Look at all this star power in a non MCU movie just to flop in 2022. He would have a point if they were cranking out legit competition with these "real movies".
Tarantino Says Marvel actors aren’t movie stars: ‘Captain America Is the Star,’ Not Chris Evans
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Saysumthinfunnymike
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Tom Cruise says hi. Top Gun or mission impossible starring Chris Evans or hemsworth would go double wood
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Also... QT is a bigger star than these actors.. People don't realize his movies have a small or modest budget. They are very profitable.
The average coli poster doesn't realize that profit > gross B.O. Dumbasses
The average coli poster doesn't realize that profit > gross B.O. Dumbasses
dr. pill biden
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i can’t even think of movies benedict cumberbact and scarlet johanssen were in before the MCU and they were legit stars in their own right 
but he’s right…it aint about the actor its about the characters that will be in the movie. just like batman been played by 17 nikkaz. shyt the hulk already been played by 3, 4. there are no movie stars left unless these shytty stars like chris evans stack their bread long enough to stop having to work for money and can start doing their own thing like denzel and bobby deniro
but he’s right…it aint about the actor its about the characters that will be in the movie. just like batman been played by 17 nikkaz. shyt the hulk already been played by 3, 4. there are no movie stars left unless these shytty stars like chris evans stack their bread long enough to stop having to work for money and can start doing their own thing like denzel and bobby deniro
HuhLook at all this star power in a non MCU movie just to flop in 2022. He would have a point if they were cranking out legit competition with these "real movies".
That's not even the point they made
That's not what he's arguing though.
How did Doolittle do?
Have they? And what good is being a household name if they're in a movie outside of MCU and no one gives a fukk about it.
QT's last movie made $377M.
Someone mentioned 21 Bridges not really doing well at the box office, same with Marshall.
It has to be about more than them getting paid more for other roles though.
No one is going to see Chris Evans movies.
Hemsworth isn't putting asses in seats.
Blackhat
The Huntsman
Bad Times at the El Royale
MIB: International with Tessa Thompson
No one cared about those movies.
He would have a point if movies that weren't just "characters" were consistently competing with the MCU. Amsterdam was full of movie stars and someone like Taylor Swift who just broke Ticketmaster. He's acting like "movie stars" means something when it doesn't. It's a whole nothing ass argument.
DatNkkaCutty
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I semi agree...but you can't tell me this dude can't act.....
Michael Fassbender (Magneto) is a GREAT actor, and was stealin scenes, the second he was incorporated into the Marvel universe. Of course Magneto is a revered character/villain, but dudes acting ability, still shined thru. I would say the the same about Robert Downey Jr. Dude is such a good actor, he's become Tony Starks, IRL to some folks. That's not just the character.
I wouldn't say the same can be said, for every character, but there are exceptions to the rule. That aside, I mostly agree wit Tarantino's assessment. Maybe the need to incorporate better actors, into some of these character roles.
Michael Fassbender (Magneto) is a GREAT actor, and was stealin scenes, the second he was incorporated into the Marvel universe. Of course Magneto is a revered character/villain, but dudes acting ability, still shined thru. I would say the the same about Robert Downey Jr. Dude is such a good actor, he's become Tony Starks, IRL to some folks. That's not just the character.
I wouldn't say the same can be said, for every character, but there are exceptions to the rule. That aside, I mostly agree wit Tarantino's assessment. Maybe the need to incorporate better actors, into some of these character roles.
That is his point. He's complaining that the MCU actors are just plug and play and that it's just a system, like a college quarterback being a system QB. Usually systems can only do so well, and truly talented players (in this cast truly talented actors) should be able to shyt all over the MCU and fukk them box offices up. Amsterdam is an example of a movie full of star power and that bytch went brick. Star power doesn't mean shyt. Complaining about well it's the characters not the actors...like well get you some characters and ADJUST TO THE TIMES.
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BigBlackSea
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Actors today are beholden to the IP held by the studios (Captain America) or their self made brand (Dewayne Johnson, Ryan Reynolds, and Chris Pratt playing the same role, Tom Cruise as the "does his own stunts".)
The latter is evolution of the movie star/actor, whereas we had types like Daniel Day-Lewis and Marlon Brando who would pull just off the strength of the diversity of theirvroles in each of their movies, nowadays you know what you going to get when you see a Chris Pratt movie. It's the commidification of Hollywood. In order to pull a profit, you're rewarded for sticking to a formula that had proven valid in the past. No one wants to risk money on an "off the beaten path" project that could bomb and kill the studio. Plus there's the added benefit of film companies having more control over IPs as opposed to actors, especially in the social media age.
The Rock could probably finance his own film and original IP. Tom Cruise basically did it with Top Gun. That arrangement can leave a studio ass out of money, especially if a movie star has a massive social media presence. So it's better to have the IP of Captain America, and just change actors to ensure they have the means to keep using the IP for as long as they want. If you look at how these actors are faring after Marvel, it looks bleak. What was the last movie you can remember that had Tom Holland, Chris Evans, or RDJ.
RDJ did Doolittle, which bombed.
Holland did Uncharted, which I think dud good solely off the principle that it was another established IP.
Evans did some Netflix thing.
We're probably going to see something similar to the music industry owning people masters, where the film industry will own the rights to an actor's likeness and voice.
Actor dies? Recast. Actor goes mask off in racist tirade? Recast? Actor wants more money? Recast.
The latter is evolution of the movie star/actor, whereas we had types like Daniel Day-Lewis and Marlon Brando who would pull just off the strength of the diversity of theirvroles in each of their movies, nowadays you know what you going to get when you see a Chris Pratt movie. It's the commidification of Hollywood. In order to pull a profit, you're rewarded for sticking to a formula that had proven valid in the past. No one wants to risk money on an "off the beaten path" project that could bomb and kill the studio. Plus there's the added benefit of film companies having more control over IPs as opposed to actors, especially in the social media age.
The Rock could probably finance his own film and original IP. Tom Cruise basically did it with Top Gun. That arrangement can leave a studio ass out of money, especially if a movie star has a massive social media presence. So it's better to have the IP of Captain America, and just change actors to ensure they have the means to keep using the IP for as long as they want. If you look at how these actors are faring after Marvel, it looks bleak. What was the last movie you can remember that had Tom Holland, Chris Evans, or RDJ.
RDJ did Doolittle, which bombed.
Holland did Uncharted, which I think dud good solely off the principle that it was another established IP.
Evans did some Netflix thing.
We're probably going to see something similar to the music industry owning people masters, where the film industry will own the rights to an actor's likeness and voice.
Actor dies? Recast. Actor goes mask off in racist tirade? Recast? Actor wants more money? Recast.
Tom Cruise says hi. Top Gun or mission impossible starring Chris Evans or hemsworth would go double wood
Tom Cruise is one of the few box office draws left but even still there’s limits. Top Gun Maverick didn’t dominate the box office just because he was in it.
I think if Chris Evans were to star in a M:I spinoff and it was of comparable quality to the Cruise flicks it would still put up good numbers, no different from the Jeremy Renner Bourne flick
