The crack era has destroyed US boxing. Hear me out...

[Real Talk of NY]

HBO Pay Per View killed US boxing. Back in the day stars like Ali, and Sugar Ray Leonard use to fight on network TV, so there was so much exposure to the sport. Alot of kids dont follow the sport anymore, or when they do they are too old to reach their potential.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

sounds like y'all would like to see boxing become a mini professional sport like college ball and college football

Edit: what I mean by this is, college scholarships to top schools etc etc

(not saying thats a good or bad thing)

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

I grew up around the 52 and saw Mike Tyson use it in the ring. Bernard called it the Jailhouse Rock. American boxing is in the toilet because niqqas don't use their hands anymore.

Everytime I see this I think back to

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vHs1YtoWaA&t=2m21s"]RBG- Incarcerated Scarfaces 2 of 5- SCARED 4 LIFE - YouTube[/ame]


@ the 2:21 mark

 

[mastermind]

i've actually thought about this theory before. i think the american athlete is about hit it's peak the next few years. just think about it for a second, if kids aren't playing outside anymore, instead playing on the computer/tumblr/twitter all day isn't that going to have a long-term negative effect on our athletes across all sports?

A few years? Its happening now, and has been happening the last decade or so. Ive been making posts about this for the longest but something is up with American athletes in terms of development.

Its a mix of things with poor coaching, not a big enough pool of talent, crime, etc. America has hit their peak athletically and something has to change.


As for the slap boxing theory, I can accept it. I do feel there is more to it as well, but guns have lead to the end of a lot of potential athletes.

 

[SuikodenII]

I agree with just about everything said in this thread.......

Things done changed on this side, remember they used to thump? But now they blast, right

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Do yall think the drug war and the wanton inprisonment of black males have a role in this as well. There are lots of heads doin insane years, how many of them could of potentially been Boxers? Or at the very least, what type of outside factor was the drug war in all this? The crack era being as extreme as it was made it so that not only were there shooters, but prolly a lot of people goin out of their way to avoid conflict or flat out leave the environments that bred some of the GOATs of the sport.

 

[NormanConnors]

I saw these two old drunks slap boxing on the corner a year ago, and all of the young niqqas including myself were in complete awe at these dude going at it.

They both looked polished as fukk....these dudes aren't growing up like that anymore. American hand skills have handcuffed itself to the gun.

yep it' still around just not as relevant. I saw a couple kids slap boxing in the mall the other day

 

[CrimsonTider]

I agree with just about everything said in this thread.......

Things done changed on this side, remember they used to thump? But now they blast, right

That's the thing guns are so easy to obtain now.

Please believe if nikkas in the 60s, 70s could get a gun as easily as they could now

Them nikkas would have been shooting each other up too

 

[NYC Rebel]

That's the thing guns are so easy to obtain now.

Please believe if nikkas in the 60s, 70s could get a gun as easily as they could now

Them nikkas would have been shooting each other up too

Indeed.

Back then, it would be a crew of 30 niqqas and one gun between all of them.

Niqqas used to let off to let you know they had a gun.

 

[The Message]

Very good thread.

I think you're on point. Crack decimated black America. It was pure hell in the 80's. Family values and manhood traditions in our culture took a downturn with the amount of brothas getting locked up or killed. The importance of hand skills wasnt able to be passed down to the 80's babies. That "Real men use their hands, not a gun" talk wasnt there anymore. Single mothers werent teachin a lot of boys about fightin. I dont know about yall, but my Pops, uncles and older brothers taught me how to fight and play ball. It was like a rite of passage. Back then it seemed like if you didnt fight you werent respected. Even if you got that azz tapped, you at least got props for scrappin.

At the end of the crack era and the influx of that gang life, if you whooped somebody's azz, fam is gonna go grab the tool and shoot up your mother's house. Knuckling somebody down aint gonna stand up to a 9mm.

So I think culturally, fighting lost its priority, which spilled over to losing its priority in athletics.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

i've actually thought about this theory before. i think the american athlete is about hit it's peak the next few years. just think about it for a second, if kids aren't playing outside anymore, instead playing on the computer/tumblr/twitter all day isn't that going to have a long-term negative effect on our athletes across all sports?

this isn't going to happen..

younger athletes are taking up training routines more and more similar to professional athletes.

kids are already doing Sparq and BSF training in middle school...just to have an edge in HS

kids been playing outside less and less in the past 25 years, yet were seeing the best athletes being produced across the board now.

 

[Liquid]

*has not read the thread*

Boxing needs a unified promotion and system that every boxer needs to go through to check for drugs and other bullshyt. I am not sure what it is going to take or if its too late at this point, but all these individual negotiations are not helping. Hate on UFC all you want, but they have the correct system in place.

I wish boxing came back as a bigger sport, I miss that shyt being talked about by regular folks outside

 

[patscorpio]

classic

 

[The Message]

kids been playing outside less and less in the past 25 years, yet were seeing the best athletes being produced across the board now.

That's really interesting too fam. Do you think it's because you have recruiters coming to the hood and swooping up kids at 13 years old? Keeping a target on them at a young age?

I think its economics too, which took a major dip right around when crack hit. In the 80's, it wasnt strange for a cat to play football, basketball AND baseball (there could be a thread on baseball too). High schools offerred a variety of sports for kids to play. But when urban cities got hit hard economically, summer programs get cut, parks close down, school athletic programs tighten up their budget - Baseball goes, track&field goes, soccer gets cut. All thats left is football and hoop. Options were limited. Then when those BIG contracts in the NBA and NFL popped off - it was over.

 

[mastermind]

this isn't going to happen..

younger athletes are taking up training routines more and more similar to professional athletes.

kids are already doing Sparq and BSF training in middle school...just to have an edge in HS

kids been playing outside less and less in the past 25 years, yet were seeing the best athletes being produced across the board now.

This is the select few who have been taken out that element tho


And I honestly don't think sports are being taught correctly anymore on top of the dwindling athletic pool. Maybe it never was and foreign coaches teach a lot of these sports better?