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Suddenly I understand the hate for the Montreal Canadiens just a bit more.
You know, the Patrick Roy debacle aside...
 

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1) Canada was not 'found and based on multiculturalism'. What history books are you reading?

2) You completely underestimate Quebec nationalism.
Do you think British/English and French culture is the same? Native culture?
All three cultures were at the forefront when Canada became a Country.

Right from the start canada was multicultural, with the meshing of English and French cultures. Just because they weren't visible minorities doesn't make it any less multicultural.

And, I don't underestimate it, I live here in Quebec. I know what these ppl are like.
 

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Suddenly I understand the hate for the Montreal Canadiens just a bit more.
You know, the Patrick Roy debacle aside...
Funny thing though, when the nordiques were here, they were the team of "the nation of Quebec" lol

The canadiens were montreals team, anything east was the nordiques.

But now the canadiens have become that
 

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Funny thing though, when the nordiques were here, they were the team of "the nation of Quebec" lol

The canadiens were montreals team, anything east was the nordiques.

But now the canadiens have become that
I miss the old Nordiques jersey. It was pretty cool.
 

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Suddenly I understand the hate for the Montreal Canadiens just a bit more.
You know, the Patrick Roy debacle aside...

hating the canadiens is part of the canadian dna, along with poutine, loonie chocolates, timmies, and watching coaches corner
 

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They are extremely rude and bigoted, and i agree they do treat non-french speaking people like shyt. However, i have no problem with the french wanting to keep their culture and society distinctively French. Bowing to different ideologies that had nothing to do with creation of your society is cultural suicide. You guys seem to be arguing that white ethnic french have no right to their society, language, culture and history. I say god bless them. No Islamic idealogical subversion in Canada, ever.

French is far from being in danger in Quebec, 80% of all Quebeckers speak French as a first language and lots of English schools are closing due to low enrollment. Outside of Montreal, the Eastern Townships, and the region across the river from Ottawa, you won't hear much English spoken. Despite what the paranoid nationalists think, most ethnics(including Muslims) integrate into Quebec society just fine, every Black/Asian/Muslim/Jew/etc I know is a proud Canadian or Quebecer.
 

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They are extremely rude and bigoted, and i agree they do treat non-french speaking people like shyt. However, i have no problem with the french wanting to keep their culture and society distinctively French. Bowing to different ideologies that had nothing to do with creation of your society is cultural suicide. You guys seem to be arguing that white ethnic french have no right to their society, language, culture and history. I say god bless them. No Islamic idealogical subversion in Canada, ever.
This bans all religous symbols. But anything to side with the historical and current oppressor right? F all minorities if they worship Muhummad right? And yes massa right?


They hate all minorities buddy. Wise Up.

1) Canada was not 'found and based on multiculturalism'. What history books are you reading?

2) You completely underestimate Quebec nationalism.

No, i am Western Canadian.

No but has been law since the 1980's. One that we all have to obey.


Since you're from the west, apparently you pay transfer payments to QC for social programs. Are you okay with that? Probably not. But it's law.


You don't get to pick and choose the rules. They can adhere to the charter or leave

A better question is, what is with your love of the european? I don't consider you a serious human being until you answer this.
 
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The separatists are playing the victim card again :snoop: Apparently anyone who opposes them is "francophobic" :heh:

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/calling-for-an-end-to-quebec-bashing-and-francophobia-1.1586626

Calling for an end to Quebec-bashing and francophobia

Read more: http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/calling-...hing-and-francophobia-1.1586626#ixzz2nJV5Pl00

CTV Montreal
Published Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:47AM EST
Last Updated Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:34PM EST
More than 100 personalities have signed a document calling for an end to francophobia from anglophones and anglophone media.

Citing the attempted attack on Pauline Marois the night she was elected premier, bathroom graffiti, Facebook posts and editorial columns, the Societé Saint Jean Baptiste, Imperatif Francais and the Mouvement Quebec Francais say the linguistic debate in Quebec has degraded in recent years.

As a result it's calling on citizens of Quebec and Canada to "rise up and reject intimidating speech and demand a democratic debate based on respect and dignity."

PHOTOS

United against francophobia -- a new campaign from the SSJB

101 Quebec personalities, including former politicians, entertainers, and social activists have signed the declaration and are calling on others to add their names to the document.

That includes people like former radio host Gilles Proulx, SSJB president Mario Beaulieu, former premier Bernard Landry and rapper Chafik.

One of the signatories is PQ byelection candidate Tania Longpré, who said the Jewish General Hospital should be renamed in a secular Quebec.

The declaration says the linguistic peace of the post-referendum years was marked by an increase in "Quebec bashing" which "sociologists recognize as racism."

It goes on to imply a link between francophobia and the Sept. 4, 2012 shooting at the Metropolis theatre, and says that English Canada has a long history of intimidating defenders of the French language.

"Since the Parti Quebecois began discussing strengthening the Charter of the French Language, the demonization of francophones has gone so far as to associate defenders of the French language as Nazis," reads the statement.

"These accusations create division and create fear and defiance among immigrants and anglophones, and alienate them from Quebec society."

Supporting research

As a supporting document the declaration relies on research done by the SSJB's secretary-general Maxime Laporte, who documents a litany of supposed instances of "Quebec bashing."

The research goes through everything from photos of graffiti, to Facebook posts, to opinion columns in Quebec and across Canada -- all of which denounce the actions of the Parti Quebecois, Pauline Marois, and the current provincial government.

The research says these are all cases of francophobes expressing their fear of the French language and French culture.

The centrefold of the document has a double-wide spread that includes several images of Marois altered to resemble Adolf Hitler.

Text at the bottom of that pages speaks of intolerance against non-francophones, stating, in a loose translation "We give anglophones more school and hospitals than their numbers justify, and we allow them to speak English in the justice system.

"No nation ON THIS PLANET gives so many privileges to its national minority. But for racists who have always wanted to eradicate us, nothing will ever be enough. We have been too nice. It is time for us to wake up."

The research document also justifies the entire 'Pastagate' scandal as a misunderstanding begun when a customer complained to the OQLF after being given an English menu, but was instead turned into an opportunity by English media to bash Quebecers.

Columnists say pro-English does not mean anti-French

Several opinion columnists cited in the document say -- and have said in the past -- that dismissing them as francophobes is nonsense.

Dan Delmar, a CJAD host and frequent commentator in the National Post, was one of the first to write about Pastagate.

Writing on Twitter he said "If I was a francophobe, I would lobby for laws that suppress French in the public sphere."

Gazette writer Don Macpherson has frequently traded jibes with francophone counterparts, especially Journal de Montreal columnist Richard Martineau.

Cited six times in the aforementioned research document for alleged Quebec-bashing in his columns, Macpherson said "I hate to brag, but I'm proud to be attacked by Gilles Proulx and his friends."



Read more: http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/calling-...hing-and-francophobia-1.1586626#ixzz2nJUpM8K3
 
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