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The Official Black Conservatism Thread
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Breh, Cuba is still a developing country that suffered from centuries of colonial rule and then U.S. neocolonialism and dictatorship... then a U.S. embargo and undying efforts to undermine the Cuban government. Problems aren't solved overnight under those conditions. And Cuba is still part of a deeply racist world.Nonetheless, Afro-Cubans made important gains after the Cuban Revolution, with official government acknowledgement that racism was an issue and policies that improved the literacy and life expectancy rates of Afro-Cubans.
It seems these sources are decent, haven't read through them fully though.
Revolutionary Racism in Cuba
Owning the Revolution: Race, Revolution, and Politics from Havana to Miami, 1959–1963
Naw, things are still fukked up for Afro Cubans:
“The problem is not the embargo or the U.S. government. The problem is the system in Cuba that does not work,” said Berta Soler, leader of the Ladies in White dissident group. “There is no benefit for the Cuban people in this deal, only for the government.”
For decades, Cuban officials resisted talk about racism on the island, saying that such a debate could weaken “the nation’s unity” and undermine the revolution. But economic reforms pushed by Cuban leader Raúl Castro have laid bare vast racial inequities. Now, the government has signaled that it’s acceptable to talk about race and has even initiated some of the conversations.
Cuban economic reforms spur talk of race
Why the fukk what you wanna be a CONSERVative as a black man in America.
What the fukk do you want to conserve
What the fukk do you want to conserve
Why the fukk what you wanna be a CONSERVative as a black man in America.
What the fukk do you want to conserve
We can start with a strong black nuclear family with the FATHER as head of household....
That has nothing to do with conservatism
You realize the "nuclear family" you speak of is a relatively new idea I'm human history, especially black people in America?
That can be done in liberal, socialist or conservative economic economic climate
Im not talking about human history Im talking about within the context of America....Of course slavery prevented the black nuclear family from being a true unit but still, black folk within the context of slavery formed nuclear families based on kinfolk. Once slavery ended black folk settle into nuclear families. It wasnt until the '60s that the black nuclear family started to deteriorate as evidence by the Moyinhan report
The state is the father in a socialist economic environment
Nah brah. Not at all actually. Maybe in Marxist-Leninist theories but practically every left Marxist ideology believes in the internalization of the state in each person. Thats why its a dictator of the proletariat.
Democracy and liberty-equality is essential. In stead of the state guaranteeing those rights to your neighbor, your guarantee them onto yourself
What's funny is the Moynihan report was a decidedly liberal paper. It blamed gov. policy for the state of black pekoe in America and called for change.
But even with that said. "The nuclear black family" has never existed in any real capacity America. "Out of wedlock" rate aside, the black family is doing better now than as it has in the past.
So, once again, what the hell are you trying to conserve?
I don't think patriarchy goes hand in hand with liberalism and especially socialism
I don't think patriarchy goes hand in hand with liberalism and especially socialism
Strong family unit doesn't mean patriarchy, I should clarify that
We don't need conservatism to do that, or anything for that matter.
Conservatism can't even provide for down and out whites, which is why they have abandoned it for Trump. What makes you think it would work any better for us, in the context of conservatism/Dixiecrat explicit hatred for blacks?
Only way we will get ahead is to do for self and not try to hitch our ideological wagon onto other movements... especially movements that have explicitly worked to marginalize us
"father" must be the 'head of household''?
"father" must be the 'head of household''?
