The Nazi's Went After the Gays and Trans people first.....

[BobbyWojak]

Oh yes there were.

Magnus Hirschfeld - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He also had the Institute of Sexual Research, and they did do sex reassignment surgery there.

This is trans revisionist history, they were not a recognized group even among the left at the time, we are talking about a handful of surgeries in the 1930's not an entire community of people subjugated before everyone else like OP is suggesting.

 

[Iverson_64]

This is the exception to the rule, in this one specific instance they used the lgbt as a precedent, but they've been distorting American history in the classroom for generations. Framing the DeSantis situation as some argument for intersectionality is laughable and ahistoric.

It's not an argument for "intersectionality."

It's simply recognizing what the GOP's ultimate agenda is and not giving them props for opposing LGBTQ rights.

David Duke once supported an Anti-Semitic Black man running for office in New York City. But that doesn't mean David Duke deserves props for it.

Donald Trump proposed that fugazi "Platinum Plan" for Black America during the 2020 election and tried to bribe Black celebrities into endorsing it but I'm not giving him props for it.

You can be someone who's personally against Trans rights or activism or whatever while still recognizing what the GOP's ultimate goal is. The GOP wants to limit the rights of everybody(Trans, Black, Hispanic, Gay, immigrants, etc.) who isn't a straight White man and they've already made some steps into the process.

The reasons for a 60 year old Black pastor in Alabama opposing gay marriage or trans rights isn't the same as the GOP's. That's all I'm saying. And giving the GOP props for it will cause people to overlook their agenda of wanting to restrict Black rights.

There's a reason why the ONLY places in America that are actively studying reparations and trying to create payment plans for it are Blue. There's not a single Red or MAGA area in the country that wouldn't create intense opposition or cause a mini-"Jan 6th" scenario from happening in the city hall if the same thing were proposed.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

I'm not to crazy about all the LGBTQ stuff but I do think they have a right to exist. Republican fascists have found a new enemy they can use to rouse up their base and once they're done don't think for a second they won't start explicitly targeting us.

Before Namibia ?

 

[ColdSlither]

This is trans revisionist history, they were not a recognized group even among the left at the time, we are talking about a handful of surgeries in the 1930's not an entire community of people subjugated before everyone else like OP is suggesting.

It's not new. Period.

 

[hex]

BE SCARED

BE TERRIFIED

EVERYTHING IS HITLER

EVERYTHING IS FACIST

Don't you hysterical fukks get tired?

Ain't you the same clown that was just in another thread running interference for Ron DeSantis?

Go sit your dumb ass down somewhere.

Fred.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

No they didn't.
Shark Island concentration camp - Wikipedia

Peep the years for that my guy. The Nazis and the German empire are not the same government

Fwiw they went have the socialists and communists first

Night of the Long Knives - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Originalman]

That is the amazing part about this. So many of our people do not realize that Black people have always been the groups that they experiment on first with their ideas. When they see the effects and those effects are what is desired, they role it out to use on every other undesirable group. Still, in the end the number one undesirable group, the one they always want to get first, is Black people.

I call bullshyt on any group trying to shame my people (Black people overall) into supporting their causes, when they were nowhere to be seen when my people were suffering at the hands of evil first.

Amen breh! Couldn't agree more!!!!!

 

[Uachet]

#BothSides really believes Republicans have the same opposition to Trans/Gay people as a 60 year old Southern Black preacher when that's not the case at all.

Black folks who aren't down with it are usually just religious or we have a pseudo-libertarian stance on it where we might comment on it but we'll still let people live how they want to.

White Republicans want to restrict rights of everyone who isn't a Straight White male. They're opposition to the Trans thing isn't something that we should sympathize with them over.

Reminds me of brehs here praising Ann Coulter for bashing immigrants and dropping an occassional Black history truth while completely ignoring the fact that Ann Coulter hates Nikki Haley for taking down Confederate monuments and flags down in South Carolina.

Ann Coulter claimed that the Confederacy was an important part of American history and she claimed that Nikki's decision to remove it was anti-American.

Funny how that never gets brought up by #BothSides when Ann Coulter goes viral on here.

Hell, David Duke once supported an anti-Semitic Black man running for mayor in New York other the guise of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." I guess David Duke deserves props for supporting that brother, huh?

You can be against Trans rights, especially the radical stuff like the bathroom and sports stuff. There's many Democrats or Liberals who aren't on board with it in fact.

But giving the GOP props for opposing it makes no sense when we all know what their ultimate agenda is and how we're factored into it.

Who gave the GOP props for opposing it? Please, point out one person in this thread that stated they support the GOP opposing it. You out here strawmaning in paragraphs.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Ain't you the same clown that was just in another thread running interference for Ron DeSantis?

Go sit your dumb ass down somewhere.

Fred.

That clown would walk across broken glass to suck one of these white supremacists dikks. He’s one of the dumbest people on this board

 

[MajesticLion]

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

And I don’t know why I have to keep saying this. The faux militant black argument of “fukk the lgbtq community they sell us out we ain’t helping them , they’re all racist blah blah blah etc” falls apart when you acknowledge there black ppl in the lgbtq community.

Just say you hate gays and drop the act. Thanks in advance

 

[Uachet]

Peep the years for that my guy. The Nazis and the German empire are not the same government

Fwiw they went have the socialists and communists first

Night of the Long Knives - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Nazism was born out of the loss the German Empire suffered during WW1. Hitler was using slogans similar to Trump telling the people they could be great again, like they were before WW1. So I do not separate the two from each other, because the two were tied together by a people and a history.

 

[8WON6]

Now go see who the Nazis got their inspiration from?

How the Nazis Were Inspired by Jim Crow | HISTORY

To craft legal discrimination, the Third Reich studied the United States.

www.history.com

How American Racism Influenced Hitler

How did a civilized society come to embrace Hitler’s extreme ideas? In 2018, Alex Ross wrote about the scholars mapping the international precursors of Nazism.

www.newyorker.com

Why the Nazis studied American race laws for inspiration | Aeon Ideas

When Nazi Germany drew up the racist Nuremberg Laws, it looked to the Jim Crow laws and anti-immigrant policies of the US

aeon.co

 

[BobbyWojak]

It's not new. Period.

You can't be serious

Their entire argument hinges on there being an openly transgender community in Germany that the Nazis targeted before Jews, which is insane. They burned a research library in 1933, while terrible, was far from the first time that Nazis engaged in domestic terrorism.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Nazism was born out of the loss the German Empire suffered during WW1. Hitler was using slogans similar to Trump telling the people they could be great again, like they were before WW1. So I do not separate the two from each other, because the two were tied together by a people and a history.

You’re completely ignored the fact that the german empire and Nazis are two completely different government. Nazism wasn’t even the majority party when they took over Germany.

You in your mind not being able to separate two completely different governments that went to war for two extremely different reasons(both reasons were dumb as fukk) doesn’t make you correct.