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[Amare's Right Hook]

"Thurman is the best athlete in Boxing "

Where do some of these people get this s-hit ?

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

"Thurman is the best athlete in Boxing "

Where do some of these people get this s-hit ?

Drunk ass Teddy

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Dog Walters looked like he was fighting a dude multiple divisions smaller than him with Marriaga plus he played those scale games. Breh was getting caught flush the first 6 rounds.

The crazy thing is Walters looked huge vs. Donaire and Marriaga...and in reality is probably more comparable to other 130 pound fighters in size. For awhile I have said he should be there, even saying I would love a Walters vs. in shape Mikey Garcia matchup.

Then I saw how Verdejo looked at 133 and they said he was going to try to make 130. I thought , he would be a fukking monster at 130.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

"Thurman is the best athlete in Boxing "

Where do some of these people get this s-hit ?

On another board I read GGG would KO RJJ !!!

 

[yoyoyo1]

RIP Price's career

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Jesus Christ is there a way I can neg that fat fukk Rafael through email or send him a bomb or something? Dude is obviously on TR and K2's payroll. shyt is sad.

 

[HARLEM AL]

He's Puerto Rican

 

[HARLEM AL]

Jesus Christ is there a way I can neg that fat fukk Rafael through email or send him a bomb or something? Dude is obviously on TR and K2's payroll. shyt is sad.

What he say now?

 

[Willy Waffle]

Dan say some of the most silliest shyt sometimes.

He thinks Sergio is a 1st ballot HOF and more deserving than Forrest I don't see how sergios resume is any better than vernons.

Vernon
Beat a Prime Mosley 2x (was p4p #1 for the 1st fight)
Vince Phillips, Baldomir and past prime Quartey aint that bad of a set of wins.
2 Division champ (147,154)

Sergio
Beat a Prime Punisher, Pavlik (Wasn't the same after Hopkins), Macklin, Murray and Chavez aint bad
Unified Champ at 160

 

[Ari Gold Bawse]

RIP Price's career

That knockout

I picked him in the prediction league

have you signed up for it yet?

 

[mr. smoke weed]

What he say now?

Breh read the chat and you'll be

Example he compared fukking Froch n Sergio lol called GGG the A side against ward etc.

 

[Mook]

Oscar De LA Hopkins y'all

http://www.thesweetscience.com/news...ard-hopkins-qyes-there-can-be-oversaturationq

BERNARD HOPKINS : YES, THERE CAN BE OVERSATURATION

Bernard Hopkins is one of my very favorite fighters ever. He’s also one of my least favorite interview subjects. I find him needlessly combative and achingly discursive. Moreover, he has a way of talking down to you as if you’ve never watched a prizefight in your life, and that’s something I haven’t encountered in any other professional prizefighter I’ve ever interviewed. Still, Hopkins does offer some good insight here and there, and such was the case last week.

Hopkins, a partner at Golden Boy Promotions since 2005, said he believes the current boxing TV landscape is oversaturated. Take that with a grain of salt, of course. That’s a term I’ve heard so much recently that I almost believe it to be a talking point agreed to and distributed via power point presentation to everyone who is a direct competitor to Al Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions series.

Still, when Hopkins speaks, I listen. “I think there can be too much junk—less action and fights that people don’t really care about. Yes, there can be oversaturation.” Hopkins said the key to making interesting and compelling matchups was simple: the best fighters fighting the best. Yes, that’s a bit of promoter speak but coming from Hopkins, a man who heedlessly trudged into the deepest waters during his long and successful boxing career, the words seem to carry a significant amount of weight.

“I believe people will watch anything that they like and that there’s suspense about. You only get those things when you match the fighters the way they need to be matched.”

To Hopkins’ eyes, the bread and butter of Golden Boy Promotions is matching fighters exactly that way. He pointed to the upcoming bout between Canelo Alvarez and Miguel Cotto as evidence of it, and said his employer sincerely wants to make the very best fights in boxing. “You can always tell when you put two guys together who are going to fight. Canelo-Cotto is a good fight. The way they fight and the way they are: This is going to go down, and that's the kind of fight we all want to see.”

Still, Hopkins and Golden Boy Promotions, along with the rest of the old guard in boxing, have been forced off of most TV stations thanks to Haymon’s PBC series. Golden Boy Promotions currently has a lawsuit pending against Haymon, as does Bob Arum’s Top Rank promotional company. Hopkins referred to PBC as “premier or whatever” and said he’d leave it to fans to decide whether it was a worthwhile venture. For his part, he would be focusing on making fights at Golden Boy. “We really need to do less talking and just show more good fights, and the fans and the reporters both the biased and the non-biased ones, will be able to say to themselves ‘you know what I got to take my hat off to them; they’re doing a good job.’”

Hopkins was happy with the work Golden Boy had done so far in 2015, but said the work had just begun. “But it’s only the honeymoon stages of doing what we’ve been saying we’re going to do for the last six or seven months. Now, we’re trying to get these fights to happen and we’re trying to get other promoters or advisors or whatever it is they call themselves [to do the same thing].”

Hopkins said Golden Boy was happy to work with anyone to make the best fights happen. He pointed to recent promotions with Top Rank and pending promotions with Roc Nation as evidence of Golden Boy’s willingness to make the best fights possible. “If we can make the fight, we will make the fight. We’re putting pressure on those who want to cherry-pick and want to get all of the revenue [without fighting the best].” Hopkins said the fighters of today, unlike those of the previous era, are more concerned about making money than securing their legacies. He said the previous era, led by himself, De La Hoya, Shane Mosley and Felix Trinidad, was better for the sport, and said part of his task at Golden Boy was leading young fighters to the right way for thinking. “If you’re the guy in the division and you aren’t fighting the guy in your division that everyone wants to see you fight….is it legacy over money or is it money over legacy? Some I don’t think care about legacy.” In Hopkins last fight, he was soundly defeated in a light heavyweight title unification fight by Sergey Kovalev. Hopkins, age 50, said younger fighters could learn much from his audacious attempt to usurp perhaps the scariest light heavyweight of the last 20 years. “I have no regrets. It’s in my DNA, man. Sugar Shane, Oscar, Trinidad and I were the last of a dying breed. Things have changed.” Hopkin said part of his role at Golden Boy was helping young fighters understand the importance of building a legacy. If you’ve ever had a chat with Hopkins, you know he’s the naturally pedantic sort who attempts to disperse his knowledge to anyone who will listen.

“You want to build your legacy. Money will come. The money will be there but then you will have the strength of both. If you aren’t wise with your money, the money will go and if you never had a legacy then nobody will even know you were ever there.”

He’s fit for his role. For all his subtle jabs and insults, Hopkins still doubles down on giving advice in every interview I’ve ever had with him. And fighters in the Golden Boy stable, for better or worse, have one of the greatest fighters ever in their corner, one who genuinely seems to have their best interests at heart. “I love helping fighters. If they’re in the Golden Boy family, I’m there.”


Same nikka that Its all about legacy N the best fighting the best...was happily cashing checks to fight Mario Kart N waving flags hyping up his fight against some euroasian trainerless nikka with 12 fights

Hows it not true? These dudes are fighting more bums. Sure we see them four times, but if only 1 of those four times is a good fight how will a casual know when its a good one?

 

[Newzz]

Dan Rafael chat wrap 7/17:

- This year is not even close to the best year of boxing ever.
- Remembers Froch as always being in shape and professional, fought the best and was willing to travel, confident in how great he was, and was a salty SOB.
- Will vote for Froch in the HOF.
- Thinks Mares vs. LSC is a 50/50 fight and doesn't know who to pick yet.
- If he was forced to watch one Rigo fight, it would be Rigo vs. Loma. He will believe the fight is made when he sees it.
- Matthysse and Postol are negotiating, no deal yet. 10/3 at StubHub is a possibility.
- Floyd says he is in training camp and will fight Sept. 12. Believes the opponent will be Berto.
- Would love to see Thurman vs. Maidana...but Maidana needs to get into shape.
- Salido vs. Martinez could be a FOTY candidate (has been a weak year so far for FOTY candidates).
- Andrade will not fight Mundine. Andrade's promoter says that Mundine backed out.
- Picking Quigg vs. Martinez.
- JCC should win. Reyes is smaller, slower, less powerful, and not very skilled. This is supposed to be a JCC layup.
- Does not know JCC purse, but assumes it is low seven figures.
- Wlad has improved over the years by learning to use his height more, tie up when necessary, and Steward instilled confidence that when he gets hit to be more determined.
- Showtime has said they will have bigger fights the second half of the year.
- Ward's camp told him they prefer to fight GGG before Kovalev. Ward would not go to LH and then move back down to fight GGG. The goal is to face GGG at a weight that needs to be negotiated (as well as the overall purse and split) , possibly as early as this fall. If all went well there, Ward would consider moving up to 175 after GGG and fighting Kovalev.
- He is very skeptical GGG vs. Ward actually gets made.
- Unlikely we see Danny Garcia vs. Provodnikov in the future.
- Frampton could make himself popular in the US. He is very good, has an interesting style, and a good personality.
- Does he think JCC will be at his best ever after being trained by Garcia? No.
- Most of the people writing in to the chat think JCC is a bum with no work ethic and hope he loses.
- Hopkins wants one more fight.
- Mosley has become a bit of a talker lately. Different than when he was in his prime and on top.
- Jean, Herrera and Benavidez are on the list for Crawford's next fight. Not sure Herrera's cut will be ready.
- Considers Vitali and Wlad among the best HW's ever, but they would not be that high on the list with the others nominated for best ever.
- Picking Abraham to beat Steiglitz.
- Canelo vs. Cotto might be finalized as early as today. Should be announced next week. The fight will take place in Vegas or MSG. It is not set in stone to be in Vegas. MSG has made a very good offer. GB and Roc Nation met yesterday in LA to talk with HBO on fight related stuff, discussing dates Nov. 7 or Nov. 21, and which venue.
- Better chance of an upset on Aug.1, Malignaggi or Mora? Mora.
- Still believes Floyd fights and tries to go 50-0.
- Probably puts Froch in his top 10 at 168. Others would be (no order): RJJ, Calzaghe, Toney, Eubank, Benn, and Ward.
- Does not believe Froch comes out of retirement. Thinks he is done for good.
- Sergio and Froch will be on the same HOF ballet...the two of them fighting would have been interesting. Froch's size and power vs. Sergio's speed and movement.
- Does not remember his scorecard for Mosley-Winky 2, but sure he had Winky winning.
- The ring for Thurman-Collazo was standard size, 20x20.
- Anthony Joshua is the biggest prospect in the HW division.
- Disagrees that Thurman is the best athlete in boxing.
- In regards to PBC and press releases, a PBC insider recently told him: "what do you think it is like to work in communications for a company that doesn't want to communicate?".
- Will not vote Toney into the HOF on the first ballet because he twice failed drug tests for steroids. He considers being a first ballot HOF an honor above being being voted in at a later date.
- Would vote Ivan Calderon as a first ballot HOF. Best little man he has seen outside of Ricardo Lopez.
- Possibility for Crawford vs. Pacquiao one day. Arum has talked about it.
- Would not vote Arthur Abraham into the HOF.
- Buy or sell, Adrian Broner starts to take his career seriously? Sell.
- JCC probably has been told not to take pictures of his fight checks and put them online again.
- Doesn't get Anthony Peterson's career. Outside of Rios it has all been low level fights, while Lamont's resume is battle tested.
- Believes the possibility for Rios vs. Brook being made is dead.
- Until Arum becomes involved in the Rigo vs. Loma negotiations and talk money is when the negotiations become something real.
- On paper Hyde may be Rigo's manager, but he has been told that Rigo won't even talk to him anymore and they have zero relationship.
- Believes Walters goes to 130, he is done at 126.
- Does not find it weird that GGG wants a catchweight vs. Ward. GGG is the A-side, so he gets to dictate some terms.
- Seth Mitchell retired.
- Arum made out great on selling JCC's contract to PBC. He no longer has to deal with the headache of JCC and is getting exposed in the ring.
- Nice to see Crolla coming back from his injuries, but picking Perez to beat him all day long.
- UniMas is airing Ramirez over a title fight because Ramirez plays to UniMas' core audience (Mexican American), rather than seeing a fighter from China and Argentina fight. He is being groomed for bigger and better things and Arum is pushing to have him on TV.
- HBO is planning on showing the Wlad vs. Fury fight.
- Doesn't think Mike Perez is shot, just never thought he was much to begin with.
- Quillin will fight Sept. 6 on CBS, opponent TBA.
- Best boxing book? Four kings.
- Loves watching Huck fight. Can punch and take a good punch. Always comes to fight.
- Thurman could make a good home arena out of Tampa. The crowd was good and the local reporters showed up.
- Believes we will see Thurman vs. Brook later this year.
- Imam's fight is another mismatch, easy work.
- Lamont Peterson probably fights in Sept/Oct at the Patriot Center.
- Gives Mohammedi a 5% chance to beat Kovalev.
- True or false, with 6 months of training Lennox Lewis could get back in the ring and beat Wilder? True.
- Shiming is recovering from a shoulder injury.
- Vernon Forrest is not a HOF'er.

@GzUpHoEzDwN



I told you breh in the other thread....Fat Dan just confirmed it

So ward would have to wait 2-3 fights to fight GGG?
But u going to say GGG is not elite and he don't have to wait 2-3 fights to fight him

Ward said he was fighting 2-3 tuneups before he even returned breh...not specifially for Kovalev

He has 1 down already, his 2nd will be around November-December. He could beat GGG in mid 2016 and beat Kovalev in late 2016......but by mid 2016, GGG is already gonna be beltless, because Canelo is gonna drain him down to 155.15 and beat him to unify the Middleweight Championship

GGG is gonna have to choose whether he wants to be drained down to 155.15 to lose his belt or if he wants to fight SOG at 168 by mid 2016. Either way, he's losing

The rns vs duva talks remind me a lot of the arum vs Floyd talks from way back then honestly, I won't believe anything until it signed.... But to tell u the truth if ward is willing to fight kovalev in 3 fights it does make sense cuz about that time it would be time to move up.

Kovalev already has fights planned out....that's what Kathy Duva is telling us. Kovalev wouldnt be ready to fight Ward until late 2016, so SOG can get another tuneup in, whoop up on GGG, and be ready for Kovalev by the time Kovalev is finally ready for him.

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/14318620/




Can I get my p's?

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

is the price KO vid out yet>?>?

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

i found it.. dAMMMMMN