Tariq is going hard pushing this #DontVote campaign

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Having the right to vote doesn't mean anything when neither of the people you vote for give a single fukk about you. You vote for the Democrats you get mass incarceration, crack laws, 3 strikes, and a wave of unanswered murders of unarmed black people. You vote for a Republican and you get Katrina, Reagonimcs, and crack.

Neither groups give a fukk about us, I'm not sure why we don't want to accept that simple reality.

does that mean that we should just say fuk it and not vote?
 

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does that mean that we should just say fuk it and not vote?

It means we need use our vote as a tool. Look at this links:

How Groups Voted in 1976 - Roper Center
How Groups Voted in 1992 - Roper Center
2008 Presidential Election - Roper Center

The last 3 elections where a Democrat won the white house, the black vote was the swing vote. Had we not voted for them, they would not be in office. And even though we are the ones who CONSISTENTLY put these people in office, we get absolutely nothing in return.

It makes zero sense to vote for the Democrats when they have proven to not address any of the needs of black America. As a political strategy, we need to make it be known that we will not vote for the Democratic party until they give concessions SPECIFICALLY to black people. Once they lose the white house, please believe they'll get some act right with the quickness.
 

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Complain about black disenfranchisement but discourage black participation in the political process, bre-

Wait...

Oh shyt...

That's how this nikka makes his money.


This c00n is brilliant.

He's broadening his consumer base.


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What does the bolded mean? Your own country? own institutions?

How do you begin to build a thriving community when you are living in the margins of society and can't vote, can't choose where to live, can't attend public universities, can't access public facilities, denied access to capital....etc.

It's a reason why a large number of black people throughout the Jim Crow era worked as domestic servants, manual laborers or field hands. It's not a coincidence at all.

It's the same reason why a number of African American men work in the fast food industry today. It's also not a coincidence.

Black workers embody the new low-wage economy

Complain about black disenfranchisement but discourage black participation in the political process, bre-

Wait...

Oh shyt...

That's how this nikka makes his money.


This c00n is brilliant.

He's broadening his consumer base.


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You didn't even listen to the podcast did you :francis:
 

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He said vote in your local elections though.

When you vote in the Presidential elections, I am pretty sure you are voting in the local and regional elections on voting day.
So you leave the Presidential part blank? (:jagsfan:smile:

:laughing: I really have to laugh at this bullshyt.
 

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I can't take ya'll seriously when ya'll say some shyt like this. So all these laws were not the best thing for blacks at the time? What planet are ya'll living in?

Title I
Barred unequal application of voter registration requirements.

Title 2
Outlawed discrimination based on race, color, religion or national origin in hotels, motels, restaurants, theaters, and all other public accommodations engaged in interstate commerce; exempted private clubs without defining the term "private"

Title 3
Prohibited state and municipal governments from denying access to public facilities on grounds of race, color, religion or national origin.

Title 4
Encouraged the desegregation of public schools and authorized the U.S. Attorney General to file suits to enforce said act.

Title 5
Expanded the Civil Rights Commission established by the earlier Civil Rights Act of 1957 with additional powers, rules and procedures.

Title 6
Prevents discrimination by government agencies that receive federal funds. If an agency is found in violation of Title VI, that agency may lose its federal funding.
Yet black people still never fully got these rights

:mjlol:
 

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When you vote in the Presidential elections, I am pretty sure you are voting in the local and regional elections on voting day.
So you leave the Presidential part blank? (:jagsfan:smile:

:laughing: I really have to laugh at this bullshyt.

Yeah, I leave a lot of shyt blank all the time. We vote for shyt every year breh.

South Carolina Governors election was last year lol. The Mayor of my hometown election is next year. Hell, I'm going in there this year to vote for a new community center so I can walk to go shoot ball.
 

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It's a messy subject. Democrats somehow always, expect the black vote with no concessions to valid concerns. But to not vote?

fukked up laws get passed and usually they impact black americans especially, like voter ID laws. At some point you do have to be political. What is TN suggesting is the best way forward?

Meanwhile everyone else is buying their influence and getting shyt done for them.
 

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You act like blacks are so far ahead of the curve since Jim Crow. You happy that you can shop in Wal Mart and walking the front door of McDonalds if so thats good.

Reparations of land and resources could have helped out that Capital. Public Universities were free?

We are way better than during Jim Crow. The economic numbers still need to improve, but to argue otherwise is simply not true.

In almost every economic category, blacks have been gaining, but not by enough.Median family income (in inflation-adjusted dollars) is up from $22,000 in 1963 to more than $40,000 today, still just two-thirds of the median for all Americans. Black unemployment remains twice the level of white unemployment, similar to where it was in 1972.

The black poverty rate has dropped from more than 40% in the 1960s to about 27% today; child poverty similarly has dipped from 67% to about 40%. Those numbers still are glaring, however. And the gap in overall wealth is more than 5-to-1 between whites and blacks: The average white household had nearly $800,000 in assets in 2011, compared with $154,000 for blacks.

"The impact of the Civil Rights Act is totally defined by where you are when it starts — economically, geographically, socially," says William Chafe, a civil rights scholar and professor emeritus of history at Duke University. "There was a significant increase in the black middle class ... but it had almost no effect on the 50% who were at the bottom."

When it comes to desegregating schools, the Civil Rights Act fulfilled for African Americans the reward that still remained elusive 10 years after Brown v. Board of Education.

In 1964, just one in four blacks above age 25 had graduated from high school. Today, the number is 85%. The percentage of blacks with a college degree has risen from 4% to more than 21% — but there is much further to go. The rate for whites is 34%.

When the schoolhouse doors did swing open, a population long excluded from neighborhood schools or elite colleges and universities required help. Even today, African Americans have not caught up to whites in educational attainment. The percentage of black college students who graduate hovers around 40%, compared with 62% for whites, 50% for Hispanics and nearly 70% for Asian-Americans, according to Education Department data.

"Class and poverty have largely superseded race as the cause of inequality today, particularly in education," says John Brittain, a University of the District of Columbialaw professor and former chief counsel for the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law. Calling it "de facto" rather than "de jure" segregation, Brittain says, "That is the challenge 40 to 50 years later."

Gary Orfield, a professor and co-director of the Civil Rights Project at UCLA, decried the situation faced by African Americans in a stinging critique of President Obama's second inaugural address last year.

"Most whites believe minorities already have equal opportunity," Orfield said. But "the peak of equity in college access happened back in the 1970s, and there are very large gaps today. The schools of black children have been steadily resegregating ... and have weaker graduation rates, less qualified teachers and weaker educational offerings."

The driving force in civil rights policy today, Orfield said, is the Supreme Court. Although it has upheld the consideration of race to create a diverse student body, its landmark decisions in 1978, 2003 and 2013 have admonished universities for over-emphasizing race. And the justices appear poised this year to approve Michigan's statewide ban on affirmative-action policies, something that seven other states also have, including California and Florida.

The Civil Rights Act was followed by separate laws on voting rights in 1965 and fair housing in 1968 — again, with mixed results.

Blacks' gains at the voting booth have been dramatic. In last year's presidential election, black turnout exceeded that of whites for the first time, according to Census data. And the number of black elected officials has soared from fewer than 1,500 in 1970 to more than 10,500 today.

So much has improved, in fact, that the Supreme Court last June struck down the most powerful tool in the Voting Rights Act to block discrimination at the voting booth. As a result, states such as Texas and North Carolina have moved to reinstate some restrictions.

Progress on housing has been much slower. While the Civil Rights Act opened up public accommodations, the Fair Housing Act of 1968 has failed to markedly raise black home ownership rates, and nearly six in 10 African Americans still live in segregated neighborhoods.

For all those reasons — economic and educational progress coupled with problems still facing black families — rights leaders remain committed to the cause.
 

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:duck: black people voted in record numbers for Obama... i believe he had 97% of the black vote

That did us so much good :francis:
i never said would it do good

i said better or worse


you think we'd have been better off with president romney? :comeon:

or president mccain and vp palin? :comeon:



not voting isn't gonna get us shyt brehs... and it can't possibly gain us a damn thing
 

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WEB Du Bois on voting:

W.E.B. Dubois, I Won't Vote

Since I was twenty-one in 1889, I have in theory followed the voting plan strongly advocated by Sidney Lens in The Nation of August 4, i.e., voting for a third party even when its chances were hopeless, if the main parties were unsatisfactory; or, in absence of a third choice, voting for the lesser of two evils. My action, however, had to be limited by the candidates' attitude toward Negroes. Of my adult life, I have spent twenty-three years living and teaching in the South, where my voting choice was not asked. I was disfranchised by law or administration. In the North I lived in all thirty-two years, covering eight Presidential elections. In 1912 I wanted to support Theodore Roosevelt, but his Bull Moose convention dodged the Negro problem and I tried to help elect Wilson as a liberal Southerner. Under Wilson came the worst attempt at Jim Crow legislation and discrimination in civil service that we had experienced since the Civil War. In 1916 I took Hughes as the lesser of two evils. He promised Negroes nothing and kept his word. In 1920, I supported Harding because of his promise to liberate Haiti. In 1924, I voted for La Follette, although I knew he could not be elected. In 1928, Negroes faced absolute dilemma. Neither Hoover nor Smith wanted the Negro vote and both publicly insulted us. I voted for Norman Thomas and the Socialists, although the Socialists had attempted to Jim Crow Negro members in the South. In 1932 I voted for Franklin Roosevelt, since Hoover was unthinkable and Roosevelt's attitude toward workers most realistic. I was again in the South from 1934 until 1944. Technically I could vote, but the election in which I could vote was a farce. The real election was the White Primary.

Retired "for age" in 1944, I returned to the North and found a party to my liking. In 1948, I voted the Progressive ticket for Henry Wallace and in 1952 for Vincent Hallinan.

In 1956, I shall not go to the polls. I have not registered. I believe that democracy has so far disappeared in the United States that no "two evils" exist. There is but one evil party with two names, and it will be elected despite all I can do or say. There is no third party. On the Presidential ballot in a few states (seventeen in 1952), a "Socialist" Party will appear. Few will hear its appeal because it will have almost no opportunity to take part in the campaign and explain its platform.

Negroes hope to muster 400,000 votes in 1956. Where will they cast them? What have the Republicans done to enforce the education decision of the Supreme Court? What they advertised as fair employment was exactly nothing, and Nixon was just the man to explain it. What has the Administration done to rescue Negro workers, the most impoverished group in the nation, half of whom receive less than half the median wage of the nation, while the nation sends billions abroad to protect oil investments and help employ slave labor in the Union of South Africa and the Rhodesias? Very well, and will the party of Talmadge, Eastland and Ellender do better than the Republicans if the Negroes return them to office?

I have no advice for others in this election. Are you voting Democratic? Well and good; all I ask is why? Are you voting for Eisenhower and his smooth team of bright ghost writers? Again, why? Will your helpless vote either way support or restore democracy to America?

Is the refusal to vote in this phony election a counsel of despair? No, it is dogged hope. It is hope that if twenty-five million voters refrain from voting in 1956 because of their own accord and not because of a sly wink from Khrushchev, this might make the American people ask how much longer this dumb farce can proceed without even a whimper of protest.
 
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