The Breakfast Club: A Boogie says “3,000 streams equal one sale now. They changed it to make it harder for us to sale.”

[Chip Skylark]

nikka ask 5 adults where they can go online to buy the music and I bet u 4 out of 5 wont know. They do NOT make it easy to navigate and purchase music and if u say they do your lying. Im not AGAINST streaming music. Im against it being counted as a sale because its a lie. There's no real way to quantify it. It actually doesnt exist. Not all music is available for sale either. For instance. Nas' Magic wasnt available for sale at release. Only streaming. Again the music industry is the ONLY form of entertainment that counts streaming as a sale. There is a REASON for that.

If you’re an adult and can’t google an album to find a physical it sounds like you’re not trying to really buy one. Magic physicals and vinyls didn’t take long to release. I bought one,

Again it’s not hard folks just anti streaming which is crazy cause we’re fans we just want to consume I buy merch and vinyls but the arguments fans make not to like streaming is crazy when you’re not even the one getting paid you just have to listen

 

[maxamusa]

nikka ask 5 adults where they can go online to buy the music and I bet u 4 out of 5 wont know. They do NOT make it easy to navigate and purchase music and if u say they do your lying. Im not AGAINST streaming music. Im against it being counted as a sale because its a lie. There's no real way to quantify it. It actually doesnt exist. Not all music is available for sale either. For instance. Nas' Magic wasnt available for sale at release. Only streaming. Again the music industry is the ONLY form of entertainment that counts streaming as a sale. There is a REASON for that.

so whats the alternative? how is the artist supposed to eat...

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

Must be really new because I'm still eaing off Spotify royalties...

 

[Michael's Black Son]

count a stream as a stream and that's it.

you want a fukking sale then SELL SOMETHING the same way Taylor Swift finesses her fans to cop 20 different versions of the same shyt

 

[Guvnor]

He is making an excuse so people can't judge him for his sales. He has no hits on this album respectfully and dropped the same day as SZA who is going to smoke him.

It's like that because they should stop counting streams as sales in the first place. Streaming should strictly be streaming. Streams shouldn't count towards an album sale because it isn't the same. There shouldn't be a sales equivalent.

They should just make the charts, certifications, and what not reflect streams. Those numbers shouldn't be combined because no matter how many times an album is streamed, it isn't the same as a sale. It's like counting the amount of times someone listened to a song or an album they bought as opposed to tracking how many times the song or album was purchased. Two entirely different things.

Nobody purchases albums anymore so that would ruin the industry and sales would go in the toilet. They just have to some how make the streams make them more money if that makes sense. I believe that is the solution.

 

[Escobar305]

 

[360dagod]

He is making an excuse so people can't judge him for his sales. He has no hits on this album respectfully and dropped the same day as SZA who is going to smoke him.


Nobody purchases albums anymore so that would ruin the industry and sales would go in the toilet. They just have to some how make the streams make them more money if that makes sense. I believe that is the solution.

If I sell 100k of physical copies, there is a paper trail that exists from manufacturing to the actual sale...

There is no real way to audit a stream, so these labels give out a number, meanwhile, they never reveal how much they are making...

 

[Guvnor]

If I sell 100k of physical copies, there is a paper trail that exists from manufacturing to the actual sale...

There is no real way to audit a stream, so these labels give out a number, meanwhile, they never reveal how much they are making...

I get that part, maybe there should be more of a way to audit or to get the exact numbers. However money is being made off the streams and this is there best way of qualifying or accounting for how much money the streams are making at the moment.

It sucks cause it doesn't count as much as an album purchase, however it allows for if people keep streaming the album let's say hypothetically for five years then songs on the album can remain on the charts for years. Versus if people buy the album it counts as one sale per person and that's it.

It can be lucrative in the long haul.

 

[Deltron]

always ben bullshyt...it's such a random ass number every time.

 

[L $ C]

streaming counting as sales honestly makes sense if you make it fair, but it isnt to the artist

 

[Guvnor]

streaming counting as sales honestly makes sense if you make it fair, but it isnt to the artist

It's not, that portion they have to fix for sure. Tidal is the fairest and even they don't pay the artist fairly for their music.

 

[Guvnor]

One thing I also thought about as a benefit of streaming is that it makes the music more accessible globally. In the past people would have to bootleg hiphop in other countries simply cause the cd's or vinyl wasn't as available over there. With streaming it elimnates this and diminishes piracy.

 

[360dagod]

I get that part, maybe there should be more of a way to audit or to get the exact numbers. However money is being made off the streams and this is there best way of qualifying or accounting for how much money the streams are making at the moment.

It sucks cause it doesn't count as much as an album purchase, however it allows for if people keep streaming the album let's say hypothetically for five years then songs on the album can remain on the charts for years. Versus if people buy the album it counts as one sale per person and that's it.

It can be lucrative in the long haul.

Streaming is why alot of these big artists are cashing out imo..

Let's use lil wayne as an example..

His catalog can be streamed so the value of his albums already goes down since a 10$ subscription gives you a "free" copy..

Lil wayne would have to hope at least one of his songs get a big time rebirth to the point where it makes it worth his wild to keep his catalog....

Newer artists who have no choice
Drake
Artists with transcendent records

The only ones who are not affected

 

[Monoblock]

What's a stream?

 

[Guvnor]

Streaming is why alot of these big artists are cashing out imo..

Let's use lil wayne as an example..

His catalog can be streamed so the value of his albums already goes down since a 10$ subscription gives you a "free" copy..

Lil wayne would have to hope at least one of his songs get a big time rebirth to the point where it makes it worth his wild to keep his catalog....

Newer artists who have no choice
Drake
Artists with transcendent records

The only ones who are not affected

Yes and no, you mention people get a free copy but the one 10 dollar purchase is the end all be all for his album sales and that cd or mp3 purchase can be bootlegged and shared which actually hurts his pocket. Versus a stream which while it may equal 0.05 of a dollar or less no matter how many times it's streamed it adds to the artist sales for that song or album.

You are right about an artist like Drake though or certain songs like Mariah Carey's Christmas song which will always reemarge on the chart thanks to streaming. You also have to peep the emergence and growth of tik tock in the world of social media, due to the trends sometimes older music begins picking up steam again as well.