Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - We are SO back, the Premier League returns!
About what specifically ?
Some links :
- http://adinosmanbasic.wordpress.com/
- http://www.zonalmarking.net/
- http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis?cc=5739
I read french blogs also but y'all wouldn't understand.
Good vids on this channel :
http://www.youtube.com/user/LesChroniquesTactiqu
Arrogance.
King Novak of Melbourne, the First of His Name
There's always google translate
I should have been more specific. Reading about zone 14 and how you can divide a pitch into zones piqued my interest. I've figured out formations for the most part, zonal marking was very helpful with that. I understand Wenger/Pep's offensive approach from watching it closely the last couple of years. I'm less understanding of things like the best place on the pitch to cross balls in from, the proper way to play direct football, defensive theory. The absolute best way of course is to watch tape over and over to understand movements on the pitch, but I know there's got to be articles out there that explain things as well.
I remember seeing a video about the difference in pitch dimensions and how that can affect offensive and defensive play based on space available to the players. Think it was a Tim Vickery piece posted in this thread. Stuff like that seems simple but the science behind it always makes me go
rodgers really dropped lucas over gerrard 
The best one in french for me but it's very literary so don't know if Google Translate could properly help you understand the nuances : http://cahiersdufootball.net/blogs/les-de-managers/There's always google translate
You also have dude's blog whom I linked the YT channel : http://www.chroniquestactiques.fr/
Well the dude Adin Osmanbasic (the blog I linked in the previous post) really goes in depth about zones. That's where I first read "half-space". Images in spoilerI should have been more specific. Reading about zone 14 and how you can divide a pitch into zones piqued my interest. I've figured out formations for the most part, zonal marking was very helpful with that. I understand Wenger/Pep's offensive approach from watching it closely the last couple of years. I'm less understanding of things like the best place on the pitch to cross balls in from, the proper way to play direct football, defensive theory. The absolute best way of course is to watch tape over and over to understand movements on the pitch, but I know there's got to be articles out there that explain things as well.
I remember seeing a video about the difference in pitch dimensions and how that can affect offensive and defensive play based on space available to the players. Think it was a Tim Vickery piece posted in this thread. Stuff like that seems simple but the science behind it always makes me go
About the main tactics, I guess it's best to read analysis about :
- Dortmund and the gegenpressing (counter-pressing) and how Klopp mastered the art of transitioning between defensive phases and attacking ones
- Heynckes's Bayern and how his 4/2/3/1 was flawless.
- Pep's Bayern and his 4/1/4/1
- Juventus and the Regista role (Pirlo's position) and why their 3/5/2 dominate the Serie A
- Roma and Barça and the false 9 role in their 4/3/3
- False 6 (@penfield
) in 4/3/3 shapes and how more and more teams (Barça with Busquets, Real with Modric, PSG with Motta, Roma with De Rossi etc) use the defensive midfielders as a third central defender in attacking phases to let both full backs go up- Simeone's Atletico and their defensive coherence in his 4/4/2
- Pellegrini's City and its 4/2/2/2
You could also read about marking teams of the game and how they played
- 2009/2011 Barça (possession football and Pep's 5s pressing rule)
- 2013 Bayern (their 4/2/3/1 in attacks transforming into 4/4/2 while defending and their "half-court press")
- 2013 Dortmund (same for Bayern but different way of pressing)
- '12 Athletic Bilbao (Bielsa's relentless attacking and movement) and '10 Chile with Bielsa's 3/4/3
- '07 Milan and Ancellotti's Christmas tree formation
- Mourinho's Real (the 100 goals one) and his counter-attack system
- 06 Roma and Spaletti's 4/6/0
- '70s Ajax (Michels' one), '74 Netherlands and '74 Barça (Cruyff's impact)
- '90s Milan (Sacchi's 4/4/2)
- '70 Brazil (the set up to Carlos Alberto's famous goal is really defining of their style)
- '86 Dynamo Kiev and their total football
- '82 Brazil, supposedly the most beautiful Brazil side
- Hungaria's Golden Team (first false 9 apparition) in the 50s
- And so on...
That will just give you and overview of the game and how it evolved. First time I posted in OFT I talked out my ass and @Kunty McPhuck checked me, so I went back learning and watched the game more carefully trying to understand it in a tactical sense and not in an entertaining one. It's better to know history to better understand how things works now.
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As if this Liverpool farce isn't enough, I get the news that Komla Dumor died yesterday. WTF???
He was only 41. Before he jumped to the BBC I remember listening to him every morning on Joy FM on my way to school. Such a tragedy.
He was only 41. Before he jumped to the BBC I remember listening to him every morning on Joy FM on my way to school. Such a tragedy.
as if Liu Kang wasn't one of the most liked posters, his essays
Dive from Suarez
Granting the penalty was just the ref's way of rewarding Gerrard for his first decent through ball of the season.
Suarez diving as usual 
Roaden Polynice
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Generally, when one is talking about a matter he's no expert in, chances are he says shyt he read elsewhere. The bright way of doing this is just to take it and make your own opinion off it through your own observations. There is no shame doing that.
Lately I found myself watching football only to understand tactics. Don't really care about the game but the shapes, the movement, the player's positions and interactions. And well, it's incredibly interesting. Real-life chess honestly. Saw a bit of Barça / Getafe and was irked that Barça was kinda sloppy and couldn't force Getafe's lock (they are really less impressive at that since the Pep days by the way). Then, out of nowhere you have that fake by Messi opening up the right side of Getafe by provoking a 2 vs 1, for Tello to assist him brilliantly. Wasby that movement and really enjoyed that. Above all because I was getting bored
Thing is I've only come to this way of watching football only after reading heavily some tactics blogs because they provide good insight on how things works on the pitch and that's refreshing. Found out about "Zone 14" and "Half-spaces" a month ago and now when I find the time to play me some FIFA I always try to hit them. Will try to implement that in my team soon. I have a new found appreciation for coaching
Isn't it like how online debates are mostly ? Not many people enter a debate on the innanetz letting the door open to be convinced. The Coli is no exception. I'm on the internet since like 1999 and been on message boards for a little less than that and it's always been this way. From video game message boards, to polics one, to music one, passing by news websites.
But I don't debate on The Coli mostly because it's often American matters and because (I don't if it's the American way but) most problems are somehow linked to "races". And I hate that point of view. I'm really boggled by how things appears to be (I don't know for sure, maybe the Coli deforms reality) black and white in your country. Kind of scary honestly.
Yeah I'm often troubled by basic commentary and I (figuratively) pray for non-commented games. I swear I'd pay to watch games only with the sound of the crowd and the players. But commentary is basic because networks aim at the largest audience possible maybe. I don't know how it is in the US but mostly, when watching sport on TV in France, most announcers team are composed by "an expert" and "an enthusiastic announcer" (which know little to none about the sports he's commenting). The former is here to give some tactical key points, the latter is here to rejoice at every type of shyt.
But yeah, they don't really go in depth but it's also because it's the role of debriefing shows with analysis, stats and charts.
I wonder, can @Grams become the first announcer mixing spot-on analysis and great commenting at the SAME DAMN TIME ?!
Really good post.
Re opinions: I've been thinking a lot about opinions lately. I spend a lot of time I confess reading comments after news articles. Like, I can spend hours sometimes reading articles on The Guardian or whatever and reading all the comments about the article. I just always wonder if a lot of opinions are rehashed from other opinions that they have read somewhere or heard then there's a snowballing effect. Like you said, yeah I suppose there's nothing wrong with taking an opinion, sprinkling your own personal view (based on other opinions?) then that's your opinion, but it seems awfully inauthentic to me.
Re race: Yeah, the coli tends to exaggerate things and tends to inject race into a lot of things. It's not really the American way I'd say. Things are much more subtle in real life when it comes to race, and the internet just allows people to vent accordingly.
Re announcers: Just be glad you don't have to spend an afternoon with Joe Buck and Troy Aikman
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Grams
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You and @Grams, you brehs ain't up on the app Tinder though?
I may have just thrown you life jackets btw, you owe me
Seeeeee the problem is I'm ugly soooo :lallana:I am i rarely get likes and when i do they broads dont answer. and im not ugly... im actually very good looking
thatrapsfan
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RIP, really enjoyed his broadcast style.
Roaden Polynice
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Just get your best pictures on there, make sure your bio is on point/funny and go from there
You'll be having tindercourse in no time
