The Breakfast Club: A Boogie says “3,000 streams equal one sale now. They changed it to make it harder for us to sale.”

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Platforms gonna do what they do with their platforms. Look at Elon running Twitter. These artists gotta smarten up. Unplug from the system

Like removing themselves from YouTube and all streaming services?

Atp I would just go the independent route and focus on doin shows

Things aren't goin to change until big artist, ie Drake Taylor Swift, come together and make a big move

Seems like they tried with Tidal, which pays artist the most per stream and best sound quality
 

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All streaming is for is analytical. Physical needs to be reinforced. Sell the albums on usb drives or something. If you want to pay for streaming then cool keep doing it.

It just helps with knowing where you could tour, who’s listening to you through data so you can know what to target. What city to shout out in a bar.
 

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Facts!

Honestly I don’t get the streaming complaints because artists STILL SELL PHYSICALS but no one is buying them.

And to be honest if there were no streaming I’ll be back on zshare or mega upload lol unless you’re someone I like

Exactly streams was the compromise. Hardcore fans will pay for physical releases just to support the artist. And there's a market for vinyl that's lucrative but only make up a small percentage of consumers

If your shyt ain't streaming you just giving up money. The still average listener still ain't gonna pay for it, they gonna bootleg it or not listen at all

Streaming basically capitalize on the listeners laziness. It's easier than bootlegging. Even if you broke or just too cheap to pay $10 a month you can listen for free on youtube. At least the artists get something even if it ain't what it used to be. But you make that go away, bootlegging still easy enough that the audience ain't gonna start buying shyt again
 

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All streaming is for is analytical. Physical needs to be reinforced. Sell the albums on usb drives or something. If you want to pay for streaming then cool keep doing it.

It just helps with knowing where you could tour, who’s listening to you through data so you can know what to target. What city to shout out in a bar.
Streaming is just how people consume music these days; trying to fight consumption methods is a fools battle and why the biz was in the state it was in the mid00s-early 10s. Streaming is the perfect solution to digital piracy. It's never going away.
 

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Like removing themselves from YouTube and all streaming services?

Atp I would just go the independent route and focus on doin shows

Things aren't goin to change until big artist, ie Drake Taylor Swift, come together and make a big move

Seems like they tried with Tidal, which pays artist the most per stream and best sound quality
they too good for band camp?

I do get tired of hearing all this whining sometimes.
 

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Streaming is just how people consume music these days; trying to fight consumption methods is a fools battle and why the biz was in the state it was in the mid00s-early 10s. Streaming is the perfect solution to digital piracy. It's never going away.
Not for companies it’s not just how it’s consumed. Data bruh
 

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I’m not a Drake fan so somebody educate me if i’m wrong but I know that Drake is one of the biggest artists in streaming history but it would seem like he’s leaving money on the table by not pushing Vinyl
He (and other hiphop artists) seem to turn in music at the last possible minute. He and others probably don't have a good grasp on how much of their music fans will buy so might not be worth it to place vinyl orders and cant sell em
 

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To me, no matter how much you stream, it will never equal a sale. How many units were bought is all I care about. Even thou no one buys music anymore unless it's vinyl.
 

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i agree reconfigure the sales charts but streams should count as sales

when you paying a recoccuring fee it should count towards something, i didnt have to pay a fee monthly to play tapes.
But you're technically playing to use the service, and not for the actual content.
 
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