The OFFICIAL 2023 College Football RANDOM THOUGHTS Thread

PREDICT the NATIONAL CHAMPION


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I need this recruiting class to be wrapped up, got me investigating bullshyt like this :smh: bring him home Sleaze


Man the remnants of this shyt gon be nasty potentially lol.

Old niccas gon need to find space quick before these high schoolers start commiting and teams be like we don't need ya position & vice versa; these high schoolers playing guess who games wit the commitments til these teams gon find a dawg in the portal and say we good on u & mfs gotta go play for EMU and shyt :laugh:
 
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Checks not clearing in Tallyho? :hhh:



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TOP 40 COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF TEAMS OF ALL TIME:



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40. 2015 Michigan State (12-2)
CFP result:
Lost to Alabama 38-0
Mark Dantonio's 2015 Spartans are definitive proof that no matter what the committee says, it is picking the four "most deserving" teams rather than the "best" -- MSU was definitively the former and in no way the latter. And that's fine! The Spartans finished 18th in FPI and 15th in SP+ but beat a dynamite Ohio State team and outlasted unbeaten Iowa to win the Big Ten. Then they did exactly what was expected of them against Alabama in the Cotton Bowl: They lost big.:mjlol:



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8. 2018 Alabama (14-1)
CFP result:
Beat Oklahoma 45-34; lost to Clemson 44-16
The 2018 Bama squad was just as good as the 2020 Tide on paper but couldn't clear the final hurdle. The Tide destroyed their first 14 opponents by an average of 32 points, and only Georgia in the SEC championship game offered any resistance (though the Dawgs offered quite a bit). The Tide combined Nick Saban's best offense yet with a top-10 defense ... but they laid the ultimate egg in the CFP finale.
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7. 2017 Alabama (13-1)
CFP result:
Beat Clemson 24-6; beat Georgia 26-23
Bama went scorched-earth during an 11-0 start, but the offense grew rickety late. The Tide barely eked out a CFP bid after a 26-14 loss to Auburn, and they trailed Georgia 13-0 at halftime in the championship game before freshman Tua Tagovailoa tagged in, led Bama on a 20-7 run and -- after the Tide nearly won in regulation -- threw a famous second-and-26 strike to DeVonta Smith to win Nick Saban his sixth national title.
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6. 2023 Michigan (13-0)
CFP matchup:
Rose Bowl Game pres. by Prudential vs. Alabama
They had to wait most of the season for a challenge, but "Playing Penn State and Ohio State without your suspended head coach" certainly counts. They passed the tests they were given with aplomb, finishing the regular season first in scoring defense and fourth in yards allowed per play. Only two opponents stayed within a touchdown of the Wolverines. They get a little better and better each season.
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5. 2021 Georgia (14-1)
CFP result:
Beat Michigan 34-11; beat Alabama 33-18
Kirby Smart's Bulldogs were far and away the best team of the season's first three months, combining steady and efficient offense with college football's most consistently dominant defense in years. Only Bama scored more than 17 points on the Dawgs, who lost to the Tide in the SEC championship game but rebounded to pen a happy ending and, with help from a game-clinching Kelee Ringo pick-six, win their first national title in 41 years.
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4. 2018 Clemson (15-0)
CFP result:
Beat Notre Dame 30-3; beat Alabama 44-16
Clemson barely survived September unbeaten, needing a 2-point-conversion stop to escape Texas A&M and a rousing comeback led by backup quarterback Chase Brice to beat Syracuse. But once Trevor Lawrence was healthy and established in the starting lineup, no one had any hope against the Tigers. They beat Florida State by 49, Wake Forest by 60 and Louisville by 61, and they won two CFP games by a combined 74-19. Goodness.
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3. 2022 Georgia (13-0)
CFP matchup:
Beat Ohio State 42-41; beat TCU 65-7
Only twice did the defending national champs find themselves in a down-to-the-wire game, and only once did they have to lean on the college football gods for help (with Ohio State's last-second field goal in the semifinals). They scored at least 37 points in 11 games and allowed 14 or fewer in nine. They didn't have quite the level of high-end talent their 2021 team boasted, but they were an even more dominant team.
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2. 2019 LSU (15-0)
CFP result:
Beat Oklahoma 63-28; beat Clemson 42-25

Plenty of coaches have attempted to modernize their offense in the hopes of giving their program a shot in the arm. Ed Orgeron's 2019 team set the bar impossibly high for any future modernizers. With help from an elite skill corps, Joe Burrow threw for 5,671 yards and 60 touchdowns (!!!). Once LSU's defense got healthy late in the year, the Tigers were untouchable, beating Alabama in Tuscaloosa, then winning their last six games by an average of 30 points.
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1. 2020 Alabama (13-0)
CFP result:
Beat Notre Dame 31-14; beat Ohio State 52-24
The Crimson Tide had the Nos. 1, 3 and 5 finishers in the Heisman voting. They played one game decided by fewer than 14 points. They bested an SEC-only schedule by an average of 30.2 points per game. Their defense struggled early but allowed only 15 points per game after mid-October. This was the best Nick Saban team ever and quite possibly the best of the 21st century.
Best team ... from the best coach ... with the best dynasty of the 21st century (at the very least)? Sounds like the best team of the CFP era.

them top 2 gotta flip :hubie:
 

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We're going to a 12 team playoff next season so I don't see why them fukking us would be the catalyst. FSU will likely be in the playoffs every year now if they handle business. Pat Payton asked for more than what Verse got this year in NIL and that's what this is about.
 

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We're going to a 12 team playoff next season so I don't see why them fukking us would be the catalyst. FSU will likely be in the playoffs every year now if they handle business. Pat Payton asked for more than what Verse got this year in NIL and that's what this is about.

I agree and it has nothing to do with Payton leaving, but it’s having a negative impact on some recruits. Auburn is supposedly telling a 5* commit why go to FSU to go 13-0 and not make the playoff when you can come to Auburn and compete for a playoff spot. And apparently it’s working.

Clemson and Miami are clowning but I don’t see how this doesn’t negatively affect every ACC school. ACC is basically G 5 status and will be very lucky to have more than 1 school in the 12 team playoff.
 

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I agree and it has nothing to do with Payton leaving, but it’s having a negative impact on some recruits. Auburn is supposedly telling a 5* commit why go to FSU to go 13-0 and not make the playoff when you can come to Auburn and compete for a playoff spot. And apparently it’s working.

Clemson and Miami are clowning but I don’t see how this doesn’t negatively affect every ACC school. ACC is basically G 5 status and will be very lucky to have more than 1 school in the 12 team playoff.
Moot point when we're moving to a 12-team playoff. FSU will be in every year. KJ Bolden's recruitment as far as Auburn is concerned is NIL-related.
 

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TOP 40 COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF TEAMS OF ALL TIME:



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40. 2015 Michigan State (12-2)
CFP result:
Lost to Alabama 38-0
Mark Dantonio's 2015 Spartans are definitive proof that no matter what the committee says, it is picking the four "most deserving" teams rather than the "best" -- MSU was definitively the former and in no way the latter. And that's fine! The Spartans finished 18th in FPI and 15th in SP+ but beat a dynamite Ohio State team and outlasted unbeaten Iowa to win the Big Ten. Then they did exactly what was expected of them against Alabama in the Cotton Bowl: They lost big.:mjlol:



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8. 2018 Alabama (14-1)
CFP result:
Beat Oklahoma 45-34; lost to Clemson 44-16
The 2018 Bama squad was just as good as the 2020 Tide on paper but couldn't clear the final hurdle. The Tide destroyed their first 14 opponents by an average of 32 points, and only Georgia in the SEC championship game offered any resistance (though the Dawgs offered quite a bit). The Tide combined Nick Saban's best offense yet with a top-10 defense ... but they laid the ultimate egg in the CFP finale.
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7. 2017 Alabama (13-1)
CFP result:
Beat Clemson 24-6; beat Georgia 26-23
Bama went scorched-earth during an 11-0 start, but the offense grew rickety late. The Tide barely eked out a CFP bid after a 26-14 loss to Auburn, and they trailed Georgia 13-0 at halftime in the championship game before freshman Tua Tagovailoa tagged in, led Bama on a 20-7 run and -- after the Tide nearly won in regulation -- threw a famous second-and-26 strike to DeVonta Smith to win Nick Saban his sixth national title.
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6. 2023 Michigan (13-0)
CFP matchup:
Rose Bowl Game pres. by Prudential vs. Alabama
They had to wait most of the season for a challenge, but "Playing Penn State and Ohio State without your suspended head coach" certainly counts. They passed the tests they were given with aplomb, finishing the regular season first in scoring defense and fourth in yards allowed per play. Only two opponents stayed within a touchdown of the Wolverines. They get a little better and better each season.
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5. 2021 Georgia (14-1)
CFP result:
Beat Michigan 34-11; beat Alabama 33-18
Kirby Smart's Bulldogs were far and away the best team of the season's first three months, combining steady and efficient offense with college football's most consistently dominant defense in years. Only Bama scored more than 17 points on the Dawgs, who lost to the Tide in the SEC championship game but rebounded to pen a happy ending and, with help from a game-clinching Kelee Ringo pick-six, win their first national title in 41 years.
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4. 2018 Clemson (15-0)
CFP result:
Beat Notre Dame 30-3; beat Alabama 44-16
Clemson barely survived September unbeaten, needing a 2-point-conversion stop to escape Texas A&M and a rousing comeback led by backup quarterback Chase Brice to beat Syracuse. But once Trevor Lawrence was healthy and established in the starting lineup, no one had any hope against the Tigers. They beat Florida State by 49, Wake Forest by 60 and Louisville by 61, and they won two CFP games by a combined 74-19. Goodness.
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3. 2022 Georgia (13-0)
CFP matchup:
Beat Ohio State 42-41; beat TCU 65-7
Only twice did the defending national champs find themselves in a down-to-the-wire game, and only once did they have to lean on the college football gods for help (with Ohio State's last-second field goal in the semifinals). They scored at least 37 points in 11 games and allowed 14 or fewer in nine. They didn't have quite the level of high-end talent their 2021 team boasted, but they were an even more dominant team.
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2. 2019 LSU (15-0)
CFP result:
Beat Oklahoma 63-28; beat Clemson 42-25

Plenty of coaches have attempted to modernize their offense in the hopes of giving their program a shot in the arm. Ed Orgeron's 2019 team set the bar impossibly high for any future modernizers. With help from an elite skill corps, Joe Burrow threw for 5,671 yards and 60 touchdowns (!!!). Once LSU's defense got healthy late in the year, the Tigers were untouchable, beating Alabama in Tuscaloosa, then winning their last six games by an average of 30 points.
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1. 2020 Alabama (13-0)
CFP result:
Beat Notre Dame 31-14; beat Ohio State 52-24
The Crimson Tide had the Nos. 1, 3 and 5 finishers in the Heisman voting. They played one game decided by fewer than 14 points. They bested an SEC-only schedule by an average of 30.2 points per game. Their defense struggled early but allowed only 15 points per game after mid-October. This was the best Nick Saban team ever and quite possibly the best of the 21st century.
Best team ... from the best coach ... with the best dynasty of the 21st century (at the very least)? Sounds like the best team of the CFP era.

them top 2 gotta flip :hubie:
History won't remember this, but I really think people do just such a poor job of contextualizing that 2020 year with the horrible quality of play in the power 5. The SEC was fukking terrible, in particular. From what I remember with the B10, really poor. Oregon won the PAC 12 in a year where dudes wanted Cristobal gone, if I remember correctly.

The team that had the most talent beat the shyt out of everyone else in a season that was all about attrition - I don't know if their legacy is much more than that, no hater shyt. I guess at the end of the day, all you can do is judge how good someone is relative to their peers though :manny:
 
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