mystic Falls? Plec says that for now, Hope is just a baby and if Rebecca does her job, she'll never experience her powers. But Plec doesn't figure Rebecca will do her job perfectly. So figuring out Hope's powers and her place in the supernatural world will be a part of the season.
5:06 p.m. What inspiration did Phoebe draw on? She says that we pick up a few months after the finale and when we find her, she's a bit lost and she's on a kamikaze mission. Tonkin has been enjoying learning the technical part of getting to play a vampire. She recalls her first time having to bit a character on the neck and she thought she knew how to do it, but she didn't and she did "a sound effect" the first time she did it.
5:08 p.m. "We have more selection of entrees," Morgan says of why the "Originals" set is better than the "Vampire Diaries" set -- Better catering.
5:09 p.m. A questioner wants to know what's coming with Klaus and Caroline from "Vampire Diaries." "Sweetheart, your guess is as good as mine," Morgan says. "In order for Caroline to enter the New Orleans universe and engages with Klaus on any level, it's gotta be a fit, an organic fit. And that could take some time," Plec teases. "We have to wait for an organic opportunity to bring these two together," she says, but admits that they have "unfinished business."
5:10 p.m. And "H20" question! What drew her to this world after doing that mermaid show? Tonkin talks about being introduced to the world on "Secret Circle" and then she got the opportunity to go over to "Vampire Diaries." She's impressed with how her character has evolved over the "Vampire Diaries" time and onto "The Originals." "Thank you for watching 'H20,'" she tells the questioner. "No one believes I played a really innocent mermaid girl just nine years ago," Tonkin laughs.
5:12 p.m. "I believe that Hope was his hope. She was hope for him to be a better man-hybrid-creature. She was hope for his redemption," Morgan says.
5:13 p.m. I'm impressed that Morgan knows the differences between Klaus in the books, which have pretty much nothing to do with this world, and on TV. Klaus killed Vicky in the books? Apparently that's where Morgan got Klaus calling people "sweetheart" and "using terms of affection in really creepy ways."
That's all, folks...
http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-print/the-originals-team-seasons-season-2-at-comic-con-live-blog
'Vampire Diaries' team talks life, death and Season 6 at Comic-Con: Live-Blog
Nina Dobrev, Ian Somerhalder and Paul Wesley field Ballroom 20 questions
By Daniel Fienberg @HitFixDaniel | Saturday, Jul 26, 2014 7:02 PM
When last we left "The Vampire Diaries," Bonnie and Damon were holding hands and stepping into The Light.
Oh no, right?
Well, Ian Somerhalder and Kat Graham are still on the Saturday, July 26 San Diego Comic-Con panel for "The Vampire Diaries," so we somehow suspect they'll be back.
Click though and follow along with my live-blog as Julie Plec teases us with hints about the new status quo in Mystic Falls and how long it will last. And we'll get a sense of how fans felt about last year's overdose of dopplegangers and Travelers.
3:50 p.m. The last panel was for NBC's "Grimm" and while it filled the room, there was ZERO crowd interest. "Grimm" is a show that probably could have been in 6A or 6BCF without any problems. It's a Friday success for NBC, but that doesn't mean it's a good Comic-Con show. Apparently.
4:08 p.m. We're a bit late, but... "Vampire Diaries" time!
4:09 p.m. We're starting with a video that the show's publicist promises we'll love. And why would he lie? It begins where we left off with Bonnie and Damon facing The Light. Not gonna lie, that hand-holding moment was kinda sweet, all things considered. Then the clip goes into a joke reel. "Did we just get written off?" Graham wonders. "I've been killed off a TV show before. This isn't how they do it," Somerhalder says. Graham asks Ian if he was a jerk on set this season. Ian says he was well behaved and that Paul loves him. "Does this mean I get more money?" Paul says in a cut-away. Candice Accola tells a story about Kat stealing her favorite turkey club. She's very cutely bitter about it. "It's as if they don't have room for us anymore. How can that be?" Ian wonders. Cut away to Matt Davis and The Guy Who Plays Enzo. And Nina Dobrev is already knocking down the walls to Kat's dressing room, with her Teen Choice Awards in the background. "I've died like a thousand times on this show and I've come back every time. I guess Kat and Ian weren't so lucky," Steve McQueen says. Finally Kat and Ian decide that they were written off because everybody loves them so much and they're getting a spinoff. They call... JOSEPH MORGAN to tell him. He's displeased. "I will kill you and everyone you've ever met," Morgan tells them. "There's only one thing that can save us now... The Fans," Ian says. "We need you to make some noise."
4:15 p.m. The first actors on the stage are Ian Somerhalder and Kat Graham. We're very pleased. I'm glad the room was able to wake up after "Grimm."
4:16 p.m. Out come Nina Dobrev, Paul Wesley and Julie Plec. I've seen pictures of Matt Davis around Comic-Con today, so I'm assuming a special guess is coming.
4:17 p.m. What will Julie Plec say Mystic Falls is in for? "Anybody who's ever died before no longer has the opportunity to come back and visit us," Plec says. "Fortunately, we were able to bring a couple of them back," she teases.
4:18 p.m. So what will Kat and Ian be up to? "I definitely think Bamon's better than Donnie," says Somerhalder of their shipper name. Kat promises a new dynamic.
4:19 p.m. It will be a four month time jump when we return. Everybody is dealing in different ways.
4:19 p.m. "He's still in my hotel room I think," Somerhalder says of the absent Matt Davis. No. He's actually in the crowd with a microphone. "How much did you miss me?" Davis asks Somerhalder. "Wait a minute? Is that Matt Davis?" Ian asks. This is strange, because Davis isn't actually on the screen. And finally Matt Davis just comes out. I wonder if that was supposed to be orchestrated better.
4:20 p.m. What can Davis say about Alaric and how he's doing? We find Alaric working outside of Mystic Falls having conned his way into a university teaching gig. "If anybody deserves a little naughtiness, it's probably Professor Saltzman," Plec says of loving for Alaric.
4:22 p.m. They all love the fans. "I'd be so bold to say that there's been a massive evolution in these characters," says Somerhalder, crediting Plec and Kevin Williamson for helping change Damon from the baddie he once was into the guy he is now. Kat says that she was just "a little girl" when Julie and Kevin discovered her and that Bonnie has helped her grow up and "showed me what a strong woman looks like and Julie Plec showed me what a strong woman looks like." Wesley remembers asking to get Stefan more flaws, which led to the creation of The Ripper, which he calls his favorite storyline. "He's taken quite the turn in many different ways, so I'm very grateful for that," Wesley says. "I feel like she's gone through such an evolution. That's what's so beautiful about television," Dobrev says. "Elena has so much depth, so much love, so many crazy things happen to her. So many dopplegangers. She's really gone from girl-next-door to a strong woman who doesn't take anything," Dobrev says.
4:27 p.m. Will Elena be having grief/rebound sex when we return? "If she did that, I feel like that'd mean that her experience and her love for Damon wasn't reel," Dobrev says, but she hints that Elena has a strange way of dealing with grief.
4:28 p.m. Would Elena call a Girl Code violation if Caroline-Stefan happens? "How could she? That'd be so hypocritical," Dobrev says.
4:28 p.m. The call for questions leads to an AVALANCHE as the audience pours up to the mic. Wow. That was crazy.
4:30 p.m. Somerhalder says Damon isn't noble, but he's fiercely loyal to loved ones. "It's interesting and beautiful to see him have this other side," Somerhalder says. He's wearing Damon's ring and the prop master was OK with him taking it as long as he cleans it after the weekend. Ummm... Ew.
4:30 p.m. What skills of theirs have been integrated into their characters? Wesley says he got one motorcycle scene, but Plec didn't like it. Nina got to speak Bulgarian. Nina also wants to do a backflip in an upcoming episode. She goads the crowd to get Plec to let her. "Julie finally let me use my setting-things-on-fire talent," Kat jokes. "I don't really have any other hidden talent. I mean, I can write in perfect cursive with my toes," Somerhalder says, suggesting he could write Elena a letter from the other side with his toes.
4:33 p.m. Do the stars have any say in the music on the show? Plec says "kinda," that the editors add the music, but that the actors have been encouraged to suggest songs from musicians and bands that they love. "Ian has sent me songs over the years," Plec says, claiming that Somerhalder sends her iTunes downloads.
4:34 p.m. A questioner calls Ian "so gorgeous" and asks what would still surprise his fans? Ian apologies for being corny. "That any profound love that they think they have for me, my is exponentially greater. I love you guys more than you can possibly imagine," Ian says. AWWWWWWWW. "That and the toe thing," Plec adds.
4:35 p.m. "Breath, smile, repeat." Ian tells a fan who wants to know if Elena or Stefan will ever get back together. "It's already in the cards," Wesley says, before admitting he knows nothing. "Right now the love between Damon and Elena is so strong and the friendship between Stefan and Elena has grown strong," Plec says, claiming that Elena's grief or whatever will be taking space on the show. Are the actors jealous of each other? "I'm only jealous of Nina," Paul says. "Paul. We agreed we weren't going to declare our love for each other in public. You idiot," Ian says. "Paul and I share everything," Ian adds. Hmmm...
4:37 p.m. "This question is for Ian and his beautiful eyes..." says a questioner. She wants to know if Ian will ever open one of his foundations in Texas. He encourages her to start it and he'll help her.
4:38 p.m. Will we be seeing any "Originals" characters coming to Mystic Falls? "Yes, we're always taking about different paths we can take to bring different characters from one show to another," Plec says, but repeats that it's a logical nightmare. "We're talking about stories right now even as we speak," she teases.
4:39 p.m. Could a Jeremy-Bonnie relationship still exist? "He's pretty forgiving, right?" Kat says of Jeremy and her abrupt phone call to him at the end of last season. Ian suggests that Bonnie is stuck on the other side with "the horniest guy on television." Plec says that everybody is telling Jeremy to move on, but he thinks they don't know what he went through. And since Alaric and Elena can't enter Mystic Falls, this makes it hard for them to console him.
4:41 p.m. How is Alaric going to feel about Enzo? "He'll be very jealous," Davis speculates. Plec says that Enzo has the ability to charm people, but he also has the ability to piss people off. Plec suggests that Alaric might fall in the latter column.
4:42 p.m. What is their favorite Southern food? "I've gotta have my grits," Ian says. Nina likes fried chicken. Davis likes pimento cheese. Kat likes mac and cheese and "anything deep-fried." "What people don't realize is that you can't have that every day. You will die. Fat," Somerhalder says of his enjoyment for fried food. Somerhalder says the writers said, "We're gonna keep you guys naked just enough so that you eat just a couple leaves of lettuce a day. Enjoy that steam-room, buddy."
4:44 p.m. If they had to choose, would they be Team Stefan or Team Damon? "Does no one realize that this woman should not be with either of these guys?" Ian says, listing the awful things that have happened to Elena because of these guys. "I think she should end up with Matt," Wesley says. "She dated him already. He wasn't that good in bed," Dobrev cracks. Ouch! They all agree that they're Team Elena.
4:46 p.m. What is Elena's freshman GPA? "1.7," Wesley suggests. They agree that she'd actually compel herself better grades.
4:46 p.m. "Oh, you cried in line!" Paul says, recognizing a questioner who starts crying again. How did Somerhalder and Graham react to seeing they were being killed off? "First thing I thought was, 'Vacation,'" Ian says, but he jokes that if he had to go, he might as well go with a beautiful woman. Then he more seriously says that this will help the show by forcing different characters to interact. "It's exciting for us. Change is good," Somerhalder says. "I really like that when she went out, it was her choice," Graham says, noting that it was a choice of the character and she was empowered by the choice.
4:48 p.m. Julie Plec is asked to give her actors/characters hashtags: Paul Wesley gets #HeroHair, Nina gets #TripleGanger, Davis gets #Bourbon, Somerhalder is #BourbonBuddy and Graham is #Fierce. Now you know.
That's all, folks...
http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-prin...ife-death-and-season-6-at-comic-con-live-blog
From Entertainment Weekly at Comic-Con:
The Originals: Marcel and Klaus related scoop on season 2 from TVGuide's Natalie Abrams
Here's some scoop on The Originals from TVGuide's Natalie Abrams' Mega Buzz column, which was posted on 7/29/14.
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Once-Sons-Greys-Spoilers-1085057.aspx
I guess we won't be seeing much of Rebekah this season.
Claire **** is turning in her immortality for a badge.
The Originals star has joined the cast of NBC's new drama Aquarius as a series regular, E! News has learned.
Set in the ‘60s, Aquarius stars David Duchovny as an undercover cop tracking down infamous killer Charles Manson and his followers. Also set to star in the 13-episode series are Gaius Charles, Gethin Anthonyand Grey Damon. **** will play Office Chairmain Tully, a beautiful young female police officer who is trying to be taken seriously in the male-dominated world of the LAPD in 1967, no easy task.
http://www.eonline.com/news/564340/...regular-what-does-this-mean-for-the-originals
I guess we won't be seeing much of Rebekah this season.
Claire **** is turning in her immortality for a badge.
The Originals star has joined the cast of NBC's new drama Aquarius as a series regular, E! News has learned.
Set in the ‘60s, Aquarius stars David Duchovny as an undercover cop tracking down infamous killer Charles Manson and his followers. Also set to star in the 13-episode series areGaius Charles, Gethin Anthonyand Grey Damon. **** will play Office Chairmain Tully, a beautiful young female police officer who is trying to be taken seriously in the male-dominated world of the LAPD in 1967, no easy task.
http://www.eonline.com/news/564340/...regular-what-does-this-mean-for-the-originals
The Producers totally fukked up.
Luckily that show has flop written all over it.
Nina.
Yo my dude, there's some funny ass real life gossip ship that's going on with that right now between Ian and Nina fukking other people and trying to get back at each other in the press
Yeah dog, I be seeing that on Just Jared & other celebrity news sites/YouTube channels.
daemonova
hit it, & I didn't go Erykah Badu crazy, #yallmad
was never feeling rebekah as much as y'all were so she can go 
and as far as the Hayley not being serious enough to be a mother, looks like the baby gonna be in them bushes for a minute, we shouldn't have to worry about that for a while
and as far as the Hayley not being serious enough to be a mother, looks like the baby gonna be in them bushes for a minute, we shouldn't have to worry about that for a while
prophecypro
Hollywood North
This heaux doing the most to get back at Ian Creephadler
fukk outta here with Ian talking about Marriage.