The Official Socialism/Democratic Socialism/Communism/Marxism Thread

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Swavy Karl Marx said:
I suspect a lot of soviet nostalgia is wrapped in nationalism(wrote a paper partly on this subject incidentally), but Soviet life wasn't all that bad post WW2. Especially in Russia proper.
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uh yeh it was- russia in the 50's and 60's was noplace you wanted to be and it absolutely wasnt the place to be in the 30's and by the 70's the country was already in decline


the only place worse was china in the 50's and 60's

you been told wrong bruh

the problem with socialism isnt socialism - the problem with socialism is people

and people are greedy
 
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shonuff said:
uh yeh it was- russia in the 50's and 60's was noplace you wanted to be and it absolutely wasnt the place to be in the 30's and by the 70's the country was already in decline


the only place worse was china in the 50's and 60's

you been told wrong bruh

the problem with socialism isnt socialism - the problem with socialism is people

and people are greedy
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USSR wasn't a bad place to be post Stalin, in the grand scheme atleast.
 
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Yeltsin, then 58, “roamed the aisles of Randall’s nodding his head in amazement,” wrote Asin. He told his fellow Russians in his entourage that if their people, who often must wait in line for most goods, saw the conditions of U.S. supermarkets, “there would be a revolution.”

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Yeltsin asked customers about what they were buying and how much it cost, later asking the store manager if one needed a special education to manage a store. In the Chronicle photos, you can see him marveling at the produce section, the fresh fish market, and the checkout counter. He looked especially excited about frozen pudding pops.

“Even the Politburo doesn’t have this choice. Not even Mr. Gorbachev,” he said.

The fact that stores like these were on nearly every street corner in America amazed him. They even offered free cheese samples. According to Asin, Yeltsin didn’t leave empty-handed, as he was given a small bag of goodies to enjoy on his trip.

About a year after the Russian leader left office, a Yeltsin biographer later wrote that on the plane ride to Yeltsin’s next destination, Miami, he was despondent. He couldn’t stop thinking about the plentiful food at the grocery store and what his countrymen had to subsist on in Russia.

In Yeltsin’s own autobiography, he wrote about the experience at Randall’s, which shattered his view of communism, according to pundits. Two years later, he left the Communist Party and began making reforms to turn the economic tide in Russia. You can blame those frozen Jell-O Pudding pops.

“When I saw those shelves crammed with hundreds, thousands of cans, cartons and goods of every possible sort, for the first time I felt quite frankly sick with despair for the Soviet people,” Yeltsin wrote. “That such a potentially super-rich country as ours has been brought to a state of such poverty! It is terrible to think of it.”
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When Boris Yeltsin went grocery shopping in Clear Lake
 
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Socialism now borders near communism. It is a very slippery slope. Good luck when you don't have more of everyone elses money to spend.
 
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Love getting lectured on soviet history from people who have never read a primary source

In the grand scheme guys, I'm not saying the USSR had a higher standard of living than the us. People weren't falling out in the street tho. Soviet nostalgia has a lot to do with nationalism but there's a real material basis for this phenomena
 
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Swavy Karl Marx said:
Love getting lectured on soviet history from people who have never read a primary source

In the grand scheme guys, I'm not saying the USSR had a higher standard of living than the us. People weren't falling out in the street tho. Soviet nostalgia has a lot to do with nationalism but there's a real material basis for this phenomena
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You don't even know the fukking cyrillic alphabet. :rudy:

Get THE fukk outta here bro talking about "primary sources" :camby:

I GUARANTEE you, I know more about the Cold War than you will ever wish you did so don't pretend to be an expert on this bullshyt. Stick to your little bullshyt undergrad schedule before your card gets pulled any further.

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