MenacingMonk
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I bet we gotta wait til 2020 for season 5. 
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I mostly agree with this except for one point.
I actually think there's a lot of material for Saul during the "BB" years. He was basically a plot device during "BB" and was only ever seen in relation to Walt and Jesse. We know next to nothing about his private life....never even seen his home.
Not to mention there is flashes of Jimmy even during "BB". He tried giving Jesse relationship advice about Andrea. Wanted to break off his business with Walt, when he found out they poisoned Brock. Which would've potentially cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars. On the season 5 Blu-Ray there's a short called "Chicks & Guns", the gun Jesse had when Walt came to drop off his money was actually given to him by Saul, who was worried about him.
So I think the character has enough depth that a few scenes from "BB" could be interesting.
I never said Gus met Saul. But Gus obviously knows who Saul is, if he requested Mike watch him. Saul would have to move up the food chain quite a bit to be on Gus's radar.
Saul and Lalo kinda have to meet, or at the very least be in each other's orbit. Saul mentions Lalo by name in season 2 of "BB".
Fred.
Francis White
i been away to long, my feeling died.
So this never happened? Gus is stupid nor is Saul, he would figure things out eventually.
To be fair I think he meant they never met as who they really are.
Gus knows something is up with Jimmy in that scene but he's not yet Saul....and Jimmy obviously has no idea he's talking to a drug lord.
Fred.
i forgot about that scene. But there’s not enough info there for Saul to figure anything out.
I bet we gotta wait til 2020 for season 5.
Nah, it should be roughly the same time 2019. The reason the break between season 3 and 4 was so long was because AMC changed presidents so it took a long ass time to work all the business out.
Fred.
I never said mention that Gus did not KNOW Saul. I said that Saul never met Gus. I wouldn't count the whole manager thing to even count. Saul did not know who he was outside someone who manages the fast food joint. But when I say meeting GUS... not just some random front by Gus. masking to his management role. Nor would it be relevant to anything Breaking Bad related.
ColiBomaye
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Pretty good finale. Maybe not the best or the most climatic, but I'll expand on that later on.
The opening was both heart-warming and heart-wrenching. It's rare to see a feel-good moment in this series, and of course when it's utilized, it only adds to the tragedy of the McGill brothers.
The resolution of the Werner subplot was expected, but still good nevertheless. Cinematography was outstanding. Really sad to see him go out like that and Mike being the one to (reluctantly) do it, but he brought it on himself. Dude is the textbook example of being naive to how the real world operates.
Speaking of the real world, I loved how this episode explored the "winner take all" mentality that Jimmy has chosen to adopt. Throughout the series, we've seen Jimmy try to "break good" and prove his brother (and by extension, society) wrong. The scene with the potential scholarship recipients was his moment of clarity, so to speak.
Jimmy finally realizes that no matter how much he atones for his mistakes, he will forever be marked. So in response, he goes up to the shoplifter girl and gives her (and by extension, himself) a speech on how the game works.
No matter how hard you try to change, people will always associate you with the past you try to move on from. If society won't let you get it, then the only option is to take it, by any means necessary. It's a grimy way to live, but the "Win by any means necessary" mindset really resonated with me.
We finally got to see what Lalo was made of. When he rammed the car to get out of the parking gate, that's when I knew he was psychotic just like the rest of the Salamanca clan. Dude reminds me of a Mexican version of Trevor from GTA with his happy go lucky craziness
. Not sure how I feel about his roof trick though. It happened a little too quick for me to fully suspend my disbelief.
The only real "gripe" I had towards the finale was the closing scene. I think one of BCS' few flaws is how the show moves at such a slow pace. It's really weird how this show seems to "pump-fake" pulling the trigger on character growth. I know that people in real life don't go directly from good to bad, but I don't care for how the show tends to retread the whole Kim/Jimmy relationship decay.
This was especially noticeable in the closing scene where Kim is flabbergasted by Jimmy's con. At this point, shouldn't she know that Jimmy has no feeling towards Chuck's death and will put up a front to get ahead? She was even the one who helped him with that scheme, so it doesn't make sense for her to be
when Jimmy brags about fooling the judges. I really hope Season 5 picks up the pace without treading water like they did this go round.
I don't wanna end my post coming across as a hater, so I'll just mention that the acting was spectacular all around and at the very least carried some of the plot's weak points. Better Call Saul is at its best when viewed as a character drama, so it's a shame that they have to navigate exploring these characters AND filling in the blanks of the Breaking Bad universe at the same time.
The opening was both heart-warming and heart-wrenching. It's rare to see a feel-good moment in this series, and of course when it's utilized, it only adds to the tragedy of the McGill brothers.
The resolution of the Werner subplot was expected, but still good nevertheless. Cinematography was outstanding. Really sad to see him go out like that and Mike being the one to (reluctantly) do it, but he brought it on himself. Dude is the textbook example of being naive to how the real world operates.
Speaking of the real world, I loved how this episode explored the "winner take all" mentality that Jimmy has chosen to adopt. Throughout the series, we've seen Jimmy try to "break good" and prove his brother (and by extension, society) wrong. The scene with the potential scholarship recipients was his moment of clarity, so to speak.
Jimmy finally realizes that no matter how much he atones for his mistakes, he will forever be marked. So in response, he goes up to the shoplifter girl and gives her (and by extension, himself) a speech on how the game works.
No matter how hard you try to change, people will always associate you with the past you try to move on from. If society won't let you get it, then the only option is to take it, by any means necessary. It's a grimy way to live, but the "Win by any means necessary" mindset really resonated with me.
We finally got to see what Lalo was made of. When he rammed the car to get out of the parking gate, that's when I knew he was psychotic just like the rest of the Salamanca clan. Dude reminds me of a Mexican version of Trevor from GTA with his happy go lucky craziness
. Not sure how I feel about his roof trick though. It happened a little too quick for me to fully suspend my disbelief.The only real "gripe" I had towards the finale was the closing scene. I think one of BCS' few flaws is how the show moves at such a slow pace. It's really weird how this show seems to "pump-fake" pulling the trigger on character growth. I know that people in real life don't go directly from good to bad, but I don't care for how the show tends to retread the whole Kim/Jimmy relationship decay.
This was especially noticeable in the closing scene where Kim is flabbergasted by Jimmy's con. At this point, shouldn't she know that Jimmy has no feeling towards Chuck's death and will put up a front to get ahead? She was even the one who helped him with that scheme, so it doesn't make sense for her to be
when Jimmy brags about fooling the judges. I really hope Season 5 picks up the pace without treading water like they did this go round.I don't wanna end my post coming across as a hater, so I'll just mention that the acting was spectacular all around and at the very least carried some of the plot's weak points. Better Call Saul is at its best when viewed as a character drama, so it's a shame that they have to navigate exploring these characters AND filling in the blanks of the Breaking Bad universe at the same time.
IDK why I thought Gus would let ole boy live. He was weak as hell. He couldn't wait to see his fukkin wife
Problem I see with the future of Better call saul is how many seasons does Mike have where he can walk around and do sh1t? My man looks older than Hector.
Problem I see with the future of Better call saul is how many seasons does Mike have where he can walk around and do sh1t? My man looks older than Hector.
IDK why I thought Gus would let ole boy live. He was weak as hell. He couldn't wait to see his fukkin wife
Problem I see with the future of Better call saul is how many seasons does Mike have where he can walk around and do sh1t? My man looks older than Hector.
Gus might of let him live but once lalo had his information he had no choice
The War Report
NewNewYork
Kim's look of devastation. 
I just realized that Lalo fits in a huge role. When the giant battle is going on between Gus and the cartel in BB, who is mastermining that? Hector can't put in work, Tuco ain't bright enough, the cousins are just muscle. Lalo was the guy behind the curtain the whole time.
I was disappointed in Mike. That was one of the coldest killings in the entire BB/BCS universe so far....the only ones I can remember that were worse was killing the kid after the train heist and when Todd kills Jesse's girl. Mike's an old dude, I don't see how he rationalizes that even to himself...
I said it a few episodes ago - I think that Saul is going to be part of the scam that gets Nacho out of the game. He's somehow going to help him escape, but it's going to happen in a way that really screws over the cartel, so when someone comes for Saul he's all flipping out assuming that it has to be Lalo and throwing Nacho under the bus.
I think it's over. She can't recover from that. All this time she been exaggerating Jimmy's good side while she flirts with his bad side...she can't do it anymore. His good side is gone, what she's seen cannot be unseen. I know BB/BCS always confusing us and pulling the unexpected, but I think it would break character too much to bring her back from the brink again. She done.Kim just got hit by a Mack truck at the end there. Like looking at a stranger, it finally hit her. He ain't give a fukk.
Me too.
Nice catch."I will do everything in my power to live up to the name McGill."
"I will not be practicing under the name McGill."
I was disappointed in Mike. That was one of the coldest killings in the entire BB/BCS universe so far....the only ones I can remember that were worse was killing the kid after the train heist and when Todd kills Jesse's girl. Mike's an old dude, I don't see how he rationalizes that even to himself...
The Salamancas are all madmen. I would've loved to get a look at what the women of the family were like. From Tio to Lalo and Tuco and the Twins in between 
to breed that many maniacs they must've been pieces of work.
No sympathy for Werner. He was gonna have more money than he knew what to do with, and take his wife on as many vacations as she pleased. Mike did him a favor because Gus wouldn't have took him out as painlessly and probably killed his wife too. Should've just done the job.
Jimmy's transformation to Saul is complete he played them muthafukkers like a violin, he gives no fukks Kim saw the real Jimmy for once and it scared the fukk outta her.
to breed that many maniacs they must've been pieces of work.No sympathy for Werner. He was gonna have more money than he knew what to do with, and take his wife on as many vacations as she pleased. Mike did him a favor because Gus wouldn't have took him out as painlessly and probably killed his wife too. Should've just done the job.
Jimmy's transformation to Saul is complete
he played them muthafukkers like a violin, he gives no fukks Kim saw the real Jimmy for once and it scared the fukk outta her.
Spades Of Aces
The Infinity Watcher
I loved the finale. Probably the best episode out of this series so far. Mike reluctantly “Broke Bad” here as he had to execute a man whom he knew posed no threat to Gus operations. Gus isn’t a half measured guy so It made it that much harder for Mike to go through with it. You could really see the emotional pain of what Mike had to do. What really got me about the scene was the beautiful night backdrop of the execution. Just wow...Then when Mike and Gus were staring at each other at the end, you could sense that they both wanted to kill each other, lol , but they can’t.
As for Jimmy...About time he broke bad lol! Great performance by Bob as you could feel and see him not giving any fcuks to getting what he wants!
I have a lot more to chime in but I’m still processing everything! For me, it’s my favorite season!
As for Jimmy...About time he broke bad lol! Great performance by Bob as you could feel and see him not giving any fcuks to getting what he wants!
I have a lot more to chime in but I’m still processing everything! For me, it’s my favorite season!