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GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
After the Rigo fight, Nonito has been pure struggle. His heart hasn't been in it for awhile, he has continually said he enjoys his family time more. He moved up to 126, which was heavier than his peak. Fought Darchinyan and struggled mightily, was way behind on the scorecards until he caught him clean and Darchinyan is small at 126 too. Then fought Vetyeka and looked less than impressive in a cut shortened fight. Then got beat up by a huge 126 pounder in Walters.
Back down to his real weight class of 122 immediately after.
Breh, I don't think anyone thinks Walters got anywhere near a prime Donaire.
And I would go bragging about Marriaga's KO ratio yet. We need to see what it looks like against formidable competition. Diego Chavez came in with that high KO ratio and then when he has fought real fighters he hasn't hurt anybody (Thurman, Rios, Bradley).
mr heyzel
All Star
I hope not
Will other fighters follow Rigondeaux’s lead?
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By Robbie Bannatyne: Despite being regarded as by far the best boxer in the super-bantamweight division, Guillermo Rigondeaux has found the big fights very hard to come by. For Rigo the big names have become as elusive as the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
However, this is set to change with the announcement that Rigondeaux will move up to 126lb to meet current WBO featherweight champion Vasyl Lomachenko. Both men’s status as the two of the most decorated amateurs in the history of the sport adds more gravitas to an already engrossing prospect.
However, in a wider context, a contest between Rigo and Loma could be a catalyst for change in the boxing world.
For Rigondeaux is not the only fighter whose greatness has led to him being ostracized from his own division. Other Elephants in the room include Andre Ward, Gennady Golovkin and Sergey Kovalev. The aforementioned fighters have all earned the most ‘avoided fighter’ moniker in their respective divisions for being too dangerous and too risky a proposition for their peers.
Sadly a boxer being the victim of their own success is a familiar theme in the fight game- Rigondeaux’s predicament mirrors that of many other fighters in boxing.
However, if Rigondeaux is able overcome Lomachenko, other fighters may follow his lead. If it’s good enough for the goose its good enough for the gander. The likes of Andre Ward, ‘Canelo’ Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin would see the merits of moving up in weight to engage in some meaningful, money spinning super fights. Contests such as Ward vs Kovalev and Canelo vs Golovkin would excite the fans and enthuse the broadcasters. A winning combination.
More importantly, from a boxer’s perspective, big fights mean big money. The financial rewards on offer could offset the risks of fighting top competition on a consistent basis. Such a strategy would surely lead to more losses on a fighters resume, but in return they would gain legitimacy and build a legacy, in both sporting and financial terms. The cost of defeat against the elite would be worth paying if the fighters were properly compensated.
At the risk of sounding like a hopeless idealist, I dare to dream that the detritus left by the disgusting mismatches polluting the sport can become a forgotten relic if more fighters follow the lead of Rigondeaux.
Let’s hope that Rigondeaux becomes the new rule and not merely an exception.
Will other fighters follow Rigondeaux’s lead?
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However, this is set to change with the announcement that Rigondeaux will move up to 126lb to meet current WBO featherweight champion Vasyl Lomachenko. Both men’s status as the two of the most decorated amateurs in the history of the sport adds more gravitas to an already engrossing prospect.
However, in a wider context, a contest between Rigo and Loma could be a catalyst for change in the boxing world.
For Rigondeaux is not the only fighter whose greatness has led to him being ostracized from his own division. Other Elephants in the room include Andre Ward, Gennady Golovkin and Sergey Kovalev. The aforementioned fighters have all earned the most ‘avoided fighter’ moniker in their respective divisions for being too dangerous and too risky a proposition for their peers.
Sadly a boxer being the victim of their own success is a familiar theme in the fight game- Rigondeaux’s predicament mirrors that of many other fighters in boxing.
However, if Rigondeaux is able overcome Lomachenko, other fighters may follow his lead. If it’s good enough for the goose its good enough for the gander. The likes of Andre Ward, ‘Canelo’ Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin would see the merits of moving up in weight to engage in some meaningful, money spinning super fights. Contests such as Ward vs Kovalev and Canelo vs Golovkin would excite the fans and enthuse the broadcasters. A winning combination.
More importantly, from a boxer’s perspective, big fights mean big money. The financial rewards on offer could offset the risks of fighting top competition on a consistent basis. Such a strategy would surely lead to more losses on a fighters resume, but in return they would gain legitimacy and build a legacy, in both sporting and financial terms. The cost of defeat against the elite would be worth paying if the fighters were properly compensated.
At the risk of sounding like a hopeless idealist, I dare to dream that the detritus left by the disgusting mismatches polluting the sport can become a forgotten relic if more fighters follow the lead of Rigondeaux.
Let’s hope that Rigondeaux becomes the new rule and not merely an exception.
mr heyzel
All Star
The boy has check out he's going to lose 2mar
Chavez Jr. contemplating retirement
By Victor Salazar July 17, 2015 11:00
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The son of a legend looks to rebound after his knockout loss to Andrzej Fonfora. Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr, now under the tutelage of Robert Garcia and in the super-middleweight division, looks to make a run at 168.
“I took on a challenge that was tough. I fought somebody who was 175 pounds,” Chavez said on a media conference call. “I fought somebody after 13 months being inactive. There were a lot of things going on in my career, including the legal problems that I was going through at the same that I was trying to get ready for a fight. It was a tough challenge. Even though it was a defeat for me, I feel like I was a better fighter than him. But he was more prepared. I think that those were the factors. I plan to win this next fight.”
Chavez will face Marco Reyes, who isn’t exactly a super-middleweight from El Paso Texas on Showtime this Saturday night. But, Chavez feels 168 is where he should be, and he expects a fight from Reyes.
“I think 168 is a good weight class for me,” said Chavez, “Going into my last fight, I had an extended period of time off and I didn’t know how my body would respond. I feel more comfortable in the ring, and I feel like I have the right tools to win this fight on Saturday. Each fight you must prove something. You need to win and put on a good show. I think the fans will see a great fight on Saturday between two Mexican fighters. When I fight, I try to do my best in the ring.”
The big change will be Robert Garcia and for Chavez this is his third trainer in as many fights. But, he feels he has the right chemistry with Garcia.
“Training with Robert Garcia has been great. I have a great connection with him because he knows how fighters are feeling in the ring,” explained Chavez. “I am working more on my jab; I have changed a little bit of my style under Robert Garcia.”
Chavez says he has two more fights after this bout should he win. Should he lose, he will contemplate retirement.
“I’m not planning on losing. I’m planning on winning. When I fight at my weight, I can beat anybody,” Chavez said. “There’s nobody in boxing who can beat me when I fight at my weight. I feel right now that I’m at the best. I feel this is the best part of my career. And on [Saturday] I’m going to win. If I lost this fight, then it would make me think about retiring because this is not the type of rival that should beat me. The [other] type of rivals that I fought are much better and tougher than this rival.”
Chavez Jr. contemplating retirement
By Victor Salazar July 17, 2015 11:00
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“I took on a challenge that was tough. I fought somebody who was 175 pounds,” Chavez said on a media conference call. “I fought somebody after 13 months being inactive. There were a lot of things going on in my career, including the legal problems that I was going through at the same that I was trying to get ready for a fight. It was a tough challenge. Even though it was a defeat for me, I feel like I was a better fighter than him. But he was more prepared. I think that those were the factors. I plan to win this next fight.”
Chavez will face Marco Reyes, who isn’t exactly a super-middleweight from El Paso Texas on Showtime this Saturday night. But, Chavez feels 168 is where he should be, and he expects a fight from Reyes.
“I think 168 is a good weight class for me,” said Chavez, “Going into my last fight, I had an extended period of time off and I didn’t know how my body would respond. I feel more comfortable in the ring, and I feel like I have the right tools to win this fight on Saturday. Each fight you must prove something. You need to win and put on a good show. I think the fans will see a great fight on Saturday between two Mexican fighters. When I fight, I try to do my best in the ring.”
The big change will be Robert Garcia and for Chavez this is his third trainer in as many fights. But, he feels he has the right chemistry with Garcia.
“Training with Robert Garcia has been great. I have a great connection with him because he knows how fighters are feeling in the ring,” explained Chavez. “I am working more on my jab; I have changed a little bit of my style under Robert Garcia.”
Chavez says he has two more fights after this bout should he win. Should he lose, he will contemplate retirement.
“I’m not planning on losing. I’m planning on winning. When I fight at my weight, I can beat anybody,” Chavez said. “There’s nobody in boxing who can beat me when I fight at my weight. I feel right now that I’m at the best. I feel this is the best part of my career. And on [Saturday] I’m going to win. If I lost this fight, then it would make me think about retiring because this is not the type of rival that should beat me. The [other] type of rivals that I fought are much better and tougher than this rival.”
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
The boy has check out he's going to lose 2mar
Chavez Jr. contemplating retirement
By Victor Salazar July 17, 2015 11:00
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The son of a legend looks to rebound after his knockout loss to Andrzej Fonfora. Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr, now under the tutelage of Robert Garcia and in the super-middleweight division, looks to make a run at 168.
“I took on a challenge that was tough. I fought somebody who was 175 pounds,” Chavez said on a media conference call. “I fought somebody after 13 months being inactive. There were a lot of things going on in my career, including the legal problems that I was going through at the same that I was trying to get ready for a fight. It was a tough challenge. Even though it was a defeat for me, I feel like I was a better fighter than him. But he was more prepared. I think that those were the factors. I plan to win this next fight.”
Chavez will face Marco Reyes, who isn’t exactly a super-middleweight from El Paso Texas on Showtime this Saturday night. But, Chavez feels 168 is where he should be, and he expects a fight from Reyes.
“I think 168 is a good weight class for me,” said Chavez, “Going into my last fight, I had an extended period of time off and I didn’t know how my body would respond. I feel more comfortable in the ring, and I feel like I have the right tools to win this fight on Saturday. Each fight you must prove something. You need to win and put on a good show. I think the fans will see a great fight on Saturday between two Mexican fighters. When I fight, I try to do my best in the ring.”
The big change will be Robert Garcia and for Chavez this is his third trainer in as many fights. But, he feels he has the right chemistry with Garcia.
“Training with Robert Garcia has been great. I have a great connection with him because he knows how fighters are feeling in the ring,” explained Chavez. “I am working more on my jab; I have changed a little bit of my style under Robert Garcia.”
Chavez says he has two more fights after this bout should he win. Should he lose, he will contemplate retirement.
“I’m not planning on losing. I’m planning on winning. When I fight at my weight, I can beat anybody,” Chavez said. “There’s nobody in boxing who can beat me when I fight at my weight. I feel right now that I’m at the best. I feel this is the best part of my career. And on [Saturday] I’m going to win. If I lost this fight, then it would make me think about retiring because this is not the type of rival that should beat me. The [other] type of rivals that I fought are much better and tougher than this rival.”
Did you even read the article or jus the headline
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
After the Rigo fight, Nonito has been pure struggle. His heart hasn't been in it for awhile, he has continually said he enjoys his family time more. He moved up to 126, which was heavier than his peak. Fought Darchinyan and struggled mightily, was way behind on the scorecards until he caught him clean and Darchinyan is small at 126 too. Then fought Vetyeka and looked less than impressive in a cut shortened fight. Then got beat up by a huge 126 pounder in Walters.
Back down to his real weight class of 122 immediately after.
Breh, I don't think anyone thinks Walters got anywhere near a prime Donaire.
And I would go bragging about Marriaga's KO ratio yet. We need to see what it looks like against formidable competition. Diego Chavez came in with that high KO ratio and then when he has fought real fighters he hasn't hurt anybody (Thurman, Rios, Bradley).
donaire is way better than salido. even just a tad out of prime he still was better.
shyt i can see if walters was getting outboxed then got a lucky ko cause hes bigger. walters outboxed him then kayode him.
also broner kd porter n cotto ko geale.....all bigger opponents. so walters chin is good.
was grj resume really that great when he fought loma? was it really better than marriaga's? according to boxrec he had not faced a 3 star opponent yet.....same as marriaga.
but loma stans bragged all day about handling his speed. so why can't i say walters handled his power?
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
Oscar De LA Hopkins y'all 
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news...ard-hopkins-qyes-there-can-be-oversaturationq
BERNARD HOPKINS : YES, THERE CAN BE OVERSATURATION
Bernard Hopkins is one of my very favorite fighters ever. He’s also one of my least favorite interview subjects. I find him needlessly combative and achingly discursive. Moreover, he has a way of talking down to you as if you’ve never watched a prizefight in your life, and that’s something I haven’t encountered in any other professional prizefighter I’ve ever interviewed. Still, Hopkins does offer some good insight here and there, and such was the case last week.
Hopkins, a partner at Golden Boy Promotions since 2005, said he believes the current boxing TV landscape is oversaturated. Take that with a grain of salt, of course. That’s a term I’ve heard so much recently that I almost believe it to be a talking point agreed to and distributed via power point presentation to everyone who is a direct competitor to Al Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions series.
Still, when Hopkins speaks, I listen. “I think there can be too much junk—less action and fights that people don’t really care about. Yes, there can be oversaturation.” Hopkins said the key to making interesting and compelling matchups was simple: the best fighters fighting the best. Yes, that’s a bit of promoter speak but coming from Hopkins, a man who heedlessly trudged into the deepest waters during his long and successful boxing career, the words seem to carry a significant amount of weight.
“I believe people will watch anything that they like and that there’s suspense about. You only get those things when you match the fighters the way they need to be matched.”
To Hopkins’ eyes, the bread and butter of Golden Boy Promotions is matching fighters exactly that way. He pointed to the upcoming bout between Canelo Alvarez and Miguel Cotto as evidence of it, and said his employer sincerely wants to make the very best fights in boxing. “You can always tell when you put two guys together who are going to fight. Canelo-Cotto is a good fight. The way they fight and the way they are: This is going to go down, and that's the kind of fight we all want to see.”
Still, Hopkins and Golden Boy Promotions, along with the rest of the old guard in boxing, have been forced off of most TV stations thanks to Haymon’s PBC series. Golden Boy Promotions currently has a lawsuit pending against Haymon, as does Bob Arum’s Top Rank promotional company. Hopkins referred to PBC as “premier or whatever” and said he’d leave it to fans to decide whether it was a worthwhile venture. For his part, he would be focusing on making fights at Golden Boy. “We really need to do less talking and just show more good fights, and the fans and the reporters both the biased and the non-biased ones, will be able to say to themselves ‘you know what I got to take my hat off to them; they’re doing a good job.’”
Hopkins was happy with the work Golden Boy had done so far in 2015, but said the work had just begun. “But it’s only the honeymoon stages of doing what we’ve been saying we’re going to do for the last six or seven months. Now, we’re trying to get these fights to happen and we’re trying to get other promoters or advisors or whatever it is they call themselves [to do the same thing].”
Hopkins said Golden Boy was happy to work with anyone to make the best fights happen. He pointed to recent promotions with Top Rank and pending promotions with Roc Nation as evidence of Golden Boy’s willingness to make the best fights possible. “If we can make the fight, we will make the fight. We’re putting pressure on those who want to cherry-pick and want to get all of the revenue [without fighting the best].” Hopkins said the fighters of today, unlike those of the previous era, are more concerned about making money than securing their legacies. He said the previous era, led by himself, De La Hoya, Shane Mosley and Felix Trinidad, was better for the sport, and said part of his task at Golden Boy was leading young fighters to the right way for thinking. “If you’re the guy in the division and you aren’t fighting the guy in your division that everyone wants to see you fight….is it legacy over money or is it money over legacy? Some I don’t think care about legacy.” In Hopkins last fight, he was soundly defeated in a light heavyweight title unification fight by Sergey Kovalev. Hopkins, age 50, said younger fighters could learn much from his audacious attempt to usurp perhaps the scariest light heavyweight of the last 20 years. “I have no regrets. It’s in my DNA, man. Sugar Shane, Oscar, Trinidad and I were the last of a dying breed. Things have changed.” Hopkin said part of his role at Golden Boy was helping young fighters understand the importance of building a legacy. If you’ve ever had a chat with Hopkins, you know he’s the naturally pedantic sort who attempts to disperse his knowledge to anyone who will listen.
“You want to build your legacy. Money will come. The money will be there but then you will have the strength of both. If you aren’t wise with your money, the money will go and if you never had a legacy then nobody will even know you were ever there.”
He’s fit for his role. For all his subtle jabs and insults, Hopkins still doubles down on giving advice in every interview I’ve ever had with him. And fighters in the Golden Boy stable, for better or worse, have one of the greatest fighters ever in their corner, one who genuinely seems to have their best interests at heart. “I love helping fighters. If they’re in the Golden Boy family, I’m there.”
Same nikka that Its all about legacy N the best fighting the best...was happily cashing checks to fight Mario Kart N waving flags hyping up his fight against some euroasian trainerless nikka with 12 fights
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news...ard-hopkins-qyes-there-can-be-oversaturationq
BERNARD HOPKINS : YES, THERE CAN BE OVERSATURATION
Bernard Hopkins is one of my very favorite fighters ever. He’s also one of my least favorite interview subjects. I find him needlessly combative and achingly discursive. Moreover, he has a way of talking down to you as if you’ve never watched a prizefight in your life, and that’s something I haven’t encountered in any other professional prizefighter I’ve ever interviewed. Still, Hopkins does offer some good insight here and there, and such was the case last week.
Hopkins, a partner at Golden Boy Promotions since 2005, said he believes the current boxing TV landscape is oversaturated. Take that with a grain of salt, of course. That’s a term I’ve heard so much recently that I almost believe it to be a talking point agreed to and distributed via power point presentation to everyone who is a direct competitor to Al Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions series.
Still, when Hopkins speaks, I listen. “I think there can be too much junk—less action and fights that people don’t really care about. Yes, there can be oversaturation.” Hopkins said the key to making interesting and compelling matchups was simple: the best fighters fighting the best. Yes, that’s a bit of promoter speak but coming from Hopkins, a man who heedlessly trudged into the deepest waters during his long and successful boxing career, the words seem to carry a significant amount of weight.
“I believe people will watch anything that they like and that there’s suspense about. You only get those things when you match the fighters the way they need to be matched.”
To Hopkins’ eyes, the bread and butter of Golden Boy Promotions is matching fighters exactly that way. He pointed to the upcoming bout between Canelo Alvarez and Miguel Cotto as evidence of it, and said his employer sincerely wants to make the very best fights in boxing. “You can always tell when you put two guys together who are going to fight. Canelo-Cotto is a good fight. The way they fight and the way they are: This is going to go down, and that's the kind of fight we all want to see.”
Still, Hopkins and Golden Boy Promotions, along with the rest of the old guard in boxing, have been forced off of most TV stations thanks to Haymon’s PBC series. Golden Boy Promotions currently has a lawsuit pending against Haymon, as does Bob Arum’s Top Rank promotional company. Hopkins referred to PBC as “premier or whatever” and said he’d leave it to fans to decide whether it was a worthwhile venture. For his part, he would be focusing on making fights at Golden Boy. “We really need to do less talking and just show more good fights, and the fans and the reporters both the biased and the non-biased ones, will be able to say to themselves ‘you know what I got to take my hat off to them; they’re doing a good job.’”
Hopkins was happy with the work Golden Boy had done so far in 2015, but said the work had just begun. “But it’s only the honeymoon stages of doing what we’ve been saying we’re going to do for the last six or seven months. Now, we’re trying to get these fights to happen and we’re trying to get other promoters or advisors or whatever it is they call themselves [to do the same thing].”
Hopkins said Golden Boy was happy to work with anyone to make the best fights happen. He pointed to recent promotions with Top Rank and pending promotions with Roc Nation as evidence of Golden Boy’s willingness to make the best fights possible. “If we can make the fight, we will make the fight. We’re putting pressure on those who want to cherry-pick and want to get all of the revenue [without fighting the best].” Hopkins said the fighters of today, unlike those of the previous era, are more concerned about making money than securing their legacies. He said the previous era, led by himself, De La Hoya, Shane Mosley and Felix Trinidad, was better for the sport, and said part of his task at Golden Boy was leading young fighters to the right way for thinking. “If you’re the guy in the division and you aren’t fighting the guy in your division that everyone wants to see you fight….is it legacy over money or is it money over legacy? Some I don’t think care about legacy.” In Hopkins last fight, he was soundly defeated in a light heavyweight title unification fight by Sergey Kovalev. Hopkins, age 50, said younger fighters could learn much from his audacious attempt to usurp perhaps the scariest light heavyweight of the last 20 years. “I have no regrets. It’s in my DNA, man. Sugar Shane, Oscar, Trinidad and I were the last of a dying breed. Things have changed.” Hopkin said part of his role at Golden Boy was helping young fighters understand the importance of building a legacy. If you’ve ever had a chat with Hopkins, you know he’s the naturally pedantic sort who attempts to disperse his knowledge to anyone who will listen.
“You want to build your legacy. Money will come. The money will be there but then you will have the strength of both. If you aren’t wise with your money, the money will go and if you never had a legacy then nobody will even know you were ever there.”
He’s fit for his role. For all his subtle jabs and insults, Hopkins still doubles down on giving advice in every interview I’ve ever had with him. And fighters in the Golden Boy stable, for better or worse, have one of the greatest fighters ever in their corner, one who genuinely seems to have their best interests at heart. “I love helping fighters. If they’re in the Golden Boy family, I’m there.”
Same nikka that Its all about legacy N the best fighting the best...was happily cashing checks to fight Mario Kart N waving flags hyping up his fight against some euroasian trainerless nikka with 12 fights
Amare's Right Hook
Southeast World Champion
Breh he still hasn't fought that tall dude from my local Kia dealership yet, don't have him jumping up in class that quickly.
Is top contender the new slang for 'the dude who works the night shift at dennys at boxes every leap year"
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Walters is a good fighter, I don't think anyone would deny that. Loma vs. Walters would be a great fight, I don't think anyone will deny that.
Loma is a tough one because he immediately went straight into fighting guys most fighters due in their prime and he did it after one fight from turning pro. Salido gave Loma a lesson on what it is like to fight in a pro fight vs. amateur fight. I think most would agree that if the fight took place now, Loma would win convincingly. Loma was so seasoned as a amateur he didn't want that build up and it cost him. Also though, matching Loma against build up opponents would have been worthless because Loma would have won those easily. He should have been fighting more talented guys than what is normal, but Salido was maybe just too "veteran".
The GRJ win was a good win, but not without flaws. He definitely was seen as having the potential to be a top player at 126, but he had been criticized for not moving his own career along fast enough. GRJ's strengths were supposed to be his boxing ability and speed and Loma completely negated that and dominated.
For most Marriaga was deemed as a good opponent, but his true quality is probably up in the air. He himself hadn't had a real fighter list to know what his true value was. And sometimes KO% isn't always the best judge of power. Many fighters say Arthur Abraham is the hardest puncher they have faced, but his KO% wouldn't tell you that. Like my Diego Chavez example sometimes guys have KO power against lesser opponents, but when you face top competition (and Walters is top competition) your power isn't the same. Maybe it is legit too. I think Walters takes a decent punch. Donaire hurt him, but there is no doubt Donaire can crack - even though Donaire has a similar KO% to Abraham.
It sounds like Walters is more likely to move up to 130, I have long said Walters looked big at 126. I kind of think the size difference between Rigo vs. Loma and Loma vs. Walters is the same. Both fights one fighter will be reasonably bigger than the other. From my standpoint I prefer to see Rigo vs. Loma, because you have two of the greatest amateur fighters ever and from a technical skill standpoint they are 2 of the most skillfully talented fighters in boxing (along with Mayweather and Ward).
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Dan Rafael chat wrap 7/17:
- This year is not even close to the best year of boxing ever.
- Remembers Froch as always being in shape and professional, fought the best and was willing to travel, confident in how great he was, and was a salty SOB.
- Will vote for Froch in the HOF.
- Thinks Mares vs. LSC is a 50/50 fight and doesn't know who to pick yet.
- If he was forced to watch one Rigo fight, it would be Rigo vs. Loma. He will believe the fight is made when he sees it.
- Matthysse and Postol are negotiating, no deal yet. 10/3 at StubHub is a possibility.
- Floyd says he is in training camp and will fight Sept. 12. Believes the opponent will be Berto.
- Would love to see Thurman vs. Maidana...but Maidana needs to get into shape.
- Salido vs. Martinez could be a FOTY candidate (has been a weak year so far for FOTY candidates).
- Andrade will not fight Mundine. Andrade's promoter says that Mundine backed out.
- Picking Quigg vs. Martinez.
- JCC should win. Reyes is smaller, slower, less powerful, and not very skilled. This is supposed to be a JCC layup.
- Does not know JCC purse, but assumes it is low seven figures.
- Wlad has improved over the years by learning to use his height more, tie up when necessary, and Steward instilled confidence that when he gets hit to be more determined.
- Showtime has said they will have bigger fights the second half of the year.
- Ward's camp told him they prefer to fight GGG before Kovalev. Ward would not go to LH and then move back down to fight GGG. The goal is to face GGG at a weight that needs to be negotiated (as well as the overall purse and split) , possibly as early as this fall. If all went well there, Ward would consider moving up to 175 after GGG and fighting Kovalev.
- He is very skeptical GGG vs. Ward actually gets made.
- Unlikely we see Danny Garcia vs. Provodnikov in the future.
- Frampton could make himself popular in the US. He is very good, has an interesting style, and a good personality.
- Does he think JCC will be at his best ever after being trained by Garcia? No.
- Most of the people writing in to the chat think JCC is a bum with no work ethic and hope he loses.
- Hopkins wants one more fight.
- Mosley has become a bit of a talker lately. Different than when he was in his prime and on top.
- Jean, Herrera and Benavidez are on the list for Crawford's next fight. Not sure Herrera's cut will be ready.
- Considers Vitali and Wlad among the best HW's ever, but they would not be that high on the list with the others nominated for best ever.
- Picking Abraham to beat Steiglitz.
- Canelo vs. Cotto might be finalized as early as today. Should be announced next week. The fight will take place in Vegas or MSG. It is not set in stone to be in Vegas. MSG has made a very good offer. GB and Roc Nation met yesterday in LA to talk with HBO on fight related stuff, discussing dates Nov. 7 or Nov. 21, and which venue.
- Better chance of an upset on Aug.1, Malignaggi or Mora? Mora.
- Still believes Floyd fights and tries to go 50-0.
- Probably puts Froch in his top 10 at 168. Others would be (no order): RJJ, Calzaghe, Toney, Eubank, Benn, and Ward.
- Does not believe Froch comes out of retirement. Thinks he is done for good.
- Sergio and Froch will be on the same HOF ballet...the two of them fighting would have been interesting. Froch's size and power vs. Sergio's speed and movement.
- Does not remember his scorecard for Mosley-Winky 2, but sure he had Winky winning.
- The ring for Thurman-Collazo was standard size, 20x20.
- Anthony Joshua is the biggest prospect in the HW division.
- Disagrees that Thurman is the best athlete in boxing.
- In regards to PBC and press releases, a PBC insider recently told him: "what do you think it is like to work in communications for a company that doesn't want to communicate?".
- Will not vote Toney into the HOF on the first ballet because he twice failed drug tests for steroids. He considers being a first ballot HOF an honor above being being voted in at a later date.
- Would vote Ivan Calderon as a first ballot HOF. Best little man he has seen outside of Ricardo Lopez.
- Possibility for Crawford vs. Pacquiao one day. Arum has talked about it.
- Would not vote Arthur Abraham into the HOF.
- Buy or sell, Adrian Broner starts to take his career seriously? Sell.
- JCC probably has been told not to take pictures of his fight checks and put them online again.
- Doesn't get Anthony Peterson's career. Outside of Rios it has all been low level fights, while Lamont's resume is battle tested.
- Believes the possibility for Rios vs. Brook being made is dead.
- Until Arum becomes involved in the Rigo vs. Loma negotiations and talk money is when the negotiations become something real.
- On paper Hyde may be Rigo's manager, but he has been told that Rigo won't even talk to him anymore and they have zero relationship.
- Believes Walters goes to 130, he is done at 126.
- Does not find it weird that GGG wants a catchweight vs. Ward. GGG is the A-side, so he gets to dictate some terms.
- Seth Mitchell retired.
- Arum made out great on selling JCC's contract to PBC. He no longer has to deal with the headache of JCC and is getting exposed in the ring.
- Nice to see Crolla coming back from his injuries, but picking Perez to beat him all day long.
- UniMas is airing Ramirez over a title fight because Ramirez plays to UniMas' core audience (Mexican American), rather than seeing a fighter from China and Argentina fight. He is being groomed for bigger and better things and Arum is pushing to have him on TV.
- HBO is planning on showing the Wlad vs. Fury fight.
- Doesn't think Mike Perez is shot, just never thought he was much to begin with.
- Quillin will fight Sept. 6 on CBS, opponent TBA.
- Best boxing book? Four kings.
- Loves watching Huck fight. Can punch and take a good punch. Always comes to fight.
- Thurman could make a good home arena out of Tampa. The crowd was good and the local reporters showed up.
- Believes we will see Thurman vs. Brook later this year.
- Imam's fight is another mismatch, easy work.
- Lamont Peterson probably fights in Sept/Oct at the Patriot Center.
- Gives Mohammedi a 5% chance to beat Kovalev.
- True or false, with 6 months of training Lennox Lewis could get back in the ring and beat Wilder? True.
- Shiming is recovering from a shoulder injury.
- Vernon Forrest is not a HOF'er.
- This year is not even close to the best year of boxing ever.
- Remembers Froch as always being in shape and professional, fought the best and was willing to travel, confident in how great he was, and was a salty SOB.
- Will vote for Froch in the HOF.
- Thinks Mares vs. LSC is a 50/50 fight and doesn't know who to pick yet.
- If he was forced to watch one Rigo fight, it would be Rigo vs. Loma. He will believe the fight is made when he sees it.
- Matthysse and Postol are negotiating, no deal yet. 10/3 at StubHub is a possibility.
- Floyd says he is in training camp and will fight Sept. 12. Believes the opponent will be Berto.
- Would love to see Thurman vs. Maidana...but Maidana needs to get into shape.
- Salido vs. Martinez could be a FOTY candidate (has been a weak year so far for FOTY candidates).
- Andrade will not fight Mundine. Andrade's promoter says that Mundine backed out.
- Picking Quigg vs. Martinez.
- JCC should win. Reyes is smaller, slower, less powerful, and not very skilled. This is supposed to be a JCC layup.
- Does not know JCC purse, but assumes it is low seven figures.
- Wlad has improved over the years by learning to use his height more, tie up when necessary, and Steward instilled confidence that when he gets hit to be more determined.
- Showtime has said they will have bigger fights the second half of the year.
- Ward's camp told him they prefer to fight GGG before Kovalev. Ward would not go to LH and then move back down to fight GGG. The goal is to face GGG at a weight that needs to be negotiated (as well as the overall purse and split) , possibly as early as this fall. If all went well there, Ward would consider moving up to 175 after GGG and fighting Kovalev.
- He is very skeptical GGG vs. Ward actually gets made.
- Unlikely we see Danny Garcia vs. Provodnikov in the future.
- Frampton could make himself popular in the US. He is very good, has an interesting style, and a good personality.
- Does he think JCC will be at his best ever after being trained by Garcia? No.
- Most of the people writing in to the chat think JCC is a bum with no work ethic and hope he loses.
- Hopkins wants one more fight.
- Mosley has become a bit of a talker lately. Different than when he was in his prime and on top.
- Jean, Herrera and Benavidez are on the list for Crawford's next fight. Not sure Herrera's cut will be ready.
- Considers Vitali and Wlad among the best HW's ever, but they would not be that high on the list with the others nominated for best ever.
- Picking Abraham to beat Steiglitz.
- Canelo vs. Cotto might be finalized as early as today. Should be announced next week. The fight will take place in Vegas or MSG. It is not set in stone to be in Vegas. MSG has made a very good offer. GB and Roc Nation met yesterday in LA to talk with HBO on fight related stuff, discussing dates Nov. 7 or Nov. 21, and which venue.
- Better chance of an upset on Aug.1, Malignaggi or Mora? Mora.
- Still believes Floyd fights and tries to go 50-0.
- Probably puts Froch in his top 10 at 168. Others would be (no order): RJJ, Calzaghe, Toney, Eubank, Benn, and Ward.
- Does not believe Froch comes out of retirement. Thinks he is done for good.
- Sergio and Froch will be on the same HOF ballet...the two of them fighting would have been interesting. Froch's size and power vs. Sergio's speed and movement.
- Does not remember his scorecard for Mosley-Winky 2, but sure he had Winky winning.
- The ring for Thurman-Collazo was standard size, 20x20.
- Anthony Joshua is the biggest prospect in the HW division.
- Disagrees that Thurman is the best athlete in boxing.
- In regards to PBC and press releases, a PBC insider recently told him: "what do you think it is like to work in communications for a company that doesn't want to communicate?".
- Will not vote Toney into the HOF on the first ballet because he twice failed drug tests for steroids. He considers being a first ballot HOF an honor above being being voted in at a later date.
- Would vote Ivan Calderon as a first ballot HOF. Best little man he has seen outside of Ricardo Lopez.
- Possibility for Crawford vs. Pacquiao one day. Arum has talked about it.
- Would not vote Arthur Abraham into the HOF.
- Buy or sell, Adrian Broner starts to take his career seriously? Sell.
- JCC probably has been told not to take pictures of his fight checks and put them online again.
- Doesn't get Anthony Peterson's career. Outside of Rios it has all been low level fights, while Lamont's resume is battle tested.
- Believes the possibility for Rios vs. Brook being made is dead.
- Until Arum becomes involved in the Rigo vs. Loma negotiations and talk money is when the negotiations become something real.
- On paper Hyde may be Rigo's manager, but he has been told that Rigo won't even talk to him anymore and they have zero relationship.
- Believes Walters goes to 130, he is done at 126.
- Does not find it weird that GGG wants a catchweight vs. Ward. GGG is the A-side, so he gets to dictate some terms.
- Seth Mitchell retired.
- Arum made out great on selling JCC's contract to PBC. He no longer has to deal with the headache of JCC and is getting exposed in the ring.
- Nice to see Crolla coming back from his injuries, but picking Perez to beat him all day long.
- UniMas is airing Ramirez over a title fight because Ramirez plays to UniMas' core audience (Mexican American), rather than seeing a fighter from China and Argentina fight. He is being groomed for bigger and better things and Arum is pushing to have him on TV.
- HBO is planning on showing the Wlad vs. Fury fight.
- Doesn't think Mike Perez is shot, just never thought he was much to begin with.
- Quillin will fight Sept. 6 on CBS, opponent TBA.
- Best boxing book? Four kings.
- Loves watching Huck fight. Can punch and take a good punch. Always comes to fight.
- Thurman could make a good home arena out of Tampa. The crowd was good and the local reporters showed up.
- Believes we will see Thurman vs. Brook later this year.
- Imam's fight is another mismatch, easy work.
- Lamont Peterson probably fights in Sept/Oct at the Patriot Center.
- Gives Mohammedi a 5% chance to beat Kovalev.
- True or false, with 6 months of training Lennox Lewis could get back in the ring and beat Wilder? True.
- Shiming is recovering from a shoulder injury.
- Vernon Forrest is not a HOF'er.
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Dog Walters looked like he was fighting a dude multiple divisions smaller than him with Marriaga plus he played those scale games. Breh was getting caught flush the first 6 rounds.