Tarantino Says Marvel actors aren’t movie stars: ‘Captain America Is the Star,’ Not Chris Evans

[Satsui no Hadou]

Imagine Tarantino directing black widow. Close up shots of Scarlett’s feet for days

 

[Luke Cage]

I agree, but thats a good thing imo. Hate when a story is catered too heavily around the actors and not the characters
Fox made this mistake with Jennifer Lawerance as mystique.

 

[Spence]

Not trying to see Batman as a recovering heron addict who uses the n-word freely and is battling some type of class related prejudice

Cmon now, you know good damn well Bruce Wayne and his parents were

 

[Daio]

Depends

Sam Jackson > Nick Fury
Robert Downy > Ironman
Spiderman > Tom Holland

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

I would appreciate if you spent your Tuesday night explaining why he’s wrong

lmao i was winding down but i think that because these characters have existed for decades and had massive followings of their own before these actors took the roles, so i agree in that case. But even then, the actual actors of the MCU have become household names. The appreciation for the actors of the MCU by the fans is huge, I bet Quentin Tarantino isn't really an internet person or something to think that the actors aren't stars.


I also think that it matches the climate, times are hard right now. People aint in the mood nowadays for some depressing ass Tarantino or Scorsese movie, mfs need hope lmfao. Talks of WW3, uncertain economic climate, uncertain climate in general, mass shootings...a world going through that aint gonna be in the mood to go out in droves to see Tarantino or Scorsese, that's facts.

 

[Tryna Makit]

He sounds like a hater cause he not pulling a billion dollar film.

Yes as a film, as it isnt art...yes it isnt. Its a movie, not cinema....

Its like me hating on realism and hyper realism.

You arent creating real art..you are fukking copying...but hyper realism makes folls froth at the mouth..so I get it....but yes...its still hating.

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“My only axe to grind against them is they’re the only things that seem to be made,” he added. “And they’re the only things that seem to generate any kind of excitement amongst a fan base or even for the studio making them. That’s what they’re excited about. And so it’s just the fact that they are the entire representation of this era of movies right now. There’s not really much room for anything else. That’s my problem.”

I knew it was just Tarantino hating, aww can't get no funding for a new Blaxploitation flick huh Quinton?

Scorsese was mad because his BIG comeback movie with Dinero went to Netflix to die a quiet death and it's seems Tarantino following behind him.

 

[8WON6]

Chris Pratt is actually an interesting case study. He's the closest thing to an MCU-made star with big box office success outside of the MCU, though this success is tied mostly to animated films (which other actors like Will Arnett has made money on) and a franchise that already was a billion dollar franchise (Jurassic Park). Lego actually came out before Guardians, so you could even argue that his first real box office success was outside the MCU.

Passengers was the first real test for Pratt (and Jennifer Lawrence to some extent) to star in an original, non MCU, non animated, non-franchise tie-in blockbuster and it made...decent money, but was considered a disappointment considering it barely broke even because of its production budget. He hasn't attempted anything like that since and doesn't seem like he is in any hurry to with more animated (Garfield, Mario) and MCU projects in the near future.

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“Part of the Marvel-ization of Hollywood is…you have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters,” Tarantino said. “But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Or Thor is the star. I mean, I’m not the first person to say that. I think that’s been said a zillion times…but it’s like, you know, it’s these franchise characters that become a star.”

This is what the topic has been about this entire time. There was no goalpost shift. You just seem to be mad about some other arguments you've had in previous threads, and are hellbent on bringing that into this topic.

again, "all these actors that become famous playing these characters" is bullshyt, because the mcu is full of a-list actors. it's a bullshyt statement that YOU moved the goalposts on when you said "they don't lead". whole argument is some hating bullshyt.

 

[King_Kamala61]

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“My only axe to grind against them is they’re the only things that seem to be made,” he added. “And they’re the only things that seem to generate any kind of excitement amongst a fan base or even for the studio making them. That’s what they’re excited about. And so it’s just the fact that they are the entire representation of this era of movies right now. There’s not really much room for anything else. That’s my problem.”

I knew it was just Tarantino hating, aww can't get no funding for a new Blaxploitation flick huh Quinton?

Scorsese was mad because his BIG comeback movie with Dinero went to Netflix to die a quiet death and it's seems Tarantino following behind him.

Yep. He knows damn well he would love a Luke Cage franchise as he loves the character and would make a blaxploitation marvel film. QT knows this is the wave and he wants to fight it badly and die on his square. I dont blame him...but opening up and commenting on the new sucessful wave in Hollywood is a terrible take.

 

[Formerly known as...]

He isn't wrong

 

[O.Red]

The MCU got all these directors out here talking shyt. I get it but damn they all piling on these superhero movies. Your issue is with Hollywood

Pretty much. MCU is an easy scapegoat and I don't even like their shyt anymore

The truth is if not for Marvel Hollywood would've shut down a decade ago. Shyt was not doing so great

However Tarantino is right but it's not BECAUSE of Marvel. There are no more movie stars for a myriad of cultural reasons

 

[Luke Cage]

He isn't wrong

He isn't. But it isn't a bad thing either. All movies should be about the characters instead of the star power.
What would be the point of the entire indie film genre if its all about stars? I don't miss the movie star driven shyt at all honestly

 

[O.Red]

 

[ExodusNirvana]

If he pulled out another Django or kill Bill sequel/spinoff, it's making bank. Everything he's saying is .

Nah...a Kill Bill or Django sequel is too late now IMO

Anywhoo...make some shyt people want to see and they're going to go see it.

It's really that simple

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Part of the Marvel-ization of Hollywood is…you have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters,” Tarantino said. “But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Or Thor is the star. I mean, I’m not the first person to say that. I think that’s been said a zillion times…but it’s like, you know, it’s these franchise characters that become a star.”

^^^^^this is what the topic is about. Actors that became famous because of the MCU, and whether they are movie stars. No one is taking about Matt Damon cameos.

Young actors are in a tough spot.

If Disney/Marvel comes calling, you'd have a hard time turning the opportunity down....BUT.....once you go down that lane, it's hard to get out of it.

 

[O.Red]

!!!!!!!

Certain actors used to effectively be their own genre of movie.

Adam Sandler at one point basically could have had his own section in a video store. Jim Carrey too.

That hasn't gone away completely. As recently as the mid to late 2010's we had Melissa Mccarthy and Kevin Hart doing as their own movie star comedy genres, but you can clearly see that being phased out as the industry constricts down to franchise films and pre-remake-sequels, where movie stars aren't really needed, except to do voice acting in animated movies (something Kevin Hart is doing a lot of nowadays).

Talent that used to be able to cultivate moderate to high box office followings and become movie "brands", are now basically being regulated to streaming and TV. It makes for good TV content, but you can see how Hollywood purists are letdown by how big screen talent and content is shrinking down to the small screen.

The thing people disregard with the streaming argument is actually demand of the consumer

A lot of shyt being what would've been released in theaters now being on streaming platforms is good for most of those projects because the demand was dying anyway. Kevin Hart movies did numbers on theaters then started dropping when people realized every Kevin Hart movie is exactly the same. Add that with the fact that we're in a recession and it's clear that a Kevin Hart movie in 2022 will get more eyes on Netflix than it will in theaters

Same thing with Scorcese and The Irishman. He got salty and made it about Marvel but the studio didn't give him the budget he wanted because they knew nikkas wasn't going out to see a new Scorcese movie in enough numbers to justify the budget he wanted. It would be like Ghostface being mad that he's not being paid 500k a show

Streaming saved a lot of these nikkas from potential box office embarrassment and gave their projects more of a chance to be seen

The flip side of this is streaming extended the era of prestige TV and we get a lot of actors taking chances and showing more range than they were ever expected to have. Using Kevin Hart again his True Story show was great and a departure from the typical Kevin Hart shyt we're used to