Dr. Narcisse
Veteran
After that 15 yard Gus Edwards run I thought it was a wrap. He was strong enough to shrug off defenders. It was about to be him and Lamar running the ball and then throwing some play action.
Shame.
The 2024 Baltimore Ravens thread
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Shame.
Dr. Narcisse
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MacDonald did give up that silly FG at the end of the half. No idea why they would just let Kelce have the yards to get FG range.
Just getting down 10 psychologically threw them off their game. It shouldnt be that way but it did.
Nino Soprano
Superstar
Yea the way he called the defense in the 1st half was hella soft and weird as fukk. They played shook. 2nd half they woke up
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
By that standard Mike McCarthy is good and his own quarterback wanted him gone for years before the packers finally did the deed
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
Unrelated news but I don’t see a thread for it and I assume most of you are orioles fans. Long overdue. I read today their projected 2024 payroll is lower than the 2000 team’s payroll.
STAN JONES
Fire John Harbaugh
They only got the FG before halftime because of the 2 15 yard penalties on Van Noy and Travis Jones
Chief’s offense literally did nothing after the first 2 drives
McDonald made adjustments on the fly and didn’t wait til halftime
thats what a good coach is supposed to do
STAN JONES
Fire John Harbaugh
Ray wasn’t involved but yeah this incident is well known and the players have talked about alot in the past
him and Ed Reed got into it in front of the whole team and thats basically what started the mutiny
A bunch of the players ended up going behind Harbaugh back to the owner to get Cam Cameron fired and thats when Harbaugh chilled out and we went on to win the superbowl
Of course Harbs was just playing it cool and got every player involved in the mutiny kicked off the team after the superbowl including Ed Reed(still doesn’t sit right with me that he wasn’t a Raven lifer,he earned that right)
He has changed alot over the years
Hes not the a$$hole he used to be and has surprisingly turned into a players coach the last 4 or 5 years
He’s still incompetent tho
STAN JONES
Fire John Harbaugh
I want Bill Belicheck
I’ve never seen any of his teams look unprepared or get outcoached
His problem is he sucks as a GM but that won’t be a problem here cause we have a great GM already
then bring in Josh McDaniels as OC
He just failed spectacularly as a HC again so we wont have to worry about somebody giving him a HC after we have success
I think we could win multiple superbowls over the next 5 years with Beli as our coach
I don’t think we’ll win any if Harbaugh is still here 5 years from now
I feel like that's just a simple stop/gap to hire saban or beli imo. You want to get rid of monken that fast?!
Would have liked to have started these after the Superbowl, but the offseason is here. This is a very early, pre Senior bowl mock draft. I plan to do a minimum of 7 mock drafts at different stages of the pre draft process.
The Ravens are projected to have 8 draft picks. This year appears to be deep at OG, WR, DT and CB. Ironically, the Ravens are expected to need players at each of those positions, to include OT and RB since many are pending free agency. With that said, below is my mock draft.
Pick 30
Kingsley Suamataia - OT BYU
Before his third year, Suamataia appeared on the infamous Bruce Feldman’s Freak List coming in at #3 in college football. He hit 21.5 mph as a freshman at 318 pounds. Now sitting at 6’6, 325 pounds, Suamataia is thought to be able to run a 40 time in the 4.8s and could even play TE or FB in a pinch.
BYU Offensive Coordinator Aaron Roderick has called Suamataia “The most athletic and violent OL he has ever coached.” This is notable since Roderick has coached both first round pick Garett Bolles (92.7% athlete) and fourth round pick Blake Freeland (98.3% athlete).
Add in not allowing a sack as a second year player, and Suamataia has the violence in the run and game and athleticism in the pass game to be a top NFL OT. If it wasn’t for a year with Olu Fashanu and Joe Alt, Suamataia may be a top 5 pick at the position. Get ready to hear his name called very early in the 2024 NFL Draft
Pick 62
Kris Jenkins - DT Michigan
Kris Jenkins from Michigan is catching eyes as a potential NFL draft pick, especially for teams looking for muscle on the defensive line. He's solid against the run, really holding his spot in the B-gap, and his athletic ability stands out. But to climb up in the draft, he needs to boost his pass rush game. As of now, he's shaping up as a Day 2 kind of pick – strong and athletic against the run, but still needs to prove himself more against the pass.
In the trenches, Jenkins' physical strength and athletic prowess are clear. He can take on double-teams and still disrupt plays, a testament to his athleticism and power. But, when it comes to getting after quarterbacks, he's got room to grow. His quickness off the snap and a wider range of moves could really amp up his game. Jenkins isn't the full package just yet, but his combination of raw strength and athletic potential makes him an intriguing prospect for NFL teams looking to beef up their defensive line.
Pick 93
Johnny Wilson - WR Florida State
In another deep WR class, Wilson grades out as a mid-Day 2 target who could rise into early Day 2 range with another good year. He’s in contention for a top-10 WR spot in the 2024 NFL Draft, but his physical profile and role projection are more confined and specific than other receivers.
At 6’7″, 237 pounds, with reported 36″ arms, Wilson is a towering spectacle with dominating size and length. And at that size, he’s an incredibly impressive athlete. He offers quick acceleration off the snap, instant stride elongation, and has the long-strider speed to consistently threaten defenders down the field.
Also threatening is Wilson’s physical profile, both at and after the catch. He can use his frame to box out DBs and his length to supersede all contested threats. He’s a raging bull after the catch with domineering physicality, tenacity, leg churn, and mass — all made more potent by his searing explosiveness out of contact.
As a weapon, Wilson is exciting — and he can be used with versatility, lining up either on the boundary, in the slot, or hugging the line. He also provides additional value as an elite blocking presence. But while Wilson can be easily weaponized, his operational traits draw more uncertainty.
While Wilson is a smart zone separator with good spatial awareness and window IQ, he’s not a natural sinker or an efficient route runner on breaks. His tall, linear makeup largely limits him to hitches, crossers, and vertical concepts. And while much of his production comes down the field, his hand technique can be inconsistent. He consistently leaves his hands too wide at the catch point and can be prone to body catches and drops.
Wilson’s limited route-running projection and his hands dilute an otherwise enthralling 2024 NFL Draft scouting report. But even with his drawbacks, Wilson can be a devastating dual-sided RAC and deep threat for an NFL offense. His physicality simply overwhelms defenders, and he has the true speed and explosiveness to capitalize.
Pick 130
Javon Solomon - OLB Troy
Solomon has the quickness and flexibility to consistently dip and bend around the edge. He’s explosive off the line of scrimmage, showing the quickness that sets blockers back on their heels. His handwork is excellent. He is tough against the run, playing with a firm base when setting the edge and showing the upper-body strength to stack and shed blockers. His spin move is already NFL-caliber, and Solomon displays a very good motor. Short but muscled up and powerful, He is a uniquely built edge rusher who wins with quickness and leverage. He’s an explosive mover, and he shows body control and flexibility as a pass rusher. Solomon can dip and bend around the corner, and he maintains speed while he does. Fails to use his low center of gravity to his advantage to gain leverage. Can improve hand use. Has some limitations. He’s short, and Solomon will have trouble warding off blockers when rushing on the edge. Solomon has to develop a counter move or two in the pass rush, and he needs to make better use of his hands.
Pick 133
Christian Mahogany - OG Boston College
An agile mover who puts his length to good use, using his hands aggressively and landing solid initial punches. Mahogany can move to the second level as a run blocker, with the coordination and balance to hit moving targets. In pass protection, he’s a fire hydrant who plays with a wide base and plenty of core strength. Bursts off the line of scrimmage and has tremendous natural strength and power, able to dominate at the point of attack and wipe out defenders in the run game. When his hand placement is right, Mahogany has the strong grip that allows him to manhandle opponents. He plays with a mean streak and keeps the nastiness going through the whistle. Understands angles and plays with good leverage. He has long arms and heavy hands, using them effectively in pass protection, and he has a strong enough initial punch to get an edge on quick sets. Mahogany does a nice job working with teammates to build the pocket, anchoring against bull rushers and displaying good awareness against stunts and twists. He’s shaky as a pass protector, which is troublesome for the next level. Mahogany often plays too high with an inconsistent kick slide. As a pass protector, Mahogany typically has to quick set and use his powerful hands to win early in the down — he lacks the quickness to consistently mirror as a pass protector. He’ll occasionally stop his feet when delivering a punch, and he doesn’t play with ideal balance when moving back into his set. He’ll often struggle to mirror if he can’t win early on passing plays.
Pick 163
Justin Eboigbe - DT Alabama
Athletic for his size, with light feet and smooth movement skills. Possesses a loose body to redirect momentum, bend and play with leverage. Gets a good initial jump. Usually aggressive and active. Hard worker with toughness. He’s very instinctive when it comes to countering and solid with overall hand usage. He’s flexible enough to bend the edge, and he’s at his best when Eboigbe can use his quickness and change-of-direction abilities to counter back inside.
Eboigbe could be molded to fit as a three-technique, five-technique, or edge rusher at the next level. Eboigbe has the ability to thrive as a versatile pass rusher as well as a run stuffer. A savvy, versatile and instinctive edge rusher who did a little bit of everything, he was especially effective getting to the quarterback. Played with good leverage, even on the nose, despite average bulk. Hustle defender with a good bull rush inside that can close and get home when quarterbacks leave the pocket. While he’s a decent lateral mover, Eboigbe doesn’t show great closing speed when he has to chase in pursuit.
Eboigbe also shows some stiffness when trying to bend the edge, often getting pushed past the pocket — he seems more comfortable countering back inside. Never out of a play, but can get out of control and work himself away from the action.
Pick 225
Cam Hart - CB Norte Dame
Has the fluidity, speed and quick feet to come down and defend slot receivers in man coverage. Hart also does a nice job breaking down in space as a tackler after the catch. Very good athleticism and flexibility. Has plus speed for the position and a second gear with good recovery speed to make up for missed plays. Made Bruce Feldman's Freak's List - ranked #38. He wrote "The 6-2 1/2, 205-pounder from Maryland has remarkable tools, broad-jumping 11-2, vertical-jumping 38 inches and hitting 21.7 mph on the GPS. His power-clean peak output (2490) is also one of the best on the team." Instinctive, adept at reading routes and anticipating throws, and strong in zone coverage. He’s excellent in run support, a physical hitter who could also get a look at safety Flashes some physicality as a hitter. Physical, sheds defenders and works off blocks. Good toughness with recognition skills to fight through traffic and blow up screens. NFL teams are going to test him deep early on, and he’ll also be prone to flags since he’s grabby downfield. Questionable technique and Hart gets lazy with fundamentals, sometimes getting high in his backpedal and will breach the coverage call seeking flashy plays Needs to develop a better understanding of route combinations and better overall vision.
Pick 247
Walker Parks - OT Clemson
Shows good quickness and flexibility on reach blocks, and Parks has enough range to get out as a puller. Fires off the snap quickly, and he shows the flexibility to get out and seal on reach blocks. He’s at his best, however, in the phone booth. He’s a coordinated athlete who can win at the point of attack in the run game, and he can also move to consistently land blocks at the second level. Has the natural power to move defenders at the point of attack. Parks also has the agility and speed to get out in front and land blocks at the second level. He also shows a good understanding of angles when climbing to the second level. As a pass protector, he plays with good balance and holds up against the bull rush. Parks has strong hands and does a nice job gripping and latching on once he has his hands on the pass rusher. Dips shoulder and moves his feet to get outside leverage when needed. Strong and low coming out of his stance, effective in short-yardage situations. A short-area blocker with limited range and doesn't consistently get to the second level. Will play undisciplined at times, especially in space. Lacks a finishing attitude. Often gets too high in his sets, sacrificing some of his power, and Parks doesn’t show great coordination between his upper and lower body when sliding back in pass protection. While he probably fits best as a right tackle, he has an outside chance at surviving on the left side for a team with a power-running attack.
The Ravens are projected to have 8 draft picks. This year appears to be deep at OG, WR, DT and CB. Ironically, the Ravens are expected to need players at each of those positions, to include OT and RB since many are pending free agency. With that said, below is my mock draft.
Pick 30
Kingsley Suamataia - OT BYU
Before his third year, Suamataia appeared on the infamous Bruce Feldman’s Freak List coming in at #3 in college football. He hit 21.5 mph as a freshman at 318 pounds. Now sitting at 6’6, 325 pounds, Suamataia is thought to be able to run a 40 time in the 4.8s and could even play TE or FB in a pinch.
BYU Offensive Coordinator Aaron Roderick has called Suamataia “The most athletic and violent OL he has ever coached.” This is notable since Roderick has coached both first round pick Garett Bolles (92.7% athlete) and fourth round pick Blake Freeland (98.3% athlete).
Add in not allowing a sack as a second year player, and Suamataia has the violence in the run and game and athleticism in the pass game to be a top NFL OT. If it wasn’t for a year with Olu Fashanu and Joe Alt, Suamataia may be a top 5 pick at the position. Get ready to hear his name called very early in the 2024 NFL Draft
Pick 62
Kris Jenkins - DT Michigan
Kris Jenkins from Michigan is catching eyes as a potential NFL draft pick, especially for teams looking for muscle on the defensive line. He's solid against the run, really holding his spot in the B-gap, and his athletic ability stands out. But to climb up in the draft, he needs to boost his pass rush game. As of now, he's shaping up as a Day 2 kind of pick – strong and athletic against the run, but still needs to prove himself more against the pass.
In the trenches, Jenkins' physical strength and athletic prowess are clear. He can take on double-teams and still disrupt plays, a testament to his athleticism and power. But, when it comes to getting after quarterbacks, he's got room to grow. His quickness off the snap and a wider range of moves could really amp up his game. Jenkins isn't the full package just yet, but his combination of raw strength and athletic potential makes him an intriguing prospect for NFL teams looking to beef up their defensive line.
Pick 93
Johnny Wilson - WR Florida State
In another deep WR class, Wilson grades out as a mid-Day 2 target who could rise into early Day 2 range with another good year. He’s in contention for a top-10 WR spot in the 2024 NFL Draft, but his physical profile and role projection are more confined and specific than other receivers.
At 6’7″, 237 pounds, with reported 36″ arms, Wilson is a towering spectacle with dominating size and length. And at that size, he’s an incredibly impressive athlete. He offers quick acceleration off the snap, instant stride elongation, and has the long-strider speed to consistently threaten defenders down the field.
Also threatening is Wilson’s physical profile, both at and after the catch. He can use his frame to box out DBs and his length to supersede all contested threats. He’s a raging bull after the catch with domineering physicality, tenacity, leg churn, and mass — all made more potent by his searing explosiveness out of contact.
As a weapon, Wilson is exciting — and he can be used with versatility, lining up either on the boundary, in the slot, or hugging the line. He also provides additional value as an elite blocking presence. But while Wilson can be easily weaponized, his operational traits draw more uncertainty.
While Wilson is a smart zone separator with good spatial awareness and window IQ, he’s not a natural sinker or an efficient route runner on breaks. His tall, linear makeup largely limits him to hitches, crossers, and vertical concepts. And while much of his production comes down the field, his hand technique can be inconsistent. He consistently leaves his hands too wide at the catch point and can be prone to body catches and drops.
Wilson’s limited route-running projection and his hands dilute an otherwise enthralling 2024 NFL Draft scouting report. But even with his drawbacks, Wilson can be a devastating dual-sided RAC and deep threat for an NFL offense. His physicality simply overwhelms defenders, and he has the true speed and explosiveness to capitalize.
Pick 130
Javon Solomon - OLB Troy
Solomon has the quickness and flexibility to consistently dip and bend around the edge. He’s explosive off the line of scrimmage, showing the quickness that sets blockers back on their heels. His handwork is excellent. He is tough against the run, playing with a firm base when setting the edge and showing the upper-body strength to stack and shed blockers. His spin move is already NFL-caliber, and Solomon displays a very good motor. Short but muscled up and powerful, He is a uniquely built edge rusher who wins with quickness and leverage. He’s an explosive mover, and he shows body control and flexibility as a pass rusher. Solomon can dip and bend around the corner, and he maintains speed while he does. Fails to use his low center of gravity to his advantage to gain leverage. Can improve hand use. Has some limitations. He’s short, and Solomon will have trouble warding off blockers when rushing on the edge. Solomon has to develop a counter move or two in the pass rush, and he needs to make better use of his hands.
Pick 133
Christian Mahogany - OG Boston College
An agile mover who puts his length to good use, using his hands aggressively and landing solid initial punches. Mahogany can move to the second level as a run blocker, with the coordination and balance to hit moving targets. In pass protection, he’s a fire hydrant who plays with a wide base and plenty of core strength. Bursts off the line of scrimmage and has tremendous natural strength and power, able to dominate at the point of attack and wipe out defenders in the run game. When his hand placement is right, Mahogany has the strong grip that allows him to manhandle opponents. He plays with a mean streak and keeps the nastiness going through the whistle. Understands angles and plays with good leverage. He has long arms and heavy hands, using them effectively in pass protection, and he has a strong enough initial punch to get an edge on quick sets. Mahogany does a nice job working with teammates to build the pocket, anchoring against bull rushers and displaying good awareness against stunts and twists. He’s shaky as a pass protector, which is troublesome for the next level. Mahogany often plays too high with an inconsistent kick slide. As a pass protector, Mahogany typically has to quick set and use his powerful hands to win early in the down — he lacks the quickness to consistently mirror as a pass protector. He’ll occasionally stop his feet when delivering a punch, and he doesn’t play with ideal balance when moving back into his set. He’ll often struggle to mirror if he can’t win early on passing plays.
Pick 163
Justin Eboigbe - DT Alabama
Athletic for his size, with light feet and smooth movement skills. Possesses a loose body to redirect momentum, bend and play with leverage. Gets a good initial jump. Usually aggressive and active. Hard worker with toughness. He’s very instinctive when it comes to countering and solid with overall hand usage. He’s flexible enough to bend the edge, and he’s at his best when Eboigbe can use his quickness and change-of-direction abilities to counter back inside.
Eboigbe could be molded to fit as a three-technique, five-technique, or edge rusher at the next level. Eboigbe has the ability to thrive as a versatile pass rusher as well as a run stuffer. A savvy, versatile and instinctive edge rusher who did a little bit of everything, he was especially effective getting to the quarterback. Played with good leverage, even on the nose, despite average bulk. Hustle defender with a good bull rush inside that can close and get home when quarterbacks leave the pocket. While he’s a decent lateral mover, Eboigbe doesn’t show great closing speed when he has to chase in pursuit.
Eboigbe also shows some stiffness when trying to bend the edge, often getting pushed past the pocket — he seems more comfortable countering back inside. Never out of a play, but can get out of control and work himself away from the action.
Pick 225
Cam Hart - CB Norte Dame
Has the fluidity, speed and quick feet to come down and defend slot receivers in man coverage. Hart also does a nice job breaking down in space as a tackler after the catch. Very good athleticism and flexibility. Has plus speed for the position and a second gear with good recovery speed to make up for missed plays. Made Bruce Feldman's Freak's List - ranked #38. He wrote "The 6-2 1/2, 205-pounder from Maryland has remarkable tools, broad-jumping 11-2, vertical-jumping 38 inches and hitting 21.7 mph on the GPS. His power-clean peak output (2490) is also one of the best on the team." Instinctive, adept at reading routes and anticipating throws, and strong in zone coverage. He’s excellent in run support, a physical hitter who could also get a look at safety Flashes some physicality as a hitter. Physical, sheds defenders and works off blocks. Good toughness with recognition skills to fight through traffic and blow up screens. NFL teams are going to test him deep early on, and he’ll also be prone to flags since he’s grabby downfield. Questionable technique and Hart gets lazy with fundamentals, sometimes getting high in his backpedal and will breach the coverage call seeking flashy plays Needs to develop a better understanding of route combinations and better overall vision.
Pick 247
Walker Parks - OT Clemson
Shows good quickness and flexibility on reach blocks, and Parks has enough range to get out as a puller. Fires off the snap quickly, and he shows the flexibility to get out and seal on reach blocks. He’s at his best, however, in the phone booth. He’s a coordinated athlete who can win at the point of attack in the run game, and he can also move to consistently land blocks at the second level. Has the natural power to move defenders at the point of attack. Parks also has the agility and speed to get out in front and land blocks at the second level. He also shows a good understanding of angles when climbing to the second level. As a pass protector, he plays with good balance and holds up against the bull rush. Parks has strong hands and does a nice job gripping and latching on once he has his hands on the pass rusher. Dips shoulder and moves his feet to get outside leverage when needed. Strong and low coming out of his stance, effective in short-yardage situations. A short-area blocker with limited range and doesn't consistently get to the second level. Will play undisciplined at times, especially in space. Lacks a finishing attitude. Often gets too high in his sets, sacrificing some of his power, and Parks doesn’t show great coordination between his upper and lower body when sliding back in pass protection. While he probably fits best as a right tackle, he has an outside chance at surviving on the left side for a team with a power-running attack.
What's the most disappointing post season in Ravens history? 2006/07, 2008/09, 2011/12, 2014/15 or these 2023/24 playoffs? Other?
2006/07 Held Peyton Manning to 5 field goals and if McNair wasn't hurt and could throw more than 20yrds we win and go to AFC Title game.
2008/09 Rookie Flacco throws a late pick to Polamalu in AFC title game.
2011/12 Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff screw up in AFC Title game.
2014/15 defense blows two 14 points leads against Pats in divisional round...even though pats was cheating and refs didn't let our defense match subs.
Obviously this season Mahomes was held to 17 in AFC title game. And well Ravens Offense as a staff, label & a mafukkin crew blew it in AFC title game.
2006/07 Held Peyton Manning to 5 field goals and if McNair wasn't hurt and could throw more than 20yrds we win and go to AFC Title game.
2008/09 Rookie Flacco throws a late pick to Polamalu in AFC title game.
2011/12 Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff screw up in AFC Title game.
2014/15 defense blows two 14 points leads against Pats in divisional round...even though pats was cheating and refs didn't let our defense match subs.
Obviously this season Mahomes was held to 17 in AFC title game. And well Ravens Offense as a staff, label & a mafukkin crew blew it in AFC title game.
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They definitely will never win another Superbowl with Harbaugh. I guess that's a good thing because Biscotti really would never get rid of him.
Monken had a learning experience....thing is Belli probably wouldn't keep him and coach him up. Tradeoff....
Belli from Nap town...and as a colts fan and assistant....and navy guy through his pops would love to come back to Maryland. Plus bill was an early Lamar fan. Him Being Ravens coach I'm sure he wouldn't care about being GM....full circle comeback for him.
