The Breakfast Club: A Boogie says “3,000 streams equal one sale now. They changed it to make it harder for us to sale.”

[Sad Bunny]

So drake and 21 really did almost a million first week

THE BOY

Carter 5 did a Milli

 

[Rekkapryde]

EXACTLY. shyt is fugazi as fukk. This whole post is how I feel about it. The music industry is literally the ONLY form of entertainment that does that.

Preach

 

[Rekkapryde]

Not for nothing; Metallica and all those Anti-Napster groups who everyone hated on saw it coming. You use to be able to eat strictly off music alone. That shyt is over.

I mean no shyt.

But they can tour and make a killing.


And now anyone can put their own music out without needing a major label.

 

[maxamusa]

I mean no shyt.

But they can tour and make a killing.


And now anyone can put their own music out without needing a major label.

easier said than done.

I'll never side with the machine. Suits getting fat and artists starving.

Putting out your own music with no major label is not getting you a tour. Thats a fact.

 

[Rekkapryde]

easier said than done.

I'll never side with the machine. Suits getting fat and artists starving.

Putting out your own music with no major label is not getting you a tour. Thats a fact.

well you're also not entitled to become a multimillionaire making music

not siding with the machine either, but with technology comes this. Labels ate for DECADES off artists. at least the artist can still do something, but dem days of making a killing for the label are over and they don't know how to adjust and realize it.

 

[maxamusa]

well you're also not entitled to become a multimillionaire making music

not siding with the machine either, but with technology comes this. Labels ate for DECADES off artists. at least the artist can still do something, but dem days of making a killing for the label are over and they don't know how to adjust and realize it.

entitled? Who said multi-millions anyway? That's their job. That's the craft. They're artists. You think being compensated for your work is somehow a sense of entitlement?

You sure do sound a certain way

I don't want to go back and forth if you are ignorant to the inner workings or just wanna debate. But if you saw what the labels gross I think it would be fair to give them a little bit more on the artists slither.

 

[Ziggiy]

He (and other hiphop artists) seem to turn in music at the last possible minute. He and others probably don't have a good grasp on how much of their music fans will buy so might not be worth it to place vinyl orders and cant sell em

There are plenty of rap artists who DO eat good off Vinyl and physical sales though. I just feel its kind of short sighted to leave that potential revenue stream on the table if your as popular as somebody like Drake is.

Tyler The Creator and Childish Gambino had YEARS OLD albums re-chart at number 1 on billboard when the vinyls released. Kendrick Lamar’s GKMC has been on the Billboard chart for a million years thanks in part to consistently strong vinyl sales.

Nas was number 1 on itunes rap charts (physical sales) for three weeks straight. Smaller acts like Griselda, Curren$y, Roc Marciano, Boldy James, etc have been eating off vinyl and physical merch bundles for YEARS now.



You’re probably right about waiting until the last minute to turn his projects in though

 

[greenvale]

There are plenty of rap artists who DO eat good off Vinyl and physical sales though. I just feel its kind of short sighted to leave that potential revenue stream on the table if your as popular as somebody like Drake is.

Tyler The Creator and Childish Gambino had YEARS OLD albums re-chart at number 1 on billboard when the vinyls released. Kendrick Lamar’s GKMC has been on the Billboard chart for a million years thanks in part to consistently strong vinyl sales.

Nas was number 1 on itunes rap charts (physical sales) for three weeks straight. Smaller acts like Griselda, Curren$y, Roc Marciano, Boldy James, etc have been eating off vinyl and physical merch bundles for YEARS now.



You’re probably right about waiting until the last minute to turn his projects in though

I agree with you. To ME Drake's music is in the moment and doesn't have that much replay value outside of a few singles here and there... thats why I would never buy something physical from him... some of the others you listed, I think they make great projects and I continually run them back.

 

[Surreal]

Told dudes to do like Will Smith selling his book. He did an IG Live and had a link to purchase it

 

[Youngdev]

Lil baby did 200k

Drake and 21 did 400k


Some of these artist selling 20
And 30k wasn’t never gonna do
More than that anyways

 

[ISO]

It's like that because they should stop counting streams as sales in the first place. Streaming should strictly be streaming. Streams shouldn't count towards an album sale because it isn't the same. There shouldn't be a sales equivalent.

They should just make the charts, certifications, and what not reflect streams. Those numbers shouldn't be combined because no matter how many times an album is streamed, it isn't the same as a sale. It's like counting the amount of times someone listened to a song or an album they bought as opposed to tracking how many times the song or album was purchased. Two entirely different things.

Streaming is harder imo.

 

[Elim Garak]

Why is this shyt not time stamped in the year of our lord 2022?

 

[Tribal Outkast]

People need to buy albums Streaming services don’t care though as long as they get that guaranteed 10 bucks a month from you

 

[Insensitive]

easier said than done.

I'll never side with the machine. Suits getting fat and artists starving.

Putting out your own music with no major label is not getting you a tour. Thats a fact.

There's give and take here.
The new platforms have given rise to opportunities for indie artists. They've been able
to develop huge followings build careers completely outside of traditional avenues.

Some people are living off of music with 500,000 followers on Spotify and touring
the country/world, selling merch etc.

Is it still not ideal ? YES but is it WAY better than the past? In several ways YES.

The biggest problem is SO MUCH is put into the artists court.
You have to be both Manager/Business man/woman & Artist.

Booking shows.
Negotiating rates.
Securing Financing.
And so on.

Source: Offline I'm tryna make the same moves.
shyt is DEEP.

 

[maxamusa]

There's give and take here.
The new platforms have given rise to opportunities for indie artists. They've been able
to develop huge followings build careers completely outside of traditional avenues.

Some people are living off of music with 500,000 followers on Spotify and touring
the country/world, selling merch etc.

Is it still not ideal ? YES but is it WAY better than the past? In several ways YES.

The biggest problem is SO MUCH is put into the artists court.
You have to be both Manager/Business man/woman & Artist.

Booking shows.
Negotiating rates.
Securing Financing.
And so on.

Source: Offline I'm tryna make the same moves.
shyt is DEEP.

100%. DM your stuff if you don't mind.

It is a give and take. The problem is today the artist does the heavy lifting and STILL gets crumbs.