The Majority Of African Americans Are Descended From - Igbo/Yoruba Tribes

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Took my first Yoruba language class yesterday and loved it.

It's a beautiful language and after learning that I descend from the Yoruba ethnic group through DNA testing, I honestly want to learn all I can about the heritage, language and culture because American society refuses to acknowledge it. This is a great thread to connect the diaspora.

Although some Yoruba were enslaved and sent out of Africa before 1800, the vast majority of Yoruba were sent out of Africa in the early 19th century. The collapse of the Oyo Empire, the Yoruba Civil Wars and invasions by the Fulani and Nupe accelerated the enslavement of the Yoruba and the re-alignment of power in what is now South-West Nigeria.

I recommend reading 'West African Warfare in Bahia and Cuba' by Manuel Barcia.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Yoruba's After The Fall Of Oyo Empire - Culture - Nigeria

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

How And What Made Oyo Empire Collapse?

It would make for a great television series

 

[Guvnor]

Did Caribbean folks come from there as well? Something for me to research.

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

You can't go by looks since AAs are a mixture of African tribes

Bruh, African "tribes" are a mixture of African "tribes"​

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Did Caribbean folks come from there as well? Something for me to research.

Yes indeed!

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Did Caribbean folks come from there as well? Something for me to research.

then entire "afro new world" is the same african stocks but the proportions are different.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Although some Yoruba were enslaved and sent out of Africa before 1800, the vast majority of Yoruba were sent out of Africa in the early 19th century. The collapse of the Oyo Empire, the Yoruba Civil Wars and invasions by the Fulani and Nupe accelerated the enslavement of the Yoruba and the re-alignment of power in what is now South-West Nigeria.

I recommend reading 'West African Warfare in Bahia and Cuba' by Manuel Barcia.

So most AAs would not be expected to have much Yoruba ancestry since the importation of enslaved people was outlawed in 1808 and fell off precipitously after that, right?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

So most AAs would not be expected to have much Yoruba ancestry since the importation of enslaved people was outlawed in 1808 and fell off precipitously after that, right?

aframs don't have that much yoruba






but the ones with it, is more towards the golf coast % wise

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

So most AAs would not be expected to have much Yoruba ancestry since the importation of enslaved people was outlawed in 1808 and fell off precipitously after that, right?

Yeah to an extent

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

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I don't have much of a dog in this fight either way But I should add something to this conversation(a convo i've seen play out on other sites aswel) people overlook.
Typically when the conversation about who the majority of current day AA derive ancestry from someone(s) always pops out the data/charts derived from of "cargo" logs, census reports,etc. on where the ships came from and the status of their "cargo"(Africans) ...and that's a good thing


But that's not strictly speaking how it works. The conversation is on "ancestry" which is a byproduct of procreation which is already dynamic(I.E. you don't know whos going to procreate or how much) ...but at that time who got to procreate was all over the place(while some died young...) ...and in certain cases highly controlled(...others were picked to pop out baby after baby)

Slave Breeding Farms of "Africans in North America"
6 Startling Things About Sex Farms During Slavery That You May Not Know - Atlanta Black Star
Slave breeding in the United States - Wikipedia
http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/maai/enslavement/text6/masterslavesexualabuse.pdf






Even a %10 population can come to dominate the "ancestral landscape" given the proper environment. This is even before taking into account XY chromosome issues. If I as a man pop out 20 girls and 1 boy ....and you only pop out 3 boys. You still have a far greater chance of extending your male ancestral line in both breath(children) and depth(time/history).
That's even though I had more kids than you.


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I should go further into this topic to do it the justice that it deserves ....but I'm honest enough to say i'm not invested enough in it to do the necessary work.
I think it's because I'm in Alabama and can get in the car drive down the road and see cotton & various other fields(if they're in season) I can drive out into the county and see plantation houses and stuff. Basically it's so close to me that I take it for granted. People talk about slavery so much in the states, I've always felt like I knew all I needed to know ....or at least enough to pique what ever interest I may have. So I've always focused on African & diasporan history(outside of the institution of slavery).​

That said, one of these days I need to start diving into those slave narratives.






Carry on


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[JahFocus CS]

Does anyone have sources on the changes in the regional mix from the 1600s to the 1800s in terms of where captive Africans were from? I'm in the 1830s-1850s with my genealogical research and I suspect on some of those lines, I'm only 2-4 generations away from the first African to be brought here... but I do think at least one of my lines goes back to like the 1600s. DNA results are suggesting Mali, Nigeria, and the Congo/Angola as the main regions my ancestral line markers match up with.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Did Caribbean folks come from there as well? Something for me to research.

To expand on your question a bit more, a lot of Yoruba speaking people were sent to Cuba. A partial reason for this was that Cuba became the sugar entrepot of the Caribbean after the Haitian Revolution. Cuba continued to import slaves as the Oyo collapse/Yoruba Civil Wars began - allowing them to have a great access to enslaved Africans from that region.

 

[JahFocus CS]

 

[Guvnor]

then entire "afro new world" is the same african stocks but the proportions are different.

Makes sense, so the French and British both got their slaves from the same places?

Also it's one thing to know where the slaves came from but where were most captured is another question and something I also think about it. I mean many of them were seized from wars or enslaved from one tribe by another. So with that said from what I know, many Europeans got slaves from Ghana and they even have some of the slave castles their today as a sort of tourist attraction so people can go there and take a look at what it was like foro ur ancestors.

I also ponder why so many were coming from Nigeria. Were their some factors that led to them being weaker at the time or exploited by other tribes. I have to look more into to this Oyo Collapse you guys are mentioning.

To expand on your question a bit more, a lot of Yoruba speaking people were sent to Cuba. A partial reason for this was that Cuba became the sugar entrepot of the Caribbean after the Haitian Revolution. Cuba continued to import slaves as the Oyo collapse/Yoruba Civil Wars began - allowing them to have a great access to enslaved Africans from that region.

Makes sense, which is why Santeria developed in Cuba. Thanks for the info man.

This might also be why I'm drawn to the orisha and IFA. I also heard I got some fam out in Cuba but I have to verify this.