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151. Vincent Taylor, DT, Oklahoma State (60)
152. Isaiah McKenzie, WR, Georgia (60)
153. Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State (60)
154. Aviante Collins, OT, TCU (60)
155. Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (59)
156. C.J. Beathard, QB, Iowa (59)
157. Josh Carraway, OLB, TCU (59)
158. T J Logan, RB, North Carolina (59)
159. Jehu Chesson, WR, Michigan (59)
160. Adam Bisnowaty, G, Pittsburgh (59)
161. Rayshawn Jenkins, S, Miami (Fla.) (59)
162. D.J. Jones, DT, Mississippi (59)
163. Chad Hansen, WR, California (58)
164. Jessamen Dunker, OT, Tennessee State (58)
165. Marquez White, CB, Florida State (58)
166. Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson (58)
167. Jeremiah Ledbetter, DE, Arkansas (58)
168. David Sharpe, G, Florida (58)
169. Jon Toth, C, Kentucky (58)
170. Jeremy Sprinkle, TE, Arkansas (58)
171. Jadar Johnson, S, Clemson (57)
172. Carroll Phillips, OLB, Illinois (57)
173. Michael Roberts, TE, Toledo (57)
174. Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame (56)
175. Damien Mama, G, USC (56)
176. Deatrich Wise Jr., DE, Arkansas (56)
177. Josh Harvey-Clemons, S, Louisville (56)
178. Robert Davis, WR, Georgia State (56)
179. Brian Allen, CB, Utah (55)
180. Sean Harlow, C, Oregon State (55)
181. Isaac Rochell, DE, Notre Dame (55)
182. Amba Etta-Tawo, WR, Syracuse (55)
183. Bug Howard, WR, North Carolina (54)
184. Joe Williams, RB, Utah (54)
185. Devonte Fields, DE, Louisville (54)
186. Fred Ross, WR, Mississippi State (53)
187. Eric Saubert, TE, Drake (53)
188. Dede Westbrook, WR, Oklahoma (52)
189. Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming (52)
190. Ben Braden, G, Michigan (51)
191. Conor McDermott, OT, UCLA (51)
192. Nathan Gerry, S, Nebraska (51)
193. Jalen Reeves-Maybin, OLB, Tennessee (51)
194. Deangelo Yancey, WR, Purdue (51)
195. Chase Roullier, C, Wyoming (51)
196. Elijah Mcguire, RB, Louisiana-Lafayette (50)
197. Ejuan Price, OLB, Pittsburgh (50)
198. Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor (50)
199. Ifeadi Odenigbo, DE, Northwestern (50)
200. Nazair Jones, DT, North Carolina (50)







201-250
201. Kenny Golladay, WR, Northern Illinois (50)
202. Scott Orndoff, TE, Pittsburgh (50)
203. Delano Hill, S, Michigan (49)
204. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (49)
205. Jordan Morgan, G, Kutztown (49)
206. Travin Dural, WR, LSU (49)
207. Corey Clement, RB, Wisconsin (49)
208. Ashton Lampkin, CB, Oklahoma State (49)
209. Praise Martin-Oguike, DE, Temple (49)
210. Chad Wheeler, OT, USC (49)
211. Speedy Noil, WR, Texas A&M (49)
212. Damarius Travis, S, Minnesota (48)
213. Chad Williams, WR, Grambling (48)
214. Danny Isidora, G, Miami (Fla.) (48)
215. Zach Pascal, WR, Old Dominion (48)
216. Sam Tevi, OT, Utah (48)
217. Tashawn Bower, OLB, LSU (48)
218. Isaiah Ford, WR, Virginia Tech (47)
219. Bryan Cox, OLB, Florida (47)
220. Ken Ekanem, DE, Virginia Tech (47)
221. Michael Rector, WR, Stanford (47)
222. Dare Ogunbowale, RB, Wisconsin (46)
223. Garrett Sickels, DE, Penn State (46)
224. Treyvon Hester, DT, Toledo (46)
225. Marcus Eligwe, ILB, Georgia Southern (46)
226. Noah Brown, WR, Ohio State (46)
227. Marcus Oliver, ILB, Indiana (45)
228. Stacy Coley, WR, Miami (Fla.) (45)
229. Matt Milano, OLB, Boston College (45)
230. Al-Quadin Muhammad, DE, Miami (Fla.) (45)
231. De'Veon Smith, RB, Michigan (45)
232. Billy Brown, TE, Shepherd (44)
233. Keith Kelsey, ILB, Louisville (44)
234. De'Angelo Henderson, RB, Coastal Carolina (44)
235. Corey Levin, G, Tennessee-Chattanooga (44)
236. Justin Senior, OT, Mississippi State (44)
237. Jerome Lane, WR, Akron (44)
238. A.J. Jefferson, DE, Mississippi State (44)
239. James Quick, WR, Louisville (44)
240. Krishawn Hogan, WR, Marian College (43)
241. Avery Moss, DE, Youngstown (43)
242. DeAngelo Brown, DT, Louisville (43)
243. Mike Tyson, S, Cincinnati (43)
244. Collin Buchanan, OT, Miami (Ohio) (43)
245. Treston Decoud, CB, Oregon State (43)
246. Tarik Cohen, RB, North Carolina A&T (43)
247. Damore'ea Stringfellow, WR, Mississippi (43)
248. Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M (42)
249. Jalen Myrick, CB, Minnesota (42)
250. Hardy Nickerson, ILB, Illinois (42)
 

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251. Jamari Staples, WR, Louisville (42)
252. Shalom Luani, S, Washington State (42)
253. Travis Rudolph, WR, Florida State (41)
254. Quincy Adeboyejo, WR, Mississippi (41)
255. Tanner Vallejo, OLB, Boise State (41)
256. Cethan Carter, TE, Nebraska (41)
257. Noble Nwachukwu, DE, West Virginia (41)
258. Cameron Lee, G, Illinois State (41)
259. Will Likely, CB, Maryland (41)
260. J.J. Dielman, C, Utah (40)
261. Artavis Scott, WR, Clemson (40)
262. Jermaine Grace, OLB, Miami (Fla.) (40)
263. Jahad Thomas, RB, Temple (40)
264. Greg Pyke, G, Georgia (40)
265. Harvey Langi, ILB, Brigham Young (40)
266. Trent Taylor, WR, Louisiana Tech (40)
267. Tedric Thompson, S, Colorado (39)
268. Marquel Lee, OLB, Wake Forest (39)
269. Ricky Seals-Jones, WR, Texas A&M (39)
270. Jason Croom, TE, Tennessee (39)
271. Connor Harris, ILB, Lindenwood (39)
272. Cameron Johnston, P, Ohio State (39)
273. Kyle Kalis, G, Michigan (39)
274. Devine Redding, RB, Indiana (39)
275. Cameron Tom, C, Southern Miss (39)
276. Channing Stribling, CB, Michigan (39)
277. Rushel Shell, RB, West Virginia (38)
278. Ben Boulware, ILB, Clemson (38)
279. Caleb Peterson, G, North Carolina (38)
280. Sojourn Shelton, CB, Wisconsin (38)
281. Ahmad Thomas, S, Oklahoma (38)
282. Blake Jarwin, TE, Oklahoma State (38)
283. Keevan Lucas, WR, Tulsa (38)
284. Jerry Ugokwe, OT, William & Mary (38)
285. Freddie Stevenson, FB, Florida State (38)
286. Gabe Marks, WR, Washington State (37)
287. Riley Bullough, ILB, Michigan State (37)
288. Chuck Clark, S, Virginia Tech (37)
289. Elijah Hood, RB, North Carolina (37)
290. Darrell Daniels, TE, Washington (37)
291. Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (37)
292. Ezra Robinson, CB, Tennessee State (37)
293. Nate Theaker, G, Wayne State (37)
294. Steven Taylor, OLB, Houston (37)
295. Corey Vereen, DE, Tennessee (37)
296. Jamal Carter, S, Miami (Fla.) (36)
297. Chunky Clements, DT, Illinois (36)
298. Brooks Ellis, ILB, Arkansas (36)
299. Keon Hatcher, WR, Arkansas (36)
300. Aaron Jones, RB, UTEP (36)
 

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Top 50 MLB draft prospects: Two-way stars top our list

This year’s draft class has been, on the whole, disappointing. We came into the spring with a surfeit of candidates for the top spot and for the top 10 in general, but far more top prospects have underperformed so far than have boosted their stock. Even Kyle Wright, ranked No. 2 below, has had an up-and-down season and just recently started to turn the corner with 16 shutout innings in his past two starts.

When you combine the overall lack of star-caliber performances with the draft’s (known) lack of position players up the middle, you get an opportunity for solid college performers at the plate and on the mound to move up in the rankings, given that on draft day, teams will likely flee to safety even more than they normally do. If you don’t feel great about the various upside players available at your pick, you might just take the player with the track record of production, perhaps cutting a deal to save some money and go over-slot with later picks. That has boosted the two bats at Virginia on this list, two bats at North Carolina (one listed, with Brian Miller somewhere in the next 10-20 names) and some solid college starters such as Morgan Cooper and Griffin Canning.

This list is a ranking -- not a prediction of who will be picked where on draft day. I don’t think teams have narrowed their lists enough to write a first-round projection that’s worth the electrons I’d expend on it. I do think, however, that my list will tend to rank high school pitchers higher than they’ll be selected on draft day because this group of prep arms as a whole is not as good as the classes of the past few years.

That said, the class as a whole just isn’t deep in any category. I tried to come up with a hundred names worthy of ranking in a top 100, which I’ll do in a few weeks, and stalled out after around 70 to 75 who merited it. Perhaps that will mean a run on the handful of high-upside prep players, both pitchers and hitters, once we get to teams’ second picks in the sandwich round -- players I’ve identified as first-rounders based strictly on talent, without regard to signability or individual teams’ preferences for safer college players. 1. Hunter Greene, RHP/SS, Notre Dame (Sherman Oaks, California) High School

The year’s top talent is a 17-year-old phenom from Giancarlo Stanton’s alma mater, a true two-way prospect who plays elite-level defense at short and has raw power, but who is a better prospect on the mound. There he has reached 101 mph and sits in the mid-90s with easy arm action and tremendous athleticism.

2. Kyle Wright, RHP, Vanderbilt

Wright’s outing against Florida on April 14 re-established him as one of the top three college pitchers in the draft. He has the delivery and size of a starter, with an out pitch in his slider and a fastball that has reached 96. If he maintains the command and aggressiveness he showed against the Gators, he should be the first college right-hander taken.

3. Brendan McKay, LHP/1B, Louisville

McKay, like Greene, is a true two-way prospect, with some scouts saying he’s the best pure hitter in the draft. I think he’s a better prospect on the mound, with a 90-95 mph fastball and plus curveball along with a long track record of performance.

4. Royce Lewis, SS/2B, Jserra Catholic (San Juan Capistrano, California) High School

Lewis has pretty good feel to hit and tons of athleticism, including a plus-plus run tool, that should make him a top-10 pick even though he lacks a clear position. His arm isn’t strong enough for the left side of the infield, and he might move off the dirt completely.

5. J.B. Bukauskas, RHP, North Carolina

Bukauskas has a plus fastball and plus slider now, though UNC has him overusing the latter pitch, and he can turn over his changeup well enough that I think he’ll end up with three above-average weapons. He’s also a 6-foot right-hander with no fastball plane and a delivery that makes no use of his lower half, which gives him reliever risk that Wright and McKay lack.

6. MacKenzie Gore, LHP, Whiteville (North Carolina) High School

Gore might be this year’s Braxton Garrett, a lefty with an average fastball but command and feel beyond his years, along with a tight curveball that looks like a potential out pitch.

7. Pavin Smith, 1B, Virginia

Smith is the safest of safe guys, as he has been among the hardest Division I hitters to strike out (just six times through 43 games and 195 PA through April 22), while making hard contact and showing some power. College first basemen taken in the first round do not have a strong track record, however.

8. DL Hall, LHP, Valdosta (Georgia) High School

Hall works in the low 90s with a hammer curveball but lacks the command and control of Gore and has some cross-body action in his delivery. He might have more long-term upside than Gore, but I’d bet on Gore to move through the minors more quickly.

9. Nick Pratto, 1B, Huntington Beach (California) High School

Pratto seems to have separated himself as the best pure hitter among the high school crop this year, though high school first basemen taken high don’t have the greatest track record, either.

10. Jeren Kendall, OF, Vanderbilt

Kendall could easily slip into the back of the first round after a spring in which he has had trouble making contact, but the athleticism here -- maybe an 80 runner, with bat speed and good range in center -- is hard to pass up. I think the team that takes Kendall has to be ready to overhaul his entire swing.

11. Adam Haseley, OF, Virginia

Haseley leads the Cavaliers in all three triple-slash stats (.396/.495/.689) and in walks (32) through April 22, showing surprising power and the potential to stay in centerfield long-term, though I don’t know that he’s going to have more than fringy power with the wood bat.

12. Austin Beck, OF, North Davidson (Lexington, North Carolina) High School

Beck is already pretty tooled up and physically mature, with tremendous bat speed, but there is some effort to his game and some trouble with off-speed stuff.

13. Alex Faedo, RHP, Florida

Faedo looks reliever-ish to me, though I know enough scouts think he can start that I’d call it 60/40 that he ends up in the pen. He has shown bigger velocity in the past but is more average this year, with a plus slider and below-average command.

14. Mark Vientos, SS, American Heritage (Plantation, Florida) High School

Vientos is one of the more promising prep bats in the class, with good bat speed and big rotation for future power. He’ll be just 17-and-a-half at the draft -- and he looks it, with a young body that offers a ton of physical projection. He’s a shortstop now but almost certainly moves off the position to third or second.

15. Sam Carlson, RHP, Burnsville (Minnesota) High School

I believe Carlson was the last prospect on this list to play in a game this spring, as he made his season debut earlier this month and came out hot at 92-96, with a good delivery and a body that looks ready to step into a big league rotation.

16. Blayne Enlow, RHP, St. Amant (Louisiana) High School

Enlow is a very projectable prep right-hander who works in the 88-92 range now but has three pitches and a good delivery and frame to end up with a lot more stuff down the road.

17. Brendon Little, LHP, State College of Florida -- Manatee (Bradenton, Florida)

UNC couldn’t find any innings for Little last spring. He transferred to junior college and has been up to 96 this spring with a hammer curveball and a workable changeup, though his height and short stride raise reliever questions with him too.

18. Trevor Rogers, LHP, Carlsbad (New Mexico) High School

Rogers is one of the oldest prep players in the class -- he’ll turn 20 in November -- but the stuff is there now, up to the mid-90s with a very hard slider and a lightning-quick arm.

19. Conner Uselton, OF, Southmoore (Moore, Oklahoma) High School

Uselton has looked better in the field and on the bases this spring, with some scouts giving him a chance to stay in center, though there’s a good chance his bat will profile just fine in a corner. His hands load somewhat deep, and his swing is geared for power now, rather than contact.

20. Griffin Canning, RHP, UCLA

Canning has an unorthodox delivery, but he throws a lot of strikes with his 93-94 mph fastball and power slider. He was worked hard as a freshman swingman, however, and he’s walking guys at the highest rate of his college career.

21. Heliot Ramos, OF, Alfonso Casta Martinez (Maunabo, Puerto Rico) High School

Ramos has a very direct swing that should produce tons of contact and at least average power. He’s a plus runner with the arm strength to end up an all-around asset in center.

22. Hans Crouse, RHP, Dana Hills (Dana Point, California) High School

He has reliever risk due to his high-effort delivery, but Crouse has premium stuff and goes right after hitters. He helped himself when he touched 97 at the well-scouted National High School Invitational tournament in late March.

23. Calvin Mitchell, 1B, Rancho Bernardo (San Diego) High School

Mitchell is one of the best pure bats in the draft class, with a quiet approach and simple, left-handed swing. But like Pratto, he is limited to first base, and he probably doesn’t have the same power potential as Pratto.

24. Jake Burger, 3B, Missouri State

Berger has real power and rarely strikes out, though scouts think the power is ahead of his hit tool. He’s already at 16 homers this spring after hitting 21 last year and has walked more than he has punched out. He’s very likely to end up at first base.

25. Bubba Thompson, OF, McGill-Toolen (Mobile, Alabama) High School

Thompson is committed to the University of Alabama to play baseball and football, but he’s almost certainly going to be drafted high enough that it won’t matter. He’s an 80 runner with power and athleticism, but there are questions about how raw he is as a hitter right now.
 

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26. Logan Warmoth, SS, North Carolina

Warmoth leads the Heels in most offensive categories, as the junior shortstop is showing more power and patience this season. The leading thought from scouts is that he’ll move to third or second but show enough pop to profile as a regular at either spot.

27. Nick Allen, SS, Francis Parker (San Diego) High School

The biggest knock on Allen is his size -- he’s maybe 5-foot-8 and maxed out -- but he’s a true shortstop who has hit everywhere he has played, and scouts love his style of play. He might end up in the second round because of his height and teams’ reluctance to pin their draft class on someone so undersized.

28. Garrett Mitchell, OF, Orange Lutheran (Orange, California) High School

Mitchell is one of the draft’s top athletes, a plus runner with bat speed and a live body, but questions around his ability to hit and whether diabetes will impact his durability have him seen as more of a sandwich-round pick.

29. Drew Waters, OF, Etowah (Woodstock, Georgia) High School,

The switch-hitting outfielder makes hard contact from both sides of the plate, with the arm and speed to have at least a good shot to stay in center field.

30. Hagen Danner, RHP/C, Huntington Beach (California) High School

Danner is a bat-first catcher who almost certainly moves off the position in pro ball, but he is also a power arm on the mound and probably has a better chance to reach the majors as a pitcher.

31. Steven Jennings, RHP, Dekalb County (Brush Creek, Tennessee) High School

Jennings tore his ACL in September while playing quarterback and came back midway through his school’s baseball season. His stuff has been inconsistent compared to last spring and summer.

32. Kyle Hurt, RHP, Torrey Pines (San Diego) High School

Hurt came back too soon from an ACL injury and has lost some velocity, but assuming the knee is the only problem, he’s a value play for teams that saw him last summer and fall as a probable mid-rotation starter.

33. Keston Hiura, DH/2B, UC Irvine


Hiura is another plus hit tool guy, but he always had a below-average arm that limited his potential positions, and now he isn't throwing at all because of injury.

34. Caden Lemons, RHP, Vestavia Hills (Alabama) High School

Lemons has already been up to 95-96 and remains very projectable with a long, skinny frame. He leads a strong pack of Alabama prep pitchers this year.

35. Blaine Knight, RHP, Arkansas

Knight had been cruising all year until Auburn lit him up on April 21 (eight runs in 2.1 innings, with four walks allowed). He’s a three-pitch guy with some violence in the delivery, and until this past weekend, he was among the few strong performers in the college pitching crop.

36. Nate Pearson, RHP, College of Central Florida

A transfer from FIU, Pearson is 6-foot-6 and gets on top of the ball well, so he’s throwing 92-94 at the bottom of the zone, but his secondary stuff is still below average.

37. Morgan Cooper, RHP, Texas

Cooper missed 2015 after Tommy John surgery and is now a fourth-year junior, with strong results this season and big downhill plane on a 93-95 mph fastball.

38. Tanner Houck, RHP, Missouri

Houck is a two-pitch guy with a reliever’s delivery. He has seen his performance drop this spring as his stuff has backed up a little bit.

39. Wil Crowe, RHP, South Carolina

Crowe also has his share of medical questions, including his own Tommy John surgery, and would probably be a top-20 pick if he had the same stuff and results with a clean health record.

40. Tanner Burns, RHP, Decatur (Alabama) High School

Burns has been 94-97 with a good curveball, but he’s also a 6-foot right-hander who’ll be 18 and five months on draft day, all of which combine to limit his ceiling and peg him as a reliever in many teams’ eyes.

41. Alex Lange, RHP, LSU

Lange misses bats with his mid-90s fastball and hard curveball, but it’s a violent delivery with a head whack, which limits his command and increases the odds that he ends up in the bullpen.

42. Adam Oviedo, SS, Alvarado (Texas) High School

Oviedo looks like he’ll outgrow shortstop, but he has the arm and footwork to be above average to plus at third base, with a short swing that has good loft for future power as well.

43. Ricardo de la Torre, SS, Puerto Rico Baseball Academy (Gurabo, Puerto Rico)

De la Torre is one of the few true shortstops in the draft class, with a good chance to stay at the position given his arm and quickness, but he’ll need some help with consistency and footwork, and his bat is not advanced right now.

44. Ryan Vilade, SS, Stillwater (Oklahoma) High School

Vilade, the son of Oklahoma State assistant coach James Vilade, plays short now but will move to third base in pro ball, where his plus raw power will make him a good regular as long as he hits enough to get to it.

45. Shane Baz, RHP, Concordia Lutheran (Tomball, Texas) High School

Baz has touched 98 with a good slider, but there is concern about the delivery and how well hitters seem to see his fastball.

46. MJ Melendez, C, Westminster Christian (Miami) High School

Melendez can really throw, and some folks think he’ll end up a plus receiver -- I’m on the fence -- but his bat wrap means he doesn’t make a ton of contact right now to go with his power.

47. Luis Campusano-Bracero, C, Cross Creek (Augusta, Georgia) High School

Campusano-Bracero cleaned his body up substantially over the winter and has run up the board in a year that has very few significant catching prospects.

48. Alex Scherff, RHP, Colleyville Heritage (Colleyville, Texas) High School

Scherff is 91-94 with some late life, can spin a good curveball and at least has a changeup now, so the arsenal is there for him to start, though the short stride in his delivery is a potential risk factor for him to end up in the bullpen.

49. Jacob Heatherly, LHP, Cullman (Alabama) High School

Heatherly came into the year as a possible first-rounder but has been more 89-93 this year and struggled with command, though he can still get some angle on his slurvy breaking ball. He might be a good value target for a team looking to overpay in the second.

50. Cordell Dunn, C, Center Hill (Olive Branch, Mississippi) High School

Dunn is very strong and has a plus arm. He needs work on receiving, but he hits with wood in games and has a very good, simple swing, which should balance out concerns about the atrocious track record of high school bats coming out of Mississippi.
 

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Tryna see what the two draft experts are saying...Thanks in advance!

Kiper's Round 1 winners, question marks, more
Kiper's Round 1 winners, question marks, more


Well, Day 1 of the 2017 NFL draft was eventful, right? We started the day thinking top quarterback Mitchell Trubisky would go No. 1 overall, and then we thought he might fall out of the top 10, and then the Bears pulled off a stunner to move up to No. 2 and take him. That's the draft for you.

So here are the moves I liked from the first round, along with some that provide more questions than answers, with a few nuggets in between. If you don't see your team here, remember, I'm going to break down all 32 teams in my draft grades on Saturday night.



Winners

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1. San Francisco 49ers
The Niners are the early favorite to earn an A in my post-draft grades, making two trades and getting two prospects I ranked in my top eight. To move down one spot from No. 2 to No. 3 with the Bears, they also got picks Nos. 67 and 111 this year and a third-round pick in 2018. That's a heist. Then the Niners got their guy anyway, adding defensive lineman Solomon Thomas, a versatile pass-rusher who had a dominant 2016 season.

San Francisco also used pick No. 34 at the top of the second round and the No. 111 pick it got from the Bears to move up to No. 31 and take Reuben Foster, the best inside linebacker in the draft. Off-field issues caused him to drop, but Foster's talent is undeniable. On talent alone, he's a top-five prospect.

In the first draft of the John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan era, San Francisco got the best value of any team. And with needs across the roster, that's a good first step. Now, the 49ers still have a quarterback issue, but this is going to be a long rebuild. I wouldn't be surprised if they take a flier on a developmental QB in the middle rounds. They have two picks each in the third, fourth, fifth and sixth rounds.

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2. New York Jets
The Jets have needs all over their roster, so they get a win for taking the best player available. Jamal Adams is one of the safest picks in this class, a defender who can play in the box, cover tight ends and slot receivers and blitz. He is built for today's NFL. Plus Adams is a winner, too; he was drafted higher than his father, George, who was taken 19th overall in 1985. They made a $50,000 bet about who would be drafted higher. Pay up, George!
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3. Cleveland Browns
The Browns? Winners? Yes. Here's why: They didn't overthink Myles Garrett at No. 1. He's the best prospect in this class, and he deserved to be the top pick. They picked up two guys I really liked -- safety Jabrill Peppers, who dropped due to a dilute sample at the combine, and tight end David Njoku -- with two trades. And they got Houston's first-round pick in 2018.
You can argue that they passed on all of the quarterbacks -- and remember, they passed on Carson Wentz last year, too -- but I don't fault the Browns for not taking Deshaun Watson at No. 12 and moving back. He was my No. 3-ranked quarterback and 34th-ranked player overall. They didn't reach for a quarterback they didn't love, and they got a future first-round pick. The Browns now have five picks in the top two rounds next year.

They're going to need a quarterback at some point. I know. But Cody Kessler was decent as a rookie, and he likely was going to take most of the snaps in 2017, anyway. Cleveland will be in the market for a quarterback next year, and the Browns got better today. That's big for their future.

More moves I liked
  • The Redskins got Jonathan Allen, the No. 2 player on my board, at 17. That could be the steal of the draft, as clearly teams were concerned about his shoulder, which has required past surgeries. Great value for Washington, which must improve its front seven.
  • If Allen isn't the steal of the draft, it could be his former teammate O.J. Howard, who dropped to the Bucs at No. 19. Howard is the best tight end in the class, a complete player who is already a good blocker. That's rare coming out of college, and he also has elite athleticism.
  • Buffalo got a third-round pick this year and a 2018 first-rounder in a trade with Kansas City. The Bills had the fewest picks in the draft (six, tied with Atlanta), so they desperately needed some draft capital. At No. 27, they picked up Tre'Davious White, a veteran corner who could replace Stephon Gilmore.
  • The Saints ended up with the best corner in the draft at No. 11 in Marshon Lattimore. That probably ends any Malcolm Butler trade rumblings.
  • There were no quarterbacks left on the board at No. 13, so the Cardinals filled the biggest hole on their roster by taking Haason Reddikk, who could play inside or outside linebacker.
  • Miami got good value in pass-rusher Charles Harris at No. 22. He's my 12th-ranked prospect.
  • Linebacker Jarrad Davis should start as a rookie for the Lions. I love his intangibles and attitude.


Question marks
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1. Chicago Bears
If the Bears think Mitchell Trubisky is their quarterback of the future, I don't question targeting him, even though he was more of a mid- to late-first-round talent on my board. It's what they gave up to get him that I question. To move up one spot, Chicago gave up picks Nos. 3, 67 and 111 this year and a third-round pick in 2018. That's a ton, and the Bears have several needs elsewhere, particularly in the secondary. Mike Glennon could be one-and-done in Chicago -- he has only $18.5 million guaranteed -- and Trubisky could get the developmental year he needs. He has a high ceiling but only one year of collegiate starting experience. This is a risky pick for the Bears' -- and general manager Ryan Pace's -- future.



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2. Tennessee Titans
Both of the Titans' picks were reaches on my board. Wide receiver Corey Davis is my 16th-ranked prospect, and Tennessee took him at No. 5. Cornerback Adoree' Jackson is my 30th-ranked player, and Tennessee got him at No. 18. Were there no takers to trade down? Look, I like both of these players, but the value isn't there. Davis wasn't at the combine because of an ankle injury, and we still don't know his true top-end speed. That's a roll of the dice. At his best, he could be a No. 1 wideout for Marcus Mariota, lining up outside and in the slot, and he's great after the catch. As for Jackson, Kevin King was higher on my board, and No. 18 is high for a raw, undersized (5-10, 186) corner who might have to play in the slot as a rookie. He's talented, but he must improve his technique. Now, I should give Tennessee credit for addressing needs. But remember, the Titans don't have a second-round pick because of last year's trade up to get Jack Conklin. They have to hit on Davis and Jackson.


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3. Kansas City Chiefs & Houston Texans
I'm grouping these together because of the huge trades they made to move up and take quarterbacks.
Kansas City gave up its first- and third-round picks this year plus its first-round pick next year to take Patrick Mahomes at No. 10. That's a lot to give up for someone who might not see the field for a playoff contender. Mahomes is super raw and toolsy and he certainly needs time to sit. Now he'll get the chance to learn behind Alex Smith, who is signed through 2019. Could Mahomes be a two-year redshirt? Those don't happen much anymore, but he needs some time. Mahomes has a huge arm, but the Texas Tech system he comes from hasn't translated well at the NFL level. He was the No. 26 prospect on my Big Board.

The Texans, meanwhile, surrendered pick No. 25 and a first-round pick next year to move up to No. 12 to take Deshaun Watson, betting big on a guy with a championship pedigree. But Watson had an inconsistent 2016 season, and he has thrown 30 interceptions over the past two seasons. I love his toughness, and I think he'll compete with Tom Savage immediately, but this is a reach on my board (he's ranked No. 34). I saw too many issues on tape to put Watson in the first round on my board.

More lingering questions
  • The Bengals' offense didn't look the same after losing Mohamed Sanu and Marvin Jones in free agency last year, and I had receiver as my top need for Cincinnati. But No. 9 is a little rich for speedster John Ross, who has a history of injuries. He had shoulder surgery in March and missed the 2015 season with a torn ACL.
  • I dropped Taco Charlton to No. 46 on my final Big Board, and the Cowboys took him at 28. I know they need pass-rushers, but T.J. Watt and DeMarcus Walker are higher on my board.
  • Denver, with its choice of any offensive tackle in the class at No. 20, went with soon-to-be 25-year-old Garett Bolles. I'm not sold that he'll stick at left tackle, and he's my third-ranked tackle.
 

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Todd McShay's Round 1 NFL draft awards


PHILADELPHIA -- In all of my years of doing this, I can't remember a wilder first 10 picks than what we saw unfold here Thursday night. And we were just getting started.

With Round 1 of the 2017 NFL draft in the books, let's run through some of the best picks of the night, the biggest surprises, my favorite team/player fit and the team that stole the show in Round 1. Here are the Round 1 awards.





Biggest steals


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Tampa Bay Buccaneers
O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (pick No. 19)

Howard fell further than he should've, the result of three wide receivers and three quarterbacks coming off the board in the top 12 picks. Tampa Bay entered the draft with a need for another playmaker in the middle of the field for Jameis Winston, and they ended up with Howard (No. 7 overall player) at pick 19. The Buccaneers have done a nice job of bolstering their passing game this offseason with the additions of DeSean Jackson and Howard, a help after Vincent Jackson's departure.


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New York Jets
Jamal Adams, S, LSU (pick No. 6)

The Jets were the biggest beneficiaries of a wild first five picks. Adams, our No. 2 overall player, fell into their lap at the sixth overall pick. It was reminiscent of two years ago, when my No. 2 player (Leonard Williams) fell into the Jets' lap at the sixth pick. Adams is one of the few culture-changing players in this draft, and the Jets had a massive need for more players like that in the secondary. Total home run.




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San Francisco 49ers
Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford; Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama (picks No. 3 and 31)

Thomas and Foster are two of the eight best players in this draft, so this is quite a haul for the 49ers. But what really stands out are the additional picks GM John Lynch was able to acquire as he moved up and down the draft board. They collected a ransom from Chicago, as the Bears gave up third- and fourth-round picks this year and a third-rounder next year to move up to No. 2 and take QB Mitchell Trubisky. I mean, that was flat-out highway robbery. The 49ers used some of their extra ammo to trade back into the first round with Foster still on the board. All in all, San Francisco netted out with two Day 1 difference-makers on defense and extra midround picks. Not bad for Lynch's first draft.



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Cincinnati Bengals
John Ross, WR, Washington (pick no. 9)

Ross is the best big-play threat in this draft. His 4.22 speed shows up all over the tape, but I'm a little surprised he came off the board this high -- and that Cincinnati was the team to select him. We had him as the No. 20 overall player, with durability questions keeping him from being ranked higher (he has had shoulder and knee issues). Yes, the Bengals needed to add depth to their WR corps, but after spending a second-rounder on Tyler Boyd last year, I was surprised to see them use another premium pick on a wide receiver.



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Kansas City Chiefs
Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech (pick No. 10)

Leading up to the draft, I had heard that the Chiefs and Cardinals were eyeing Mahomes. With Arizona picking 13th overall, Kansas City opted to move all the way up from 27 to 10 to get their guy, giving up a 2017 third-round pick and a 2018 first-rounder. This is a great landing spot for Mahomes: He'll be given the time to refine his raw skill set, and won't be rushed onto the field. Andy Reid is the perfect QB mentor; I was just surprised Kansas City moved up that far. At the end of the day, no one will remember what the Chiefs gave away if Mahomes turns out to be its decade-long starter -- and the same's true for Mitchell Trubisky in Chicago.



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Atlanta Falcons
Takkarist McKinley, DE, UCLA (pick No. 26)

The Falcons needed to find an explosive pass-rusher to complement Vic Beasley Jr. off the edge. McKinley shows excellent first-step quickness on tape, and he plays his tail off. He has the best motor of any defensive player in this draft. The Falcons clearly covet speed on defense, and they added more to the fold on Thursday night.
 

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Todd McShay's Round 1 NFL draft awards



PHILADELPHIA -- In all of my years of doing this, I can't remember a wilder first 10 picks than what we saw unfold here Thursday night. And we were just getting started.

With Round 1 of the 2017 NFL draft in the books, let's run through some of the best picks of the night, the biggest surprises, my favorite team/player fit and the team that stole the show in Round 1. Here are the Round 1 awards.





Biggest steals


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Tampa Bay Buccaneers
O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (pick No. 19)

Howard fell further than he should've, the result of three wide receivers and three quarterbacks coming off the board in the top 12 picks. Tampa Bay entered the draft with a need for another playmaker in the middle of the field for Jameis Winston, and they ended up with Howard (No. 7 overall player) at pick 19. The Buccaneers have done a nice job of bolstering their passing game this offseason with the additions of DeSean Jackson and Howard, a help after Vincent Jackson's departure.


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New York Jets
Jamal Adams, S, LSU (pick No. 6)

The Jets were the biggest beneficiaries of a wild first five picks. Adams, our No. 2 overall player, fell into their lap at the sixth overall pick. It was reminiscent of two years ago, when my No. 2 player (Leonard Williams) fell into the Jets' lap at the sixth pick. Adams is one of the few culture-changing players in this draft, and the Jets had a massive need for more players like that in the secondary. Total home run.




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San Francisco 49ers
Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford; Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama (picks No. 3 and 31)

Thomas and Foster are two of the eight best players in this draft, so this is quite a haul for the 49ers. But what really stands out are the additional picks GM John Lynch was able to acquire as he moved up and down the draft board. They collected a ransom from Chicago, as the Bears gave up third- and fourth-round picks this year and a third-rounder next year to move up to No. 2 and take QB Mitchell Trubisky. I mean, that was flat-out highway robbery. The 49ers used some of their extra ammo to trade back into the first round with Foster still on the board. All in all, San Francisco netted out with two Day 1 difference-makers on defense and extra midround picks. Not bad for Lynch's first draft.



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Cincinnati Bengals
John Ross, WR, Washington (pick no. 9)

Ross is the best big-play threat in this draft. His 4.22 speed shows up all over the tape, but I'm a little surprised he came off the board this high -- and that Cincinnati was the team to select him. We had him as the No. 20 overall player, with durability questions keeping him from being ranked higher (he has had shoulder and knee issues). Yes, the Bengals needed to add depth to their WR corps, but after spending a second-rounder on Tyler Boyd last year, I was surprised to see them use another premium pick on a wide receiver.



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Kansas City Chiefs
Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech (pick No. 10)

Leading up to the draft, I had heard that the Chiefs and Cardinals were eyeing Mahomes. With Arizona picking 13th overall, Kansas City opted to move all the way up from 27 to 10 to get their guy, giving up a 2017 third-round pick and a 2018 first-rounder. This is a great landing spot for Mahomes: He'll be given the time to refine his raw skill set, and won't be rushed onto the field. Andy Reid is the perfect QB mentor; I was just surprised Kansas City moved up that far. At the end of the day, no one will remember what the Chiefs gave away if Mahomes turns out to be its decade-long starter -- and the same's true for Mitchell Trubisky in Chicago.



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Atlanta Falcons
Takkarist McKinley, DE, UCLA (pick No. 26)

The Falcons needed to find an explosive pass-rusher to complement Vic Beasley Jr. off the edge. McKinley shows excellent first-step quickness on tape, and he plays his tail off. He has the best motor of any defensive player in this draft. The Falcons clearly covet speed on defense, and they added more to the fold on Thursday night.
 

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Kiper's Round 1 winners, question marks, more


Well, Day 1 of the 2017 NFL draft was eventful, right? We started the day thinking top quarterback Mitchell Trubisky would go No. 1 overall, and then we thought he might fall out of the top 10, and then the Bears pulled off a stunner to move up to No. 2 and take him. That's the draft for you.

So here are the moves I liked from the first round, along with some that provide more questions than answers, with a few nuggets in between. If you don't see your team here, remember, I'm going to break down all 32 teams in my draft grades on Saturday night.



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1. San Francisco 49ers
The Niners are the early favorite to earn an A in my post-draft grades, making two trades and getting two prospects I ranked in my top eight. To move down one spot from No. 2 to No. 3 with the Bears, they also got picks Nos. 67 and 111 this year and a third-round pick in 2018. That's a heist. Then the Niners got their guy anyway, adding defensive lineman Solomon Thomas, a versatile pass-rusher who had a dominant 2016 season.

San Francisco also used pick No. 34 at the top of the second round and the No. 111 pick it got from the Bears to move up to No. 31 and take Reuben Foster, the best inside linebacker in the draft. Off-field issues caused him to drop, but Foster's talent is undeniable. On talent alone, he's a top-five prospect.

In the first draft of the John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan era, San Francisco got the best value of any team. And with needs across the roster, that's a good first step. Now, the 49ers still have a quarterback issue, but this is going to be a long rebuild. I wouldn't be surprised if they take a flier on a developmental QB in the middle rounds. They have two picks each in the third, fourth, fifth and sixth rounds.

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2. New York Jets
The Jets have needs all over their roster, so they get a win for taking the best player available. Jamal Adams is one of the safest picks in this class, a defender who can play in the box, cover tight ends and slot receivers and blitz. He is built for today's NFL. Plus Adams is a winner, too; he was drafted higher than his father, George, who was taken 19th overall in 1985. They made a $50,000 bet about who would be drafted higher. Pay up, George!
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3. Cleveland Browns
The Browns? Winners? Yes. Here's why: They didn't overthink Myles Garrett at No. 1. He's the best prospect in this class, and he deserved to be the top pick. They picked up two guys I really liked -- safety Jabrill Peppers, who dropped due to a dilute sample at the combine, and tight end David Njoku -- with two trades. And they got Houston's first-round pick in 2018.
You can argue that they passed on all of the quarterbacks -- and remember, they passed on Carson Wentz last year, too -- but I don't fault the Browns for not taking Deshaun Watson at No. 12 and moving back. He was my No. 3-ranked quarterback and 34th-ranked player overall. They didn't reach for a quarterback they didn't love, and they got a future first-round pick. The Browns now have five picks in the top two rounds next year.

They're going to need a quarterback at some point. I know. But Cody Kessler was decent as a rookie, and he likely was going to take most of the snaps in 2017, anyway. Cleveland will be in the market for a quarterback next year, and the Browns got better today. That's big for their future.

More moves I liked
  • The Redskins got Jonathan Allen, the No. 2 player on my board, at 17. That could be the steal of the draft, as clearly teams were concerned about his shoulder, which has required past surgeries. Great value for Washington, which must improve its front seven.
  • If Allen isn't the steal of the draft, it could be his former teammate O.J. Howard, who dropped to the Bucs at No. 19. Howard is the best tight end in the class, a complete player who is already a good blocker. That's rare coming out of college, and he also has elite athleticism.
  • Buffalo got a third-round pick this year and a 2018 first-rounder in a trade with Kansas City. The Bills had the fewest picks in the draft (six, tied with Atlanta), so they desperately needed some draft capital. At No. 27, they picked up Tre'Davious White, a veteran corner who could replace Stephon Gilmore.
  • The Saints ended up with the best corner in the draft at No. 11 in Marshon Lattimore. That probably ends any Malcolm Butler trade rumblings.
  • There were no quarterbacks left on the board at No. 13, so the Cardinals filled the biggest hole on their roster by taking Haason Reddikk, who could play inside or outside linebacker.
  • Miami got good value in pass-rusher Charles Harris at No. 22. He's my 12th-ranked prospect.
  • Linebacker Jarrad Davis should start as a rookie for the Lions. I love his intangibles and attitude.


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1. Chicago Bears
If the Bears think Mitchell Trubisky is their quarterback of the future, I don't question targeting him, even though he was more of a mid- to late-first-round talent on my board. It's what they gave up to get him that I question. To move up one spot, Chicago gave up picks Nos. 3, 67 and 111 this year and a third-round pick in 2018. That's a ton, and the Bears have several needs elsewhere, particularly in the secondary. Mike Glennon could be one-and-done in Chicago -- he has only $18.5 million guaranteed -- and Trubisky could get the developmental year he needs. He has a high ceiling but only one year of collegiate starting experience. This is a risky pick for the Bears' -- and general manager Ryan Pace's -- future.



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2. Tennessee Titans
Both of the Titans' picks were reaches on my board. Wide receiver Corey Davis is my 16th-ranked prospect, and Tennessee took him at No. 5. Cornerback Adoree' Jackson is my 30th-ranked player, and Tennessee got him at No. 18. Were there no takers to trade down? Look, I like both of these players, but the value isn't there. Davis wasn't at the combine because of an ankle injury, and we still don't know his true top-end speed. That's a roll of the dice. At his best, he could be a No. 1 wideout for Marcus Mariota, lining up outside and in the slot, and he's great after the catch. As for Jackson, Kevin King was higher on my board, and No. 18 is high for a raw, undersized (5-10, 186) corner who might have to play in the slot as a rookie. He's talented, but he must improve his technique. Now, I should give Tennessee credit for addressing needs. But remember, the Titans don't have a second-round pick because of last year's trade up to get Jack Conklin. They have to hit on Davis and Jackson.


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3. Kansas City Chiefs & Houston Texans
I'm grouping these together because of the huge trades they made to move up and take quarterbacks.
Kansas City gave up its first- and third-round picks this year plus its first-round pick next year to take Patrick Mahomes at No. 10. That's a lot to give up for someone who might not see the field for a playoff contender. Mahomes is super raw and toolsy and he certainly needs time to sit. Now he'll get the chance to learn behind Alex Smith, who is signed through 2019. Could Mahomes be a two-year redshirt? Those don't happen much anymore, but he needs some time. Mahomes has a huge arm, but the Texas Tech system he comes from hasn't translated well at the NFL level. He was the No. 26 prospect on my Big Board.

The Texans, meanwhile, surrendered pick No. 25 and a first-round pick next year to move up to No. 12 to take Deshaun Watson, betting big on a guy with a championship pedigree. But Watson had an inconsistent 2016 season, and he has thrown 30 interceptions over the past two seasons. I love his toughness, and I think he'll compete with Tom Savage immediately, but this is a reach on my board (he's ranked No. 34). I saw too many issues on tape to put Watson in the first round on my board.

More lingering questions
  • The Bengals' offense didn't look the same after losing Mohamed Sanu and Marvin Jones in free agency last year, and I had receiver as my top need for Cincinnati. But No. 9 is a little rich for speedster John Ross, who has a history of injuries. He had shoulder surgery in March and missed the 2015 season with a torn ACL.
  • I dropped Taco Charlton to No. 46 on my final Big Board, and the Cowboys took him at 28. I know they need pass-rushers, but T.J. Watt and DeMarcus Walker are higher on my board.
  • Denver, with its choice of any offensive tackle in the class at No. 20, went with soon-to-be 25-year-old Garett Bolles. I'm not sold that he'll stick at left tackle, and he's my third-ranked tackle.
 

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McShay's top 10 undrafted 2017 prospects




The 2017 NFL draft has come to an end, but there's still a bevy of undrafted free agents who will be available for teams to sign.

Here is my ranking of the top 10 undrafted prospects, along with scouting reports from Steve Muench and Kevin Weidl that ran in my pre-draft Top 300. The player's Scouts Inc. grade is in parentheses.





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1. Lorenzo Jerome, S, St. Francis


Grade: 73 | Watch Jerome's highlights

What he brings: A smaller safety who didn't test well at the combine, Jerome is a better football player than athlete, and he eased concerns about the level of competition he faced in college with a strong showing at the Senior Bowl. Jerome's experience returning kicks will help his stock. -- Steve Muench




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2. Cole Hikutini, TE, Louisville
Grade: 69 | Watch Hikutini's highlights

What he brings: Hikutini can still add polish as a route runner and improve his blocking. But his quality size and the athleticism he shows getting out of his stem gives him the potential to develop into a starter down the road. -- Kevin Weidl



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3. Keionta Davis, DE, Chattanooga
Grade: 69 | Watch Davis's highlights

What he brings: Davis has some stiffness and limitations athletically, but we love his physicality as an edge defender. He shows good initial quickness and brings strong speed-to-power capabilities to develop as a pass-rusher. Davis also has good overall makeup and was a team captain. -- Kevin Weidl



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4. KD Cannon, WR, Baylor
Grade: 68 | Watch Cannon's highlights

What he brings: Cannon, an underdeveloped route runner, faces a steep learning curve transitioning to the NFL. We like his toughness, quickness and top-end speed, though. He has the potential to develop into a productive slot receiver and contribute on special teams as a returner. -- Kevin Weidl



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5. Aviante Collins, OT, TCU
Grade: 60 | Watch Collins' highlights

What he brings: Collins is a left tackle prospect who lacks ideal bulk and inline power and is best fit for a zone blocking scheme. He needs to show more consistency with his play, but he has an athletic skill set to work with and could develop into a potential serviceable reserve who can add depth to an offensive line. -- Kevin Weidl



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6. Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia
Grade: 59 | Watch Orlosky's highlights

What he brings: Orlosky is a film junkie who has the intelligence and work ethic that is coveted at the position. He has average size and athleticism but makes up for it with excellent technique to go along with a quality feel for angles. Orlosky, who is a two-time captain, has the potential to develop into a serviceable starter for a heavy zone-blocking scheme. -- Kevin Weidl



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7. Jessamen Dunker, OT, Tennessee State
Grade: 58 | Watch Dunker's highlights

What he brings: Dunker lacks an elite anchor, but he is one more "twitchy" and athletic offensive lineman in this class with the potential to develop into a starting left tackle within a heavy zone scheme. However, he is comes with some risk because of character concerns (two arrests while at the University of Florida) and accountability concerns. -- Kevin Weidl



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8. Jon Toth, C, Kentucky
Grade: 58 | Watch Toth's highlights

What he brings: A team captain and four-year starter, Toth is an excellent hand fighter with good inline power. He also has the toughness and football IQ teams covet at center. He'll need to play with sound technique to mask his lack of ideal athleticism in pass protection. -- Steve Muench



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9. Jadar Johnson, S, Clemson
Grade: 57

What he brings: Johnson is a free safety prospect who possesses quality instincts and overall range as a center fielder. He also displays quality ball skills and the ability to finish when provided the opportunity. He comes with strong intangibles. -- Kevin Weidl



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10. Carroll Phillips, OLB, Illinois
Grade: 57

What he brings: Phillips is a versatile edge defender whose best fit will be as a 3-4 outside linebacker, where he brings upside as a pass-rusher because of his first step quickness and ability to bend the edge. He needs to continue to improve his instincts and develop stronger point of attack skills to become an every-down player. -- Kevin Weidl
 

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Kiper's Day 2 winners, question marks, reaches



So Day 2 of the 2017 NFL draft had some surprises, some reaches -- and some great picks. I'm surprised at some of the big names still available. Pass-rusher Carl Lawson is still out there. So are quarterbacks Nathan Peterman, Joshua Dobbs and Brad Kaaya.

Here are the teams I thought had strong second and third rounds, along with some moves provide that more questions than answers. I've also included notes on the biggest reaches so far -- my 295th player is off the board already. And, again, don't be alarmed if your team isn't mentioned. My draft grades for all 32 teams will be up tomorrow night.





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1. Baltimore Ravens



Baltimore got my No. 2 corner in the first round with Marlon Humphrey, and then it got my Nos. 3 and 6 outside linebackers on Day 2. Tyus Bowser (No. 47) and Tim Williams (No. 78) are perfect fits in the Ravens' 3-4 defense. Terrell Suggs will be 35 when the season starts, and the Ravens ranked 24th overall in sacks last season (31.0). I had outside linebacker as their top need, and they went out and got immediate help.
And the reason Baltimore is No. 1 here? They got my top-ranked defensive tackle in the third round (No. 74) in Chris Wormley, who is 36th on my board. He has tremendous size (6-foot-5, 298 pounds) and could be the replacement for Timmy Jernigan, who was traded to the Eagles. Wormley can rush the passer a little as well. This is a stellar draft for the Ravens so far, whose top four picks have all been on defense.

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2. Green Bay Packers
After moving out of Round 1, Green Bay stayed put at the top of the second round, taking cornerback Kevin King, a guy I thought would go in the 20s. He's a 6-foot-3, 200-pound, rangy defender who ran a 4.43 at the combine. At pick No. 61, the Packers got a value pick in Josh Jones, a big (6-1, 220) athletic safety who tackles like a linebacker and has cornerback-type speed (4.41 40 at the combine). He is my 38th-ranked prospect. The Packers finished their day by taking mammoth Montravius Adams (No. 93), a defensive tackle with first-round ability but inconsistent tape. If they can get him to play every down at his best, this could be a steal.


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3. Buffalo Bills
Yes, Buffalo had to trade up on both of their Day 2 picks, but the Bills got two of my favorite players in the entire class. I thought wide receiver Zay Jones (No. 37) might sneak into the first round. He's a versatile, smart pass-catcher who lit up the combine and Senior Bowl. Oh, and he had 158 catches last season, setting an FBS record. That's a win as a replacement for Robert Woods. At No. 63, they got a dominant, polished run-blocker in Dion Dawkins, who will likely move from tackle at Temple to guard in the NFL.
More moves I liked
  • The Bengals got two first-round talents in running back Joe Mixon (No. 48) and defensive end Jordan Willis (No. 73). Mixon's off-field issues are well known and awful, but he's one of the most talented backs in the class, an all-around threat who will help in the return game. Willis had 11.5 sacks last season.
  • I loved the Broncos' pick of DeMarcus Walker at No. 51. He is my 31st-ranked player. He's a 3-4 end in the Broncos' scheme, and he'll get after quarterbacks -- he had 16.0 sacks last season.
  • Dallas addressed its biggest need on Day 2, taking cornerbacks Chidobe Awuzie (No. 60) and Jourdan Lewis (No. 92). Awuzie is the best tackling corner in this draft and Lewis is one of the best true cover guys. Lewis dropped because of a misdemeanor charge of domestic violence, for which he pleaded not guilty last month.
  • Linebacker Zach Cunningham (No. 57) should be a Day 1 starter for the Texans. I thought he might sneak into the first round. Running back D'Onta Foreman is a bargain at No. 89. He's my fifth-ranked running back.
  • How about the Chargers taking two interior offensive linemen on Day 2? Forrest Lamp (No. 38) is the best guard in the class and an immediate starter. He could play center, too. Dan Feeney (No. 71) is my third-ranked guard.
  • Washington's defense got better on the first two days of the draft. Ryan Anderson is a value pick at No. 49, a complete outside linebacker who can hold up against the run. And cornerback Fabian Moreau (No. 81) dropped a little because of a torn pectoral muscle suffered at his pro day, but he had a great combine workout (4.35 40, 38-inch vertical).




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1. Los Angeles Rams
All three of the Rams' picks on Day 2 were reaches on my board, starting with tight end Gerald Everett at No. 44. In a deep tight end class, he is eighth on my board -- No. 111 overall -- and I ranked Adam Shaheen, Jake Butt, Cole Hikutini and Jordan Leggett all higher. I like the 6-3, 239-pound Everett as a player, but he's a pass-catcher only at this point, and his 4.62 40 at the combine didn't pop. He's not an inline blocker.

I had wide receiver and defensive back (along with offensive line) as bigger needs, and Los Angeles addressed those with their other two picks. But Cooper Kupp (No. 69) went a little high, and Chris Godwin and Josh Malone were both still on the board. Kupp should contribute immediately in a team that desperately needs pass-catchers, but Godwin has a higher ceiling. With John Johnson at No. 91, the Rams got a safety who didn't test well at the combine (4.61 40) and doesn't have ideal size (6-0, 208). I thought he'd be a Day 3 pick -- he is No. 143 on my board. He does have a knack for interceptions, with three last season and two more in the Senior Bowl.

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2. Cleveland Browns
I've said all along that DeShone Kizer should have stayed in school. He has a big-time arm, but he's light years away from being ready to play in the NFL. That's why taking him at No. 52 is a head-scratcher for the Browns. The fit just isn't there.
Do they expect him to play right away? I wrote on Thursday that I didn't begrudge them passing on Deshaun Watson at No. 12, but I didn't expect them to come after Kizer this high. He needs a year or two behind a veteran, and the Browns don't have that in Cody Kessler, who was decent when healthy last year and likely still will take the snaps in 2017. Maybe Hue Jackson thinks he can coach up Kizer in practice without throwing the young QB into the fire. Maybe Kizer's upside was to pass up. Either way, I had Nathan Peterman and Joshua Dobbs rated higher, and both were safer picks. Kizer could be a boom-or-bust guy. For Browns' fans sake, here's hoping it's the former.

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3. San Francisco 49ers
I thought the 49ers had the best Day 1 of any team, but taking quarterback C.J. Beathard at No. 104 was just plain confusing. I said it on the broadcast: I think he's a career backup. San Francisco took him in the third round over Peterman, Dobbs and Brad Kaaya. All three have higher upsides. Beathard is my 10th-ranked QB, and I even had Penn's Alek Torgersen rated higher. I wrote Thursday that the Niners should take a flier on a developmental QB in the middle rounds, but this is too high for Beathard. He was No. 243 overall on my board.
The quarterbacks now on the Niners' roster are: Beathard, Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley. Does that inspire confidence at the beginning of a long rebuild?

Biggest reaches based on my board
  • The Seahawks have their own style of defensive system, but safety Delano Hill was No. 295 on my board. Seattle took him at No. 95. Defensive tackle Nazair Jones went at 102, and he is No. 186 on my board.
  • Wide receiver Kenny Golladay is No. 277 on my board. The Lions took him at No. 96. He can track the ball and has some size (6-4, 218), but I don't see it in the third round.
  • Oakland is betting on a return to form for defensive tackle Eddie Vanderdoes, who looked like a first-round talent in 2015. Injuries derailed his career at UCLA. He is my No. 159 on my board, and the Raiders took him at No. 88.
  • I thought Texas A&M defensive end Daeshon Hall, who played on the other side of top pick Myles Garrett, would be a fourth- or fifth-round pick. The Panthers took him at No. 77.
  • Tight end Jonnu Smith went at No. 100 to the Titans, but Jake Butt, Cole Hikutini, Bucky Hodges, Eric Saubert were all still on the board. He is No. 164 on my board.
 
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