The Majority Of African Americans Are Descended From - Igbo/Yoruba Tribes

[Ezigbo Nwanyi]

. Fascinating stuff. Thanks for the in-depth explanation. There's a lot I was unaware of in there.




Its very understandable that slavers would promote the suicide-to-hell connection to ensure the longevity of their workforce.




In fact, I'm suprised that the longstanding belief in reincarnation can exist in tandem with Christianity after all these years. As a follow up question, is the reincarnation strictly familial (like in your case), or is it society wide?

I would argue that the bible indirectly talks about reincarnation, especially when Jesus spoke about John the Baptist but this is debated against by theological scholars. Within igbo culture reincarnation is familial, which is why in the "olden" days like my grandfather would say the sins of your ancestors can impact your children and your children children future if you don't "fix it". For example, in igbo culture if someone is facing great hardship or despair, you are always told to "go find out what is going on". Which means is there something that happened in your past life, or sins of your family that is hindering you? This is the part where many who are declared "Christians" will go to a native doctor who is able to penetrate the ancestors and the gods of the land for answers.

 

[#1 pick]

Agree.
I'm gonna need proof that he said/wrote such a comment and in what possible context. The rebellions that took place in the U.S. are documented. Certainly hundreds of others were not documented, and that doesn't include the countless other methods of resistance like poisoning whites,escaping-and returning to help others flee, etc.

Have to give Dr. Anderson the benefit of the doubt that somebody saw a 2 minute youtube video and misinterpreted what he said.

If he did say it to make some sort of point, like a minister would do, he exercised poor judgement.


He's 100% wrong, documented history says different than whatever false point he was trying to make.

https://www.thecoli.com/posts/36055130/


It's completely disrespectful to use the terms "willing" or "choice" when discussing the lives of enslaved people. From the comfort and safety of the 21st century, people will fix their face to say/write stuff that is historically inaccurate and disrespects their direct ancestors.

Anytime anyone uses willing or choice, that's BS if the other choice is death.

 

[Brer Dog]

"Red-bone/yellow-bone"= As many of you may know, we African-Americans love to refer to a black person who is fair skinned as being a red-bone. Though what many do not know is that, this term was derived as a term to signify a particular type of black person amongst us African-Americans and that was our high number of fair skinned Igbo female ancestors.

The original term used was Redbo, and it pointed to often light and reddish flushed skin tone. In time as we became more unified/amalgamated as a people, our mindset upon the distinction changed to simply meaning black female who is fair skinned and not necessarily just one of Igbo descent, then again to just any person male or female who is fair skinned; the term changed as well to its common Red-bone. In the Caribbean there is a comparable term that they used in which is simply "Red-Ibo".

@GrindtooFilthy
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@Samori Toure

How true is this? Jamaicans use 'Red' and 'Yellow' to describe skin tones identical to the ones AA use them for. I always wondered if this was common African influence.

 

[Samori Toure]

@GrindtooFilthy
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@Samori Toure

How true is this? Jamaicans use 'Red' and 'Yellow' to describe skin tones identical to the ones AA use them for. I always wondered if this was common African influence.

It might be from the phrase Red Ibo or Red Eboe, which Jamaicans use. It is probably from the fact that a lot of Jamaicans are descended from Igbo people.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

It might be from the phrase Red Ibo or Red Eboe, which Jamaicans use. It is probably from the fact that a lot of Jamaicans are descended from Igbo people.

Old thread but you've bodied this topic before a majority of african-americans were not taken from the nigeria area, it was mainly senegal, sierra leone, and congo irc like you said before

most igbos and yoruba people got sent down to the carribeans and south america, and you can especially see this ifa and odinani remixed into their culture

 

[Samori Toure]

Old thread but you've bodied this topic before a majority of african-americans were not taken from the nigeria area, it was mainly senegal, sierra leone, and congo irc like you said before

most igbos and yoruba people got sent down to the carribeans and south america, and you can especially see this ifa and odinani remixed into their culture

Yup. It was a matter of most of modern Nigeria did not entering into the slave trade until after the USA had banned slavery directly from Africa. So most Nigerians ended up in the Caribbean and South America. If you see large Nigerian DNA patterns in African Americans it usually points to USA slave owners buying slaves from the Caribbean and bringing them to the USA.

AncestryDNA and 23andme point to Nigerian DNA patterns being very high in African Americans, but many other researchers and historians are stating that AncestryDNA and 23andme do not have nearly enough samples to make that type of assertion and those companies have confirmation bias based upon the regions where they get the majority of their samples from. I don't recall the exact number of samples that Ancestry has for West Africa, but I want to say that it is less than 2,000 samples; while 23andme only has about 700 samples.

The interesting thing is African Ancestry has over 33,000 samples, but they are limiting themselves to testing only a small maternal and paternal line. However, just looking at those lines it looks African Americans parental lines are from all over Africa.

 

[qwer]

Old thread but you've bodied this topic before a majority of african-americans were not taken from the nigeria area, it was mainly senegal, sierra leone, and congo irc like you said before

most igbos and yoruba people got sent down to the carribeans and south america, and you can especially see this ifa and odinani remixed into their culture

Yes but a lot of slaves from the Caribbean and Latin America were imported to America

 

[qwer]

Odum is wrong on this one. While yes, majority of the slaves that came to America was from Angola and Senegal. A vast majority of the women were from Nigeria, especially Igboland and there was an extreme want for Igbo women due to the ability to have many children under less than favorable conditions. Something that other women struggled at. That's not anything to be proud of as we saw in the Eastern Shores of Maryland and how Maryland is still impacted and effected to this day. People just don't know the damage that was done.

As great as Odum is on this sub, he missed the mark here and as always, Samori misses the mark.

What happened in the eastern shores of Maryland

 

[Samori Toure]

Yes but a lot of slaves from the Caribbean and Latin America were imported to America

Nah it was not that many, because not many slaves were actually brought to the USA due to the USA not having large plantations. African American increase in population was due almost entirely to natural reproduction by the people that were brought to the USA, rather than the importation of new slaves from the Caribbean or Latin America. .

"... The transatlantic slave trade had its beginning in the middle of the fifteenth century when Portuguese ships sailed down the West African coast. The intention was to trade for gold and spices, but the voyagers found another even more valuable commodity—human beings. Over time, the trade in men and women supplanted other commerce, and the slaves’ destination changed from Europe to the Americas, where plantations growing commodities for the international market initiated the massive transfer of African peoples. In all, some eleven to twelve million Africans were forcibly carried to the Americas. Of those, roughly one-half million (or about 4.5 percent) were taken to mainland North America or what became the United States... ."

The Origins of Slavery | AP US History Study Guide from The Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History

The Caribbean, Central and South America is where over 90percent+ of all slaves went. Not many of those people were brought to the USA. In fact the only groups that would have been brought to the USA (formerly British North America) other than some Haitians) would have been from some of the Islands controlled by the British like Jamaica. However, like I stated not many were brought to the USA, because the USA did not have many large plantations.

 

[DOGGFATHER96]

Nah it was not that many, because not many slaves were actually brought to the USA due to the USA not having large plantations. African American increase in population was due almost entirely to natural reproduction by the people that were brought to the USA, rather than the importation of new slaves from the Caribbean or Latin America. .

"... The transatlantic slave trade had its beginning in the middle of the fifteenth century when Portuguese ships sailed down the West African coast. The intention was to trade for gold and spices, but the voyagers found another even more valuable commodity—human beings. Over time, the trade in men and women supplanted other commerce, and the slaves’ destination changed from Europe to the Americas, where plantations growing commodities for the international market initiated the massive transfer of African peoples. In all, some eleven to twelve million Africans were forcibly carried to the Americas. Of those, roughly one-half million (or about 4.5 percent) were taken to mainland North America or what became the United States... ."

The Origins of Slavery | AP US History Study Guide from The Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History

The Caribbean, Central and South America is where over 90percent+ of all slaves went. Not many of those people were brought to the USA. In fact the only groups that would have been brought to the USA (formerly British North America) other than some Haitians) would have been from some of the Islands controlled by the British like Jamaica. However, like I stated not many were brought to the USA, because the USA did not have many large plantations.

Don't forget Barbados and Trinidad alot of slaves were brought to Maryland, Virginia and south Carolina from there during colonial years. Along with Africans from brazil and curacao were sent to new Netherlands(present day Pennsylvania, new York, new Jersey and Delaware) and slaves from cuba and Puerto rico being smuggled in illegally into Galveston texas and Louisiana from 1810 to 1840. The history of blacks in america is so complex.